Coach K talking up Duhon as a league leader this season
“I think he’ll flourish,” said Mike Krzyzewski, who coached Duhon for four years at Duke. “My feeling is he’ll be one of the leaders in the league in assists in Mike’s system. That will make everybody better.”
“I think he’s the kind of guy that the New York Knicks always had,” Walsh said. “A guy that just goes out, plays hard, fits in with the team, has a role to play, will defend. Those are the kind of players we’d like to see on this team.”
So Donnie, care to elaborate as to which players you’d like to see leave this team?
I don’t know about you, but to lead the league in assists implies to me that you are a starting point guard.
Read the full Howard Beck written, New York Times article here.
“We Got This”!!! Sat what?? Fun Summer League game to watch. Roberson may be a keeper. Thrill Will is a thrill!!! Da Euro-Balla has skillz!!!! He also is’nt SCARRRRRRED!!!!
Chandler looks good. I think we can lessen our concerns about his knee. Had a lot of spring,speed and confidence. Gallo has heart,brains and ability. Definitely adjusted from tepid first half and had a strong second. Roberson also looks like he is ready for a stint in the league
Nice play by play KnicksD
Vicbit good to see you on both sides of the blogfugee blogosphere!
Let me repost a lil summin summin that occurred to me while I wuz just bloggin on fanatics…
Connect the Dots!
Just speculating really but I read several articles about Lee being aware of his situation as highly coveted trade bait and magic pill to help that Z-Bo contract swallow more pleasantly. I also read somewhere that Eric Gordon announced that he wouldn’t be participating in any further summer league games. That is Eric Gordon the rookie 7th pick from the Los Angeles Clippers?
So while the Knicks and Clippers play a game of poker two names of some prominence in both franchises names appear in reports as Walsh looks to up the anti and avoid trading Z-Bo for a bag of chips.
Is it possible that Eric Gordon may be a player that Donnie Walsh is looking to pry from the Clippers hands?
Why was Mike Dunleavy, he of a weary heart and the gas face fresh of an Elton Brand Philly Sixers style diss, sitting in the stands watching Knicks 2nd and third year players in a meaningless summer league game?
Connect the dots try some conjecture. Me I’d prefer to pry Jordan from the Clippers hands if we are to slip them Clips Lee and Randolph because common sense says the Curry alone will not be able to pick up that rebounding load, and the three’s may get worked against beefier lineups.
Besides we all know we need a shot blocker from the 5 spot, and we need players to replace the rebounding that will be lost with Lee and Randolph’s reportedly imminent departure.
feedback please!
We should try to get Jordan back if we are too lose Lee and Randolph. Curry is not a strong rebounder or shot blocker. We need to make up for the loss of production on the boards from Z-Bo and Lee.
We shold especially work that angle if Robitussin looks like a keeper!
Whose with me on this?
KD
I agree with your Marbury comment, he looks and acts as if he has been told
that he is out by hook or crook and he is playing the good soldier, I’ll bet that Donnie threatned him
KD
I agree with your Marbury comment, he looks and acts as if he has been told
that he is out by hook or crook and he is playing the good soldier, I’ll bet that Donnie threatned him
sorry 4 the repeat Gallo bounced back nicely in the second half look s like he’s got some balls
and is a quick learner
Gallinari is a solid all around basketball player. Love the fact he has an NBA body and isn’t a twig. A huge concern with Europeans is that they will be picked on the defensive end. He’s got the body not to be treated like a schoolgirl…we’ll see
Good AM Defenders!
Well, well, well…Last year while attending the Summer League, it was clear to me and many NBA Execs and BBALL Officianados that WCHANDLER had the prototype NBA physique and the bball skills to be special, and the proof is in the pudding.
