Finally: Steve Mills demoted for his weak role during the past four years

by knicksdefense on July 29, 2008

Today MSG gets a new president, and his name is Scott O’Neal.  O’Neal joins the Knicks from across the Hudson River, where he had been a VP at NBA headquarters in Secaucus, New Jersey.  Mills gets bumped down a couple rungs on the ladder, and pulls an Isiah Thomas by unjustly surviving to live another day in New York, despite the atrocities that have been the MSG teams as of late.

No, it is not full accountability, yet, but at least it is slowly beginning to resemble some form of intelligence.

I give Mr. Dolan a little credit for giving these people so much time to fail, but I give him more credit for finally being able to admit mistakes and make long overdue performance-based changes.

If Walsh and D’Antoni don’t work out down the road, I wonder how much time they will be given to prove they are worthy of New York status.

…maybe 2011?

As far as I know, Walsh still reports only to Dolan, so O’Neal’s recent hiring has little effect on what direction Donnie wants to take the Knicks.

Glen Grunwald, you may be next, buddy.

Someone has to answer for the Zach Randolph trade.

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1 Orange and Blue July 29, 2008 at 9:28 pm

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

RON ARTEST APPEARS TO BE HEADING TO THE HOUSTON ROCKETS!!!!!

Fanatics, Defenders, Fixers…

Breath a sigh of relief!

Peaceman can no longer subject ya’ll to his myriad of Artest to the Knicks scenarios!

LOL!

2 PaulNoize July 29, 2008 at 10:06 pm

WOW!!!

Nice scoop there O & B – here’s what i see….

“The Houston Chronicle reported that the Kings would receive Bobby Jackson, a No. 1 draft pick in 2009 and another player that the newspaper’s source could not identify. The Associated Press, citing anonymous league sources, said that the other player would be rookie forward Donte Greene.”

Dayum…..ummm, is it me or is that a little underwhelming from the Kings side? i like Peaceman will be very disappointed tonight if this holds true. Rockets on the other hand suddenly become a real force to be reckoned with!

3 knicksdefense July 29, 2008 at 10:23 pm

my bad, repost a top-notch post from PaulNoize from the last thread:

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Sup Defenders? It’s been a minute!

I don’t like this trade from the Knicks’ perspective, I was a strident voice urging Balkman to be a steady 15 minute guy off the bench last year. I thought that was appropriate for his skill set, it gave Taz a defined role and I think he would’ve quickly grown by leaps and bounds in terms of self-confidence and chemistry with his teammates instead of merely being a defensive freelancer in gah-bage time. He never got that chance, pining for burn on the bench while stubby-ass Q jacked up bricks. =(

Some thoughts on this trade:

- The Low-IQ thing: This “label” is USUALLY racially-biased. I think the specific charge was that Taz was a poor fit for the “read and react” D’Antoni offense. I wouldn’t expect him to be a primary decision-maker on the floor, so I think this charge is baseless. Was he an extraordinary frontcourt passer? No – but it’s hard to prove much of anything from the bench. i’d love to know who “leaked” this classless quote to the media!

- Character Issue: Balkman was one of the few Knicks singled out last season as a poor practice player. For this reason alone, if it is true, the trade can be justified. I still don’t like it, mainly because there is no publicly-available evidence that Balkman was a loafer in practice. But IF he is/was, then i applaud Walsh for taking one step back in order to take two steps forward. Seven straight losing seasons generally means some tough-ass practices are in order – all year long! Anyone who is NOT thinking on that level should be purged so as not to infect our younger players with bad habits (assuming they aren’t already compromised). Didn’t someone post (was it YOU, KD?) about watching Balkman aimlessly lofting treys during pregame last season? Not exactly a smoking gun, but – perhaps a warning sign? I dunno.

