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Kurt Thomas will probably have a ring. I guess Knicks have to leave New York to get the coveted jewelry.

By ed drossman on May 20, 2008

The answer to that is Trevor Ariza but not really cause he isn’t playing.

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

Oh yeah hozabout…

Antonio Mcdyess!

However, I think the Pistons have become the Atlanta Braves and Buffalo Bills of the NBA

Always the bridesmaid, never…

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

Defenders,

If we happen to draft in the 3 - 6 position, who should be select?

Should we draft need? ie: pg, pf…..or should be draft “best player available”??

If we should wind up in that position, I would go with Love or Bayliss, or perhaps Gordon.

I’d stay clear away from the “Mayo”….he appears to be Steph on steroids….in all ways.

By Bronxboy in Md on May 20, 2008

If the Knicks didn’t have Bad Luck…

They’d have no luck at all.

See:

Ewing’s Wrist and Achilles;
Antonio Mcdyess’s Knee cap;
Doc Rivers ACL MCL etc;
Allen Houston’s Arthoscopic Knee Surgeries and failed comeback attempt;
Bernanrd Kings ACL MCL etc, etc;
Mardy Collin’s off season Knee surgery;
Wilson Chanler’s Knee Sprain;
Ronaldo Balkman’s hairline fracture;
Eddy Curry’s rotator cuff tear, and recent knee problems;
The bone spurs on Stephon Marbury’s ankle and head.
The bone spurs in Jim Dolan’s Brain!

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

Bronxboy

Agreed on OJ Mayo

The Franchise needs to steer clear of bad PR, and headcases.

We need players with characters in its positive sense not characters who feed the tabloid press.

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

this is terrible luck isiah has cursed the knicks for the next 100 years

By banpeaceman on May 20, 2008

Does anybody have information on should KNicks take Bayliss or Gordon kