Tonight we find out where exactly the New York Knicks will pick in the 2008 NBA draft lottery this June. Again, we’ll be somewhere from 1-3 or 5-8, depending on the luck of the draw.
Let’s go Knicks!
Time to bring back some basketball magic to Madison Square Garden.
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The Knicks are rumored to be sending Mike D’Antoni while Realgm has the Nets sending Jay-Z to Secaucus today for the drawing.
draft day hype:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/20/sports/basketball/20draft.html?ref=basketball
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/05/19/2008-05-19_knicks_cast_lot_in_draft_lottery.html
http://www.amny.com/sports/am-knicks0520,0,5817498.story
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=LotteryPreview-080520
Kurt Thomas will probably have a ring. I guess Knicks have to leave New York to get the coveted jewelry.
I did a post on that phenomenon a while ago. “which ex-Knick will be the next to get a ring”
also Ime Udoka is on that same team.
I doubt Boston’s Doc Rivers counts cause he’s not suiting up.
Any other former Knicks still in it?
The answer to that is Trevor Ariza but not really cause he isn’t playing.
Oh yeah hozabout…
Antonio Mcdyess!
However, I think the Pistons have become the Atlanta Braves and Buffalo Bills of the NBA
Always the bridesmaid, never…
good memeory O&B! far better than my own.
Trevor and Dyess indeed.
Trevor might play soon I thought I read somewhere.
What is really impressive to me about the lakers is, they’ve been successful without Trevor and Bynum and for a while during the regular season without Gasol, so they’ve got their mojo working on all cylinders coming into the Spurs series.
may the best team win.
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Defenders,
If we happen to draft in the 3 – 6 position, who should be select?
Should we draft need? ie: pg, pf…..or should be draft “best player available”??
If we should wind up in that position, I would go with Love or Bayliss, or perhaps Gordon.
I’d stay clear away from the “Mayo”….he appears to be Steph on steroids….in all ways.
BX I believe you watched quite a few college games this season so if we’re 3-6, with the exception of #4, which is mathematically impossible for the Knicks to draw this season, I’d go along with your scouting of Kevin Love. Eric Gordon, Bayless, those guys are interesting players too. Of course, no matter who we’re able to get, there will be many other moves made over the next three years to get this team back to snuff.
If the Knicks didn’t have Bad Luck…
They’d have no luck at all.
See:
Ewing’s Wrist and Achilles;
Antonio Mcdyess’s Knee cap;
Doc Rivers ACL MCL etc;
Allen Houston’s Arthoscopic Knee Surgeries and failed comeback attempt;
Bernanrd Kings ACL MCL etc, etc;
Mardy Collin’s off season Knee surgery;
Wilson Chanler’s Knee Sprain;
Ronaldo Balkman’s hairline fracture;
Eddy Curry’s rotator cuff tear, and recent knee problems;
The bone spurs on Stephon Marbury’s ankle and head.
The bone spurs in Jim Dolan’s Brain!
Bronxboy
Agreed on OJ Mayo
The Franchise needs to steer clear of bad PR, and headcases.
We need players with characters in its positive sense not characters who feed the tabloid press.
yo–what you bringin’ up bad luck for right now O&B???
focus on the positive dude!
heeeerrreee we gooooo……………..
once upon a time not long ago….
D’antoni in the house…
sixth!!!
bulls probably won it.
sux.
this is terrible luck isiah has cursed the knicks for the next 100 years
jordan’s bulls still beating us after all these years.
Does anybody have information on should KNicks take Bayliss or Gordon kid from Indiana? What is the report on both?
david stern didn’t pull thru for us, hope donaghue makes his life miserable
Sorry about the bad luck spiel
I was trying to work the reverse mojo!
To no avail.
What do we do with the 6th overall pick?
We’re snake bitten….hell, we lost ground.
Sixth.
O & B…
Best available player….Bayless or Love..
we would have had seattle’s pick if we didn’t go on that three game win streak that pissed me off at the end.
agree with bx bayless or love.
unless we trade up.
Kevin Harewood:
check out nbadraft.net for player profiles, sometimes they have links to youtube highlight reels too.
http://nbadraft.net/
It just dawned on me.
The Celtics a Dynasty of the distant past twice over got unluck then lucky due to some questionable trades that were allowed to go through.
The Bulls a Dynasty of the recent past, got lucky tonight and will either go after Rose or Beasley, most likely Rose, when a year ago they fell short of landing a superstar deal for Kobe Jordan.
Like I said the sun hasn’t shined on this dogs ass in decades
over 35 years and counting.
What a terrible situation.
Heat still win.
Knicks lose again, unless the braintrust gets the pick just right or packages its players for future number one draft pick in next years draft. Who knows maybe some team feeling its oats and on the cuff of meaningful playoff action might do the trade.
However it goes, the Knicks Braintrust better get this one right.
Did anyone see the way D’antoni winced when he heard the Knicks were picking 6th.
Ouch!
I doubt bayless will be there at 6 probably love but I don’t think he’s worth a 6th pick
If there is no player that can have an immediate impact at a need position on the Knicks roster, then would it makes sense to trade our 6th round draft pick for a quality role player or semi star that would fit D’antoni’s system along with a future number first round pick? We could try package the 6th pick with one of our oath contracts to clear cap space quicker if there are no players who fit the bill of filing need?
@ Banpeace..
If Bayless is gone and u don’t think we should select Love, we need a true pg….
Augustine perhaps???
Keep in mind….Love = Unseld.
You don’t think we can use that???
my idea is we should pick up a kid that can shoot 3s, we have marbury to run the point in his potential career year. I’m thinking maybe gordon he seems to be the best player left at 6, your thoughts guys?
hey we still got the best coach out of the 14 teams in the lottery.
i wonder if d’antoni isn’t a little mad at himself for not signing on with the bulls.
stern may not have fixed the lottery but that doesn’t mean he’s not corrupt.
lebron in 2010 is what i’m looking forward to.
we’re not going to have another pick this high because walsh and d’antoni are a winning combination that will turn this ship around.
it may take a few seasons but it won’t take 4+ years this time around.
new management.
new coach.
new players.
new results.
the next thing we have to look forward to is the GM hiring or the Orlando pre-draft workouts.
check out draftexpress for those near the end of june.
maybe mayo might drop to 6 with all that stuff going on
if d’antoni wants to go euro he won’t waste any time:
http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/danilogallinari.html
According to Draftexpress, Love won’t even be around by the sixth pick. Mayo may just fall into our laps.
This is a kid that stayed in third gear as a college freshman…you can see he had another 2-3 gears.
If his head is right, he’s a star in the making…the kid is that talented.
I like Gordon at six. He was arguably more impressive than Rose, Mayo, and Bayless to start the season before IU and himself started to slow down.
Then again I would be open to trading down to get rid of a bad contract. Addition through subtraction.
We didn’t have bad luck today, we just didn’t have good luck.
We had a 38.5% chance of getting the 6th pick, and that’s what we got.
We only had a 26.2% chance of the 5th pick, and for all the remaining possibilities, the odds were worse.
The thing is, Chicago only had a 1.7% chance of securing that first pick. We had almost 5 times better odds of getting that first pick, but it didn’t happen.
“best case: turkoglu
worse case: mike dunleavy jr”
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Danilo-Gallinari-535/
KnicksD
What are your thoughts on OJ Mayo?
I but down my reservations about the kid in a prior post.
What should we do with the pick?
Could we trade it and draft up and dump a bad salary in return?
Would that make sense?
Or does it all depend on whose available?
I have no idea what we should do O&B. I didn’t follow mayo much this year to be honest. All I know is, the player that we draft has to be a shooter, no more of this picking people on their athleticism instead of their ability to play fundamental basketball. D’antoni wants shooters, and that’s bad news for D Lee, Balkman, Mardy Collins, Randolph Morris, Malik Rose, Jared Jeffries and Jerome James to name a few.
I think we can make a solid pick but do you want the mastermind behind the Z-bo trade doing all your draft research for you? Right now Grunwald is the guy that will have Walsh’s ear.
This is obviously a very important pick for us. David Stern is an ass for not helping out the Knicks while all the other major market teams have the benefit of either being rebuilt or already having all-stars on their team.
There are enough great basketball players in the world for there to be AT LEAST another league in the US market, but the NBA is like Microsoft, they want to eliminate the competition. its a shame because there are a lot of basketball fans out there that don’t follow the NBA any more instead they just follow NCAA, because of the some of the bloated NBA contracts and attitudes (look no further than the Knicks). a more grassroots league might be something I’d follow if it had a chance to exist.
…the draft is seriously jacked up. we suffered much much more than chicago did this past season.
the three game win streak came back to hurt us pretty badly.
I agree with you on all points listed.
My hope is that Jerryd Bayless is somehow still around.
Here is a link to the little spiel on him in the ESPN mock draft should we pick 6th as we did.
He seems to fit D’antoni’s style, is about Rose’s size a better shooter. Also a very quick player whose biggest gripe against is that he might be a tweener. But I wonder if that label is the result of him having to do alot of scoring for his Arizona squad while in college.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/lottery2008/mockdraft
Personally I think the NBA is a corrupt league orchastrated by a control freak Commissioner who sets a double standard that only serves to support his script.
Boston will be in the Finals mark my words.
Sadly the Pistons will likely be bride’s maids again.
That’s the sad truth of the NBA the script is always written ahead of time, if your going to be crooked David Stern you ought to help the team in the leagues major market from time to time.
Anyone know anything about Russell Westbrook?
Would he fit in D’antoni’s system?
@ O & B, re: Westbrook…
Yes and yes…he’s gonna be the steal of the draft.
for what it is worth, realgm has a link to an article today that Mo Cheeks’s sixers may be interested in acquiring Zach Randolph from the Knicks.
KnicksD..
Shyt, that’s worth alot!!! It’ll do us alot of good to rid ourselves of that albatross of a contract.
Mock Draft from ESPN based on tonights results.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-080520
Seems that we may have a shot at Westbrook and or Bayless.
Both seem to fit D’antoni’s system.
Great news if the Knicks organization can swing a deal to get rid of Z-Bo.
We lose an albatross contract that does not fit with the incoming regime.
Is there anyway we can negotiate a second rounder out of any possible trades with teh Sixers either in this years or next years draft?
Bayless is the far more attractive player, but we really need what Westbrook brings to the table.
Both would help, but Westbrook would pay immediate dividends. Besides, if Steph’s head is on right, we could pick up a serviceable pg via free agency or the draft next year….unless we could work out a deal that would net us a late first/early second rounders, which could either get us Ty Lawson, Mario Chalmers, or Darren Collison..all solid pgs.
More Draft Previews
This one has some SF prospect footage.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=DraftWatch-080520&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fdraft2008%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dford_chad%26page%3dDraftWatch-080520