- The Money: A new era of fiscal responsibility seems to be here. Isiah started it last season, and it appears to be real (not fugazy). Maybe Dolan’s pockets are not endlessly deep, maybe Daddy Chuck got fed up, maybe Steve Mills (demoted to sports team ops) is trying to repair his reputation with a tight-fisted fiscal approach – who knows? i do NOT expect to see any buyouts in the future, barring of course any FURTHER bizarro-land actions by Steph or anyone else. We shrug off the payouts to Lenny, Chaney, Jalen, Stevie, JYD, etc – but I bet those names aren’t on the Dolan family Christmas card list anymore. Can’t blame them for trying to get what they pay for from now on – i just hope it doesn’t result in systemic stubborness that ignores the sitrep on the Garden floor.

- There is no Wizard of Oz: I hope this trade puts to bed – permanently – the chatter that Isiah is still in charge as a shadow-GM. It’s possible that Walsh greenlighted this move with this point in mind, as a message to KnicksKnation about a new day being here. Zeke would never have approved this. (”My name is Donnie Walsh and I approve this message.”)

- The Solid: D’Antoni styles this deal like he was merely doing Taz a favor, putting his needs over the team’s (”Renaldo really had no role after we drafted Gallinari, and with the emergence of Wilson Chandler his minutes would be nonexistent,” D’Antoni told The Associated Press. “So it really wasn’t fair to him to keep him in a spot that he wouldn’t play and also gives us an opportunity to clear up a roster spot and move on.”). This is disingenuous – unless he’s being truthful, in which case it is downright idiotic! Knicks fans require ruthless fucking efficiency in rebuilding this team into a championship contender, and that translates into putting the team first. All other considerations should come second. Truthfully though, I am kind of happy that Balkman landed with the Nuggs, it is a nice fit for him running the break with AI & Melo Yellow, they’ll hide his shortcomings well and let him be a roaming disruptive force on defense, which they sorely need. A smallish AI/Smith/Balkman/Melo/Nene lineup would be mobile, active, and kinda bad-ass, especially on the break.

- The Youth Movement: See above – this move can be interpreted as a vote of confidence in Gallinari’s potentialities. Now Gallo gets the “youth” minutes at the three, unless Chandler struggles against the grown-ass men starters (ugh) and forces a veteran Q/JJ platoon (double ugh).

- The Trade Not Made: Other GM’s probably look at taking on Zach’s contract as a net negative proposition for their team. In order to do it, they need to get something (else) in return. Maybe that means cash, or picks, or a player with a positive production per cap dollar ratio like David Lee. Maybe that means NY taking back a ‘bad contract’ like Kenny Thomas’. I think the Clips’ proposal was a tad steep (not by much though), and I cannot knock Walsh for not taking it. However, if I were GM, I would have pitched it to Dolan as a package deal (we dump a ton of salary but in exchange Mr. D – allow me to buy out Marbury and waive him). Not having Zach and Starbury on next year’s squad would have HUGELY REDUCED our “FTAS ratio” (Frowns to Available Shots), and lightened the spirits of everyone else on the roster immensely. It also would have removed a ton of talent, but – ah well, we didn’t do it, so let’s move on.

- Free Agency: Duhon I cannot get too excited about. It’s akin to Freddie Jones, the remix. While we’re collecting castoffs from the Bulls’ backcourt, maybe we should poach Craig Hodges from the Zenmaster’s staff?

- The Handicap: We overpaid for Duhon, sacrificed short-term gain with the Rooster pick, and bet too quickly (rather than checked) with Robberson (who I hope has a better career than Norm Robberson). Now this trade, a poor return for a guy who I think will pan out to be a useful bench player in Denver. Walsh took on a tough job, but I cannot say I’m real happy with the results thus far. Isola says it’ll be at least Oct/Nov before Marbury gets moved, so I will try to reserve judgement until after the trade deadline at mid-season.

Keep the noize TURNED UP!!!

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4 knicksdefense July 29, 2008 at 10:37 pm

PaulNoize, great stuff as always. did you see this quote from Mike D on our already missed Taz?

“Renaldo really had no role after we drafted Gallinari, and with the emergence of Wilson Chandler his minutes would be nonexistent,” D’Antoni told The Associated Press. “So it really wasn’t fair to him to keep him in a spot that he wouldn’t play and also gives us an opportunity to clear up a roster spot and move on.”

seems D’antoni really has Chandler in the plans for this upcoming season, either along side Gallo or if they split 24 a game at the three.

that one game gallinari and chandler played together in the summer league, when they started to both cook at the same time in the second half, that gave me a glimmer of hope, but like you said, regular season is against grown-ass men, different story in the summer league with the baby nba players (with the exception of tractor traylor of course).

By the way, don’t remember if it was me on watching Renaldo shoot threes. I DO remember that when he was out during the open practice last season (remember he had a great summer league but got hurt right before season started) that he was shooting a few threes while he was supposed to be injured, but not sure if that is what you were referring to.

I think renaldo throughout his tenure as a knick liked to get at least one three point shot attempt up per game (usually on the wings it seemed), without actually proving that he could with any consistency ever hit that shot. renaldo right now seems like more of a project than gallinari right now. gallinari already has a skill set that appears to be more complete than renaldo’s.

but like many alluded to here, hustle, energy, rebounds, these are things I will remember Renaldo for as a knick. I think it had more to do with his shooting than any “basketball IQ” issues, but like a defender already mentioned, maybe Herb dropped dime on who was serious last season, and who took 59 losses too lightly.

with Duhon, I can only trust that coach K has shared some knowledge on how to use him effectively with coach d’antoni. time will tell if he’s any better than mardy for our knicks.

just bloggin’

5 PaulNoize July 29, 2008 at 11:54 pm

well KD, the way i see it we have two young threes who are VERY aggressive offensively – and projects defensively. We’ve got battle-tested veterans behind them in Q & Jeffries should they fail, but i think we should approach this season trying to get these young fellas some seasoning via a trial by fire. Give Gallo 8-10 minutes a night and play Chandler til he’s tugging his shorts in the second half.

We’ve got steady pros – not world beaters, but pros – at the other spots, so they’ll adjust to whoever is holding down the three spot.

If our young bucks are getting beat down night-in night-out by grown-ass men, maybe D’Antoni has to adjust by mixing in Q & JJ…..but i think we all hold out reasonable hope that won’t be necessary.

We know Zach, Eddy & DLee will get theirs up front (and give most of it back), and i think Jamal & N8 will be very exciting in an uptempo offense.

How does the broth taste? Depends on our lead chef D’Antoni….i guess we fans will just have to “read and react”. ;)

6 knicksdefense July 30, 2008 at 9:50 am
7 Orange and Blue July 30, 2008 at 12:11 pm

Yo KnicksD

You have any input on whether a fan can catch Danilo out in Italy while he is playing for his National team for the 2012 qualifiers?

8 ed drossman July 30, 2008 at 12:11 pm

Boston went from worst to first and we can’t even make the playoffs. Everyone from the owners on down to the players (with the exception of maybe Lee and Chandler) has done a terrible job. One of Thomas’ jobs should be to take out the garbage. Because he did a terrible job as Knicks gm and coach and if he’s to remain here, he must suffer.

Sorry, but there’s no defending the Knicks right now.

9 saipanknickster July 30, 2008 at 1:28 pm

I also agree the Wilson should get on the job training this upcomiming season as opposed to riding the pine
As a hunch I feel the Mike D’ will eventually want to try Gallo as a 4 in his uptempo game.
If and when Gallo gets the time to get decent minutes I think he will make EC better(b/c his ability to drive and pass) and may also help get spot up shots for JCraw, Na8,Q,Chandler, and even Zach if he’still around

I’m not saying Duhon is all world but I think he wiil be at least serviceable, he’s a smart player, plays within himself, stays with the system, pressures opposing points(one of the most crucial components of Team D) and he looks to hit his teammates with good passes.