Mr. Chandler is a bballer and gamer and obviously a very hard worker. He’s wearing a brace on the injured knee, but the fact that he is playing at all speaks to his grit, heart, and penchant for hard work, which certainly bodes well for this BBaller and the Knicks. This Kid got game…
The Italian Stallion is also a BBALLER Freak with a diverse bball skill set and high bball IQ. Like WCHANDLER, Gallo can play multiple positions, and he will get better defensively. He’s got great anticipation, and when he improves his strength and agility, this team will be able to design a TEAM Defensive scheme that will take advantage of Gallo and WCHANDLER length and athleticism. If we could get an athletic big (Johan Petro, 7″ of the Sonics come to mind)this team could do damage. Lastly, ARoberson a big time player at U of F and teammate of DLEE is a possible keeper, if he illustrates a willingness to defend and drop a few more dimes, he will stick and someone will have to go. AROBE is an Eddie House clone, and we know how fond D’Antoni was and still is of EHOUSE…The youngin just has to bring that FIRE and BURNING DESIRE TO SUCCEED. Consistency will be the key for AROBE…
Balkman is pretty much gone…We have Jeffries, who is bigger, more versatile, and due to his handle could be a bit more offensive in the new scheme, but he’ll never be spectacular. All you want is a steady diet of D and boards, flexibility in terms of line-ups. Talking about trades, I’m no capologist, but I would trade ZBO and DLEE and Balkman to Seattle for CWILCOX and PETRO and a 1st Round Pick in 2010 (some great young bigs will be exiting from the college scene). I’m not just blogging…
Have a peaceful and productive Tuesday Defenders!
ONE LOVE!
Keep it POPPIN!
Cooley keeps it real and poppin’!!!! I like Cooley and OB’s thought processes.
yes based on last nite
Balkman does look like he has brought anything new to the table
One thing though… the coach Phil Webber used to run a player development spot out on the Left Coast w/ Kiki Vandeweghe… so hopefully he can work with some of the young guns and bring their skill levels up a few notches
I read DLee say that he has noticed improvement in his own jimmy since working with coach webber.
many guys on the roster were just utilized incorrectly last year. with development and a consistent system things WILL improve
http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/richardson_080715_vegas.html
next game: tomorrow at 4pm with re-airs at 8 and 10:30…
what happened to the nyc point guard?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jackson/080715
Hey KnicksD
Will you be doing a new thread on the recent game or leave that for a summer league recap.
What’s your thoughts on the Dunleavy sighting during yesterday’s game, and the word out that Gordon will sit out the rest of summer league. Would you prefer Eric Gordon or DeAndre Jordan in a salary cap clearing trade for Z-Bo?
Hit me back with some knowledge!
Hmmmmm. My man Kevin Harewood. What’s up Cuz? I hope you have had a fabsummer. I didn’t get a chance to tell you how much I dug “25 Strong” and the other sounds worth talking about later. Glad to see you have time to leave some missives for our edification.
Hmmmmm. Cooley Dawg. Summer league next year. You, me and whoever else wants to make the trip. It turns out I made up my mind too late this time. The cheap tix are $600 a pop. No will do. But it was certainly a pleasure to hang out with you and Steady at the BSPN on draft night. Missed the rest of the ForceMDS, but we are bound to make it work. The power of the fellowship is strong enough to enhance and prolong life — certainly mine.
Hmmmmm. Steady. I hear you brother. Your voice is change. Drop it somewhere and I’ll follow. I need the challenge.
Hmmmm. PC. I’ll get back to you on the Gallinari dude. He’s got my support. If he turns out not to be all that I am getting on Walsh, not the Kid. I like his gumption and him crossing the mighty ocean to do his thing. But, the quality of his playing future will be decided by his defensive intensity of which there is very little at this moment. I’ll get back to that.
Hmmmm. O&B, you’re the king. I just read a magazine article on Nelson Mandela, who is turning 90, and his words of wisdom about leadership. You are trying to keep the indy thing going by dropping pearls everywhere and I mean everywhere. You need to be recognized for the work.
Hmmmm Vic C. We got this is right. I hope the this we got is right too.
Hmmmm. Shout out to Saipan and Blogzilla. The race of life goes not to the swiftest but to the one that endures to the end.
LINJ,LNY
Thanks for the shout brother
peace to you and yours
May we all have a pleasant evening…
When i saw Gallo wincing on the bench last night
I was thinking the kid may have to sit a few…
for now the media is reporting he may sit out tomm. does anyone think he’ll pull a Willis?(obviously not in the same galaxy in terms of magnitude)
O&B
I think that would be a fair trade for both teams.We give them Lee and Randolph,and they give us DJordan and a 2nd round pick and cash.
Welcome back lives on both sides of our Indy movement!
The Defenders and Fanatics in Nevada for next years summer league sounds like a plan.
Out like a lightning scout.
OBTW DLT
Yeah since “rumors” have Lee possibly going with Z-Bo in any trade to net us some useful and inexpensive longterm assets back east, the Knicks might consider insisting on DeAndre Jordan coming back along with a 2010 1st round pick- if of course that could be navigated.
Actually seems like the Clips are looking to save face, and the Knicks are looking to exit players that will hamper “2010″ or are redundant. Seems like La and NY might work together. But that is just my educated “WHAT” guesse!