Hopefully Weber(coach that is) and this other new cat hired a few days ago will help the young bucks develop and grow

I would like to see us add another glass eater/eraser

10 saipanknickster July 30, 2008 at 1:33 pm

Letter to Donnie Walsh

Re: 2008-09 NY Knicks

It seems you have started with your house cleaning and accountability revamp. Please before too long send Jerome and Starbury on their way to the airport, seaport or highway(one way travel expenses of course!!!)Lastly I am more than sure I am not the first nor the last to offer you this same advice

Welcome back home to NYC

11 PaulNoize July 31, 2008 at 9:37 am

from http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=224618

The Bulls also have discovered some interest in guard Larry Hughes, as long as they’re willing to take a big contract in return. Since the Bulls need to thin out their backcourt, some possibilities could include Portland’s Joe Przybilla, New York’s Jared Jeffries, Dallas’ Erick Dampier or Denver’s Kenyon Martin.

Hmmmm….any chance Reinsdorf, who needs to resign Gordon but has said he will NOT enter luxury tax territory for a non-championship team, would do another deal with NY? The six year $57M offer they have for Ben on the table is about the most they can offer and stay below the luxury threshold, and he has declined it.

How about Jeffries/Malik/our recently acquired 2nd rounder for Hughes? He only has two years remaining on his deal, which works towards the whole clearing cap space mission for 2010. Hughes gives us a bigger two who can (theoretically) defend the taller shooters.

With the open roster spot, maybe we can pick up Patrick Ewing Jr., who is going to Houston in the Artest deal to make the salaries work, and is expected to be waived. It’d be good juju to have a Ewing roaming the Garden. =)

12 Orange and Blue July 31, 2008 at 10:32 am

I’m on board with your suggestion Paulnoize.

We have to many small sg/pg types on this team. Duhon is the closest thing we have to an actual 1, and even he is undersized.

13 PaulNoize July 31, 2008 at 12:37 pm

HAHA Peaceman must be going nuts!

from http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3512419&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

The potential Ron Artest to the Houston Rockets trade may have gotten off on the wrong foot over comments made by Artest’s potential teammate, Yao Ming, about Artest’s stormy past.

A day after the Rockets and Sacramento Kings agreed in principle to a deal sending Artest to Houston for Bobby Jackson, Donte Greene and a first-round draft pick, Yao expressed concerns about team chemistry to the Houston Chronicle and referenced Artest’s involvement in the 2004 brawl with Pistons fans.

“Hopefully, he’s not fighting anymore and going after a guy in the stands,” Yao said, according to the Chronicle.

When asked about those comments, Artest said Yao had bought into “all the propaganda” about him, according to The Sacramento Bee.

“I understand what Yao said, but I’m still ghetto,” Artest said, according to the report. “That’s not going to change. I’m never going to change my culture. Yao has played with a lot of black players, but I don’t think he’s ever played with a black player that really represents his culture as much as I represent my culture. Once Yao Ming gets to know me, he’ll understand what I’m about.

“If you go back to the brawl, that’s a culture issue right there,” Artest added, according to the report. “Somebody was disrespecting me, so he’s got to understand where I’m coming from. People that know me know that Ron Artest never changed.”

The agreed-to deal sending Artest to Houston cannot become official until Aug. 14. And Artest, who has one year remaining on his contract, also said he was looking for a long-term deal from the Rockets, according to the report.

“We’ve still got to make sure there’s still a commitment [from the Rockets],” Artest said, according to the Bee. “That’s the main thing, is to make sure there’s still a commitment. When I speak to the powers-that-be of the Houston Rockets’ organization, we’re going to find out how much they really want me there. We’ll find out. I’m still waiting to find out if this is just a trade or if this is like a long-term commitment-type thing. I haven’t spoken to anybody yet. I’m still waiting.”

That appeared to be a shift in Artest’s outlook from earlier Wednesday, when he told ESPN.com of the trade, “I’ll be a kid in a candy store … I’m going to dance with the stars.”

He also said he’s waiting for a phone call from Yao, according to the Bee.

“I guess once Yao Ming approves [the deal], I’ll be a Houston Rocket,” Artest said, according to the report. “[Yao] probably should’ve called me first. But at the same time, it’s Yao Ming’s team.”

“Whatever Yao Ming wants me to do, I’ll be there. Whatever Tracy McGrady tells me to do, that’s how it’s going to go down. Ultimately, whatever [Rockets] coach Rick Adelman tells me to do is exactly what I’m going to do.”

14 PC July 31, 2008 at 6:51 pm

I love Yao for saying that. That team is going to have some solid perimeter defense next year. If they ever had a point guard that wasn’t a cold streak away from being the NBDL, they would be a Western Conference shoe-in every year.

Just a random thought: remember when Eddy Curry had that TNT interview with John Thompson two years back. Wow, he fell hard from then.

Just one more random thought: I worked with Steve Mills, briefly; he’s a good guy but always seemed a bit clueless

15 Tman August 1, 2008 at 10:29 am

They’re on a roll, watch out!

“DEJA VU DOLANS
CABLEVISION EYES MOVES TO BOOST SAGGING SHARES
By PETER LAURIA, NY Post

Last updated: 7:41 am
August 1, 2008
Posted: 4:14 am
August 1, 2008

Not known as the most altruistic of public company owners, Cablevision’s Dolan family stunned investors yesterday by hinting that they might try for a third time to take the company private, initiate a special dividend or buy back stock to jump-start its stock price.

Already surprised by second-quarter results that exceeded expectations, Cablevision analysts and investors were startled by CEO James Dolan’s remarks that the company’s board was “actively exploring alternatives” to “close the value gap between our operating performance and the market value of our stock.”

Dolan didn’t elaborate on any specific move Cablevision might make, and declined to comment when asked if one option was the long-rumored sale or spinoff of its Rainbow cable network division.

The lack of specifics, coupled with the Dolan family’s well-documented unpredictability (as evidenced by its puzzling $650 million purchase of Newsday) was interpreted by analysts to mean that everything is on the table.

“Dolan’s speech would seem to open the door to all options, including a one-time special dividend, regular dividends, share repurchases, or even another attempt to take the company private,” wrote Sanford Bernstein analyst Craig Moffett in a report.

The CEO’s comments were one reason why Cablevision shares staged their biggest jump in three years, surging 14 percent, or $3.03, to close trading yesterday at $24.28.

Cablevision’s stock climb was also driven by the company continuing to defy cable industry norms by adding rather than losing basic cable subscribers and gaining share in broadband and telephone services.

Net income declined 69 percent to $98.3 million, or 34 cents a share, from $317 million, or $1.10 a share, a year earlier, when the company booked a gain of $190 million on the sale of some regional sports networks. Revenue rose 9 percent to $1.7 billion, and operating cash flow climbed 19 percent to $603 million.

In adding 7,000 new basic cable subscribers and 81,000 new voice customers, Cablevision has effectively neutralized the competitive threat posed by Verizon, according to Moffett.

Propelled by a 22 percent gain in advertising revenue, Cablevision’s Rainbow unit, which recently added the Sundance Channel to its portfolio, increased revenue 15 percent to $240 million.

“Rainbow’s core AMC network is unmistakably on a roll, with its first-ever hit show ‘Mad Men’ rising to cult status and arguably taking the title of the hottest show on television, including broadcast,” Moffett said.

peter.lauria@nypost.com

16 Orange and Blue August 1, 2008 at 11:22 am

The Hawks Sign Randolph Morris and talk about working on his development.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/comments/hawks-sign-free-agent-center-randolph-morris-07-30-2008.html

17 Cooleyhigh August 1, 2008 at 11:23 am

Good Am Defenders!

Wow! Unbelieveable! First and foremost I hope this post finds all of you well!