O&B,
I think if the Clips add Lee and Randolph to Davis that would jump start their team really fast.If we give up 2 bigs we need at least 1 back in return.Or some third team needs to jump in to satisfy the trade.Let’s get this trade done,we have other issues to deal with…..Dumping Steph,JJames and what to do with MRose.
I just posed the following question to Hahn over at the fix.
REPOST TRANSPOST or whatever
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OBTW
Alan
Good chops on Bermanbury “crunch!”
Listen I have a question which perhaps you or the other Fixers might want to consider.
I love Meep Meep, funny shyt indeed.
But
What will happen with the [ ]‘antoni Ferrari when it hits the bumby road of the Eastern Conference playoffs?
Assuming they get there some time down the near road? Many of the beefed up teams might be Geriatric, then again they might then be hitting their stride- save the Pistons, and Celtics.
If the road runner duped a malnourished coyote how will it fair against a powerful thoroughbred mare?
Then again I like D’antoni’s gumption, Crawford spoke with confidence about the coach’s belief in his coaching abilities, and teh fact that the man loves innovators- hello Michaelangelo- says alot to me that he has that about him. He’ll attempt to dictate the mismatches instead of having them dictated to him. The team being built is a slapp in the face to the sumo tandem East- Garnett and Perkins, O’neal and Bosh, Brand and Dalembert not to mentionthe Pistons the front line heavy Nets etc.
But do you think sending out a bunch of quick threes and 3/4 types might grind down the squad?
It’s just something that ran to my mind recently.
Me I’m looking forward to [ ]‘antoni playing the Michaelangelo style contrarian and taking that too the bank.
Why b/c I want to see the Knicks win a chip in my life time. Something which many an older head has the privilege of knowing.
Out like a scout!
I think its possible to string something together with the Clippers in exchange for Lee and Randolph. Jordan and a 1st might be had by sending to LA some of our redundant players. Collins could back up Davis, Balk could provide the Clipps defense and intangibles.
That should net us a 1 for 2010.
What you think too much or just enough to sweeten the pot?
I heard on 1050 ESPN Radio NY that the Nuggets will be sending Marcus Camby to the Clippers for salary cap relief.
WTF
Still Donny could still work a trade with LA (the Lakers) to get rid of Z-Bo but it might have to include a third team- ala my suggested three way trade with the Kings, Knicks, and Lakers.
Darn!
Maybe that’s too much, maybe not.I can see us pushing Collins in the trade.Once you add Balk,we have got to get more bodies for this year’s roster.LAC doesn’t have much to offer in terms of talent. N8 would be a better back up for Davis.If so, we would need 2 first rounders (2009 & 2010) and Jordan.There’s nothing wrong with a 7-8 players trade.Add Q,Jefferies & James to the talks also.
O&B
You are right Here it is
Well,the Nuggets took the deal we didn’t,
The Clippers on Tuesday agreed to terms on a deal with the Denver Nuggets to acquire center Marcus Camby as their replacement for Elton Brand, according to NBA front-office sources.
Sources told ESPN.com that the Clippers will only have to surrender a future second-round pick to acquire Camby, who is being jettisoned into the Clippers’ salary-cap space vacated by Brand to generate payroll relief for the Nuggets.
Hold up Hold up here is the story originally from hoopsworld.
“Marcus Camby to the Clips?
A source with knowledge of the situation has told HOOPSWORLD the Denver Nuggets and Los Angeles Clippers are discussing a deal which would send center Marcus Camby to the west coast.
With Elton Brand departing for Philadelphia, the Clippers have around $12 million to spend this summer. Since LA is under the salary cap, the Clippers could absorb Camby’s salary without giving Denver anything in return. However, it is expected that if a deal is consummated, the Nuggets would get at least one draft pick in return.
For the Clippers, the deal would give the team a formidable frontline of Chris Kaman and Camby to complement the backcourt play of Baron Davis and rookie Eric Gordon.
The deal would help lessen the Nuggets’ payroll and give the team more financial flexibility moving forward. The 34-year-old Camby is due to make $8 million this season and $7.65 million in the final year of his deal in 2009-10.
The Clippers reportedly had dialogue this weekend about acquiring Zach Randolph from the New York Knicks in a deal that would have accomplished a similar goal for the Knicks.
The source emphasized that no deal has been completed as of yet. Stay tuned to HOOPSWORLD for the latest.”
The Clippers may be trying to induce Walsh to budge and give up Gumbo for nothing.