Interesting comments from Yao regarding Artest. To bring up an incident that happen several years ago and correlate that incident into a question of TEAM Chemistry is quite Moronic. For a big man that has not completed a whole season in quite sometime and always leaves his team in the lerch during the playoffs, his comments are puzzling. McGrady is the leader of that team not Yao. He hasn’t played enough games to lead anyone. He and Luis Scola are talking about chemistry…Talk about ARROGANCE and FOREIGN BIAS…By two “the jury is still out,” players…WOW Thye’ve got some set of BALLS…

Secondly, I’ve read several threads this morning and reading some of these posts are just hilarious, comical, and downright jaded nad void of any BBALL Knowledge. This Knick TEAM has underachieved and was quite dysfunctional last season for a myriad of reasons. The Trial, Coaching, and Script being the three major causes.

Now, If Curry returns to the form of two years ago, if Zach uses he talent for the betterment of the TEAM and use his outside shot properly and shares the ball, as well as Crawford doing the same and putting more enrgy on the defensive end; if Duhon provides floor leadership and pressure D out fornt, and if the young DAWGS, N8, Chanler, Danilo, and Lee, played up to their potential and beyond, and Q and JJEFF provide some additional leadership and stability, why can’t this team compete and possibly succeed.

You can barely name the players beside LEBRON on the CAVS; The Nets are trying to figure it out just like US; Philly has immproved on Paper, but they have a lot of questions to answer regarding chemistry and health issues; Boston is a year older and the treads will start to fall off that wagon quickly, because outside of Perkins and Rando, there is no new wave of GREAT YOUNG talent running through there, and the lost of Posey is huge because of his defensive capabilities and toughness;

Toronto on paper looks good too, but lots of questions to be answerred as well; The Wizards are one injury away from there regular season output. Chicago, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Miami, Charlotte, are all just like us…QUESTIONS ABOUND…Outside of Detroit & Boston, this thing is WIDE OPEN….Does anyone remember what the KNICKS looked like before a GREAT COACH like Riley arrived. Think of the TEAMS and FOUNDATION he left Van Gundy, and once Van Gundy left (A decent coach) this TEAM has been spiraling ever since. Most of these players have had a different coach every year since they’ve been here. That is not a formula for success…

IMHO, I think we have a Good Coach in D’Antoni, who is also honing his skills as coach as an Assistant with the USA TEAM; and I believe his expereince with that talented group will help him as a coach and it should help him get this KNICK team to understand what it takes to play at the very highest level. If I’m a player on the Knicks, I’m asking him What makes Kobe and Lebron different; asking about their work out regimes and approach to game, and practice.

Maybe I’m crazy, or maybe I LIVE by a diffferent Ideology and Philosphy. I believe anything is possible, and I believe a group of misfits can be inspired and transformed into a Diligent, hardworking group that buys into a Collective Vision and Mission and become SUCCESSFUL. ALL OF THAT SPELLS LEADERSHIP TO ME…LEADERSHIP This constant negative vibe is not reality, because that is such a MORBID WAY TO LIVE…Get a F**king GRIP! Oh Ye of Little Faith!

“As A Man Thimnketh, So he is.”

ONE LOVE!

Keep it POPPIN!

18 bokonon August 1, 2008 at 12:31 pm

Cooley,

Spot-on with your Knicks assessment. You have to see what a coach like D’Antoni can do with this bunch before you start throwing the baby out with the bath water. I agree with your post almost completely, so I won’t belabor most of your points.

The loss of Posey, I think will be harder for Boston to compensate for than people realize. It may mean the difference between reaching the Conference Finals and winning the Championship. For the Hornets, now with Posey it may mean a surprise playoff exit for Kobe and the Lakers.

I disagree on Philly though. Barring injuries, they may be the team to beat in the East by the end of the year.

Tman, Nice to hear from you. It’s always something interesting and informative. We haven’t seen enough of the heavy square blocks of wisdom you drop on our minds lately. It’s always educational.

KD, the best blog out there. Nobody does it better. Can’t wait for the season, win lose or draw. Ok probably mostly lose.