Can Camby provide post offense? No!
That is what they were trying to replace in Brand. Gumbo does that better than Camby. Kaman can do the shot blocking, and would compliment Gumbo better than a Camby Kaman lineup.
Let’s see what is confirmed over the next several hours before we- including me- jump off the tracks.
If this is so then I still think Gumbo could get sent to LA- the Lakers that is in a multi team.
The fuckin Clipps want to hose us.
Fuck their crappy franchise!
It’s good to see some Knicks basketball, although it is only the Summer League. Watching Chandler was a kissy kissy for a Knicks Defender/Fanatic poisoned with an apple rotting from a 23 win season and cursed with a bad case of the Boston Celtic runs to a championshit. In other words, it woke me up. And so did the play by the latest child prodigy – Danny, as Q called him the other night.
A win is not always a win, but any victory now changes the atmosphere at MSG and provides an opportunity for optimism. Yes, we know that the promise of summer league is but a tease but me likey some good foreplay. (Yeah, yeah. Last summer we got great foreplay before getting funked. I know, I know.)
Gallinari is a little bit of a basketball tease. He piqued my interest. His upside is apparent. It is impossible to judge his ceiling because it depends so much on his opportunities, coaching, teammates and the team’s style of play. But, I agree with the consensus in that this boy can play.
Still, I am a little disappointed. Gallinari was a feel good story, but I did not see anything different than what I saw on the miles of You-tube video. He is an offensive prodigy, but he is currently defensively deficient. It is his defensive liabilities that will prevent him from being an NBA star. (Go on and mention Gilbert “No D” Arenas, a man who has lacks the leadership skills and often the common sense (see his blog) to lead a champion.)
On offense, I stand by my earlier description of him as a “black hole.” Don’t you see the Zach Randolph in is face up game. No he does not do a million jab steps before burrowing into the heart of the defense. Instead he over-dribbles until he can set up his move – kinda like Jamal Crawford. I bet, Danilo will be required to lose the emphasis on that dribble penetration move where his long beautiful first step is followed by a yo-yo crossover dribble that catches the defender off balance and sitting on the back of his heels as Danilo whizzes by. The NBA, not the Summer League version, is too fast and big for that move to work with any consistency. The defense collapses in the paint too quickly for that move to work without a deadly pull up jumper to fall back on. He will not be able to run regularly into the paint without getting called for offensive fouls, at least not unless Stern knights the Rooster in front of the refs before every game. He will not be allowed to run players over, at least not for the first year and a half. Kobe and LeBron lost playoff series, in part, because of their over-reliance on that one-on-one drive from the top of the key move.
Fortunately, Kid Galinari has a sweet shot and a jumper that will remind you of Kevin Garnett and Toni Kukoc. He has a dribble that will remind you of large point forwards like Scottie Pippen. When he learns “his” NBA game and the coaches learn how to use him, he should be proficient and efficient offensively.
A superstar? I still only see a good sixth man on a good team. I lack imagination, I guess.
Tonight I saw nothing defensively from the young kid. He often stood around in the lane for four or more seconds and looked lost as he roamed around the basket. Actually, in his first NBA caliber competition after a couple of practices, that should be expected. However, he demonstrated no “instinct” for defense. That same hunger and intensity that he has with the ball in his hand, he does not show on the other end. Those of you who play ball know what I am talking about. There are ball hogs and there are ball hounds. Gilbert Arenas is a ball hog. David Lee is a ball hound. Renaldo Balkman is a ball hound. He can’t shoot worth diddly, but he has a hunger for the ball. (Zach is a hog of a hound)
By contrast, Gallinari’s drive is turned on when he has the ball. Like most youngsters his victories come with putting the ball in the basket. His retorts to being scored upon don’t come in the form of steals or blocks, but jumpers, forced drives and dunks.
Watch Gallinari when the opposition has the ball. Bad footwork. He is constantly crossing his feet and getting turned sideways while he is getting beat off the dribble. He is slower and unbalanced on defense which should not be the case with such a wide wingspan. He will not stop guys his size and bigger. (Yes, I know: defensive development is likely to be secondary and takes a longer time and will probably take a much longer time under D’Antoni.)
We talk about how resilient he is after being bounced around in the paint, but he does not put any of that ample body on anyone when the opposition shot goes up. The big difference between him and Eddie Curry is that he at least jumps, but he is often out of position or he is not strong enough to hold his position. This is interesting, because we suggest that he will grow and add on bulk but the kind of defense his position and body requires demands more than bulk. It demands a very defensive attitude.
It is foolish to make predictions at this ridiculously early point, but I will dare to be foolish and say that the Knicks will miss David Lee (when traded) for a long while before Gallo is anointed the chosen one. He is hungry but not like David Lee is hungry. Not yet anyway. David Lee knows that in order to stay in the league he has to get to the ball. He is a worker. By contrast, I see Gallinari as the privileged prodigy who does not yet go after the ball, but expects it to come to him. Just ask his Italian teammates who will tell you that they relied on Gallo in crunch time. Everyone knew the ball was going to him and he would make something happen – like Crawford, not MJ.
I want to be wrong and I want Gallinari to succeed as a Knick. No one really knows how he will mature mentally, but he is headed in the right direction. I want Gallinari to develop a fire on both ends of the court like Garnett. Not like Nowitzki. Not like Kukoc. He has the body, but when will he get the mind set? Will he ever be a complete package?
At least he looks like he will help us enjoy the journey to the answer.
Good PM Defenders! I pray all are having a productive and constructive Wednesday!
Up until now I didn’t believe in Ghost, but like most things time and a bit of wisdom can certainly change your persepctive. Glad to see MY Dear Brudder LIVES chime in and drop some KNOWLEDGE and OPINION…I am almost certain our Host with Most has a chair next to a table that is left available for Para-Normal Brudder can squat and eat some of Bernie Mac’s milk and Cookies…LOL
I have been scouring the various spheres this AM and I am blown away by all of the acrimony, anger, disgust, disappointment, and cynicism regarding Walsh not trading ZBO, and towards ZBO, Isiah, and I’m hopeful none of this folks handle my financial portfoio, if so, I’m in a helluva of a lot of trouble…LOL LOL
Paitences, patiences, and more patiences…No intelligent person trades an asset and recieves less than the asset is worth. Only a fool would that in their personal life, and the same can be said in the world of business. Secondly, I read on one blog where ZBO game is not suited for the system. I’ve said it before and i will say it again, it is quite obvious, many who posts have not played ball in the environs that propel BBALLcareers, cuase some of the thinking is downright ludicrous and farcical. Now I am a true believer in Prior Proper Planning beats Piss Poor Performance. But, living 2010 is so ridiculous, because so many things can happen between now and then. Careers, Conutries, Events, LIVES, change daily and putting all your eggs in any one basket is foolish and could bear very little fruit….
YOU LIVE IN THE MOMENT! We are one or two pieces away at making a run at this thing and despite are poor play over the last two years, we will be one of the few teams in the Eastern Conference that will bring back a core of players that are familiar (Boston, Wizards, Orlando, and Cleveland at the others as it stands at this moment) and I think that is truly a plus for us for this reason. Our new style of play excites real BBALERS. Some OPTIMISM ALONG WITH SOME DISCIPLINE FROM THE COACH could make all of the difference….
Adding the right pieces are important than getting rid of pieces. We’ve added to good solid pieces in Gallo and Duhon, and I willing to Walsh the benefit of the doubt that he will find thwe other pieces we need in due time and at the proper time…
ONE LOVE DEFENDERS!
Keep it POPPIN!
Lives! Welcome back dude, cosign on if they move D Lee they will miss him. When I think of all the knicks who might get a rebound and throw a connecting 70-ft outlet pass, i’d just like to see D lee in D’antoni’s system before making any predictions on whether D’antoni likes Lee enough to keep him
But as the season ended I realized it might have been lee’s last. he’s a solid player with a modest contract. how many guys can we say that about currently?
I don’t know who the knicks are going to keep, but like you, I know who they would miss.
Great analysis of Gallinari’s first game in a knicks jersey (well, sort of, summer league…). looking forward to seeing more from this guy, they say alot of defense is attitude, this guy seems to be a competitor, so maybe what he doesn’t already know he can learn on the fly, and if not, better make sure we outscore our opponents
Zach should be given away…for all his worth, i’ll take lebron any other day.
One of My Favorite Hot Boyz! All of the Force MD’S have MADD respect for your game and Dig your Flow Fellow Defender. Glad to see you peeked through the back door and great to know you are still committed with it…
We’ve got to get you down to the capital city so you can swing with the Brudders some call Big Chips…We be rolling on Cruise Control and the flow be A+, cause everybody Got Game…Plus, for US, it is all about keeping it REAL. Post-Up-Prince, as long as your eternal KNICK FLAME is lit, We’re ALL GOOD!