19 PaulNoize August 1, 2008 at 12:58 pm

Nice post Cooley, i applaud the positivity. I was in favor of the Zach/Clips trade idea, because i figured we could use the cash & cap savings to offset a Marbury buyout – and to free up two of the bigger ballhogs on the club with their assortment of scowls, media leaks and poor bench camraderie would have done wonders to unite the TEAM in their absence! =)

i must admit though, i have long scorned the “Script” notion because it is poorly defined, and almost always viewed with perfect 20/20 hindsight after the season has played out.

So, if this “Script” is to play a major part in the upcoming season, perhaps you can find some Defenders who would be willing to enlighten the rest of us “on the record” as to how this season will play out in terms of standings, playoff seedings, champions, surprise rookies, referee tendencies, catastrophic injuries, etc?

And of course – how SPECIFICALLY this “Script” (which many on this and other blogs will claim to have seen coming a million miles away ten months from now), how this script will impact the Knicks 2008-09 basketball season?

i just can’t seem to put together that down payment chunk on a crystal ball…..help me out! =)

20 Orange and Blue August 1, 2008 at 4:39 pm

Bring the Noize!

I still contend as brother Cooley does,… that there is a script.

Of course it is not something that can be discerned in the pre season or beginning of a season.

It can be discerned through the course of the season in the hype surrounding certain teams and players, and in the commercial shine given certain franchises over others.

That’s how I won my bet for Knicks tickets against Peaceman in that Celtic Lakers finals!

21 PaulNoize August 1, 2008 at 5:14 pm

O & B -

That’s a script but it’s not predefined….every league – hell every marketing department pumps up and promotes the big sellers. In sports, you have to guess. The Rockets for instance, will surely be plugged early by the NBA marketing department in the first few weeks, due to Yao’s international earning power and the addition of Artest to an already very good team.

But let’s say Yao goes down for the year after a red-hot 18-4 start. It would be natural and understandable for the NBA to drastically curtail their promos featuring the Rockets as true contenders – but under the “script” mentality, shouldn’t Rockets fans perceive this as a predetermined campaign by David Stern which says they should intentionally keep Houston down and promote a big market team (like the Lakers) or maybe a team featuring a white boy (like the Suns or Jazz)?

i appreciate your willingness to exchange good dialogue on this subject, but i don’t see this as a script at all, i see a competent marketing department reacting daily to the realities expressing themselves in an organic fashion on the floor.

Do they attempt to shape the product, perhaps by not focusing highlight reel footage of their less marketable but extremely productive players, like Rip Hamilton for instance? Sure! You promote the products or services – in this case the players – which are most likely to grow the business.

The script is a one line document which says “pump the winners, support the biggest markets (unless they really really suck) and use the most flamboyant, eye-catching imagery available as your primary marketing tool – unless it has the capacity to do more harm than good”.

22 Cooleyhigh August 2, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Good AM Defenders

@Bring the Noize,

Great to see you back in the fold and it is always a pleasure and a privilege to read your posts. You’ve always dropped the Good Stuff and your Vibe has always been been thoughtful and considerate, and who among US could not respect that fact. I see our Fanatic Brethren laid out the Red Carpet for you too and I applaud them for that, because that’s what this is ALL about. Peaceman, African, Stateman, LIVES, BARF, DVJ, O & B, DLT, KD, are true Knick Fans with a little JUICE and a lot RAZZMATAZZ to there game, and they keep it POPPIN and CRACKIN…LOL

Now to the “Proverbial Script.” I am aavid believer that if you want to get to the TRUTH OF THE MATTER regarding Capitalist, you must always FOLLOW THE MONEY…

The General and NBA(Like most Multi-National Corps)adhere to the C.R.E.A.M. (Cash Rules Everything Around Me) PHILOSOPHY (Wu Tang knew what was up), and the Gambling Scandal had to be Silenced or the MASTERS OF THE MEGAPHONES would have certainly detailed and outlined for the buying public an extremely tainted BBALL product. Which ultimately would have afeccted the C.R.E.A.M. The General wasn’t having that, so I believe he set in motion a Plan of Diversion and Deception, using the ABS Trial as a Deal from the Bottom of the Deck ploy to divert attention from the scandal. The General understands the American Public Mindset, and he knows Race, Religion, and Sex are subjects that capture the imgaination of a Dumbed Down American Society…We see it everyday Zeke, Dolan, his Father, and the Knicks organziation agreed to assit the General in diverting attention from a major issue of the proudct’s legtimacy, credibility, and it Leader’s morality and complicity…(Modi wrote a GREAT piece regarding this particular subject and illustrates just how the General went about squelching and burying the stench from the referee gambling escapades).

My Scriptologist Crystal Ball is signaling a Mighty Resurgence in the MECCA for its fledgling NBA Franchise and the Ole Southern Flim Flam of the G.W.H.’S (you might need some seasoning to decipher those initials and the one’s to follow) to the rescue from the Hapless and and Shameful D.A.N. But, if you follow the C.R.E.A.M., you will find the strand of Truth and the Script in the Safety Deposit Box, at the NBA’S Offshore Bank in Maccau…By the way, where did the USA Team just play its exhibition games?…Just a coincidence I guest…The Asian Gambling Mecca…As I always say, “Free your mind, and the rest will follow.”

Bring the Noize, that’s my version of the Script…The Hard Back will be out in a couple of Months…I’m represented by the Ponder Literary Properties…Their the best on the Business…LOL LOL LOL

ONE LOVE DEFENDER NATION!

Keep it POPPIN!

23 Orange and Blue August 2, 2008 at 3:46 pm

Excellent back and forth on “da script” gents.

Paul don’t disagree that the marketing office at the NBA picks up on off season transactions and gauges potential team regular season performance, and as a result focuses its marketing campaign aptly.

However, as Cooley pointed out there is a foul and deep stench that the lil general nka the darth razzmatazz is trying to quash, and that stench has its hand to play in the completion of champiohsip narratives. Favorable officiating, non-calls, drastic changes in applications of the rules, failure to comment on the questionable nature of NBA offciating and its referee induced steroid champs pumped with the juices of the script in play.

Cooley also well alluded to how MSG took it in the pooper for Darth razzmatazz and Thomas fell on the sword only to be engulfed in an invisible saftey net ferreted away from completely having his lunch money jacked from him. Diversion follows disasters.

Bring the Noize Paul!

We gotta get that up at the Fanatics web site.

KnicksD whaddup bruh! Vacation?

Hit us up with some new threads.

24 D L T Knicks August 2, 2008 at 4:10 pm

@O&B/KnicksD

I hate weeks like this,no trade talks,no rumors,nothing.I hope that Walsh is still trying to revamp this roster and trade or release some players.I suggest he start with Marbury,James and Rose. I believe each of them only has 1 year on their contracts which will made them really popular before the february trade deadline.

Marbury will be hard to trade because some team will have to give up 21 million in player contracts to obtain his contract.Also,Walsh will not take back long term deals.He will be released/waived or brought-out…..whatever.

James has no value other an expiring 6.2 million dollars contract.No team wants him.And if he is going to stay in the NBA he will need to prove his worth THIS SEASON,before his contract expires,or no team will sign him ever again.So,he needs playing time……good luck.

Rose does have a little value,as a reserve and locker room leader.An expiring 7.647 million contract too.He doesn’t fit in with this new young,run and gun style.There are not many teams out there willing to spend that kind of money for a undersized back-up center/PF.

All three are hard to trade,and if released they may all get picked up by another for little money.I don’t care about that,just bring in some young talent to develop.

Oh,yea,and trade Collins…..that’s for you O&B :-)

25 George M. August 2, 2008 at 6:18 pm

Wazzuuup Defenders.I believe when M.Camby’s trade moratorium ends we shall see negotiations pick up again with the Clippers.Remember,I said negotiations.I think because Walsh couldn’t strike a deal for Camby with Denver the Clipppers decided to get him so that they could bargain with Walsh again.
Just Bloggin’

26 Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York August 3, 2008 at 10:41 am

Cooley you are freakin’ crazy.

Nothin’ but mad love though. (LOL. LMAO)

I’ll be back.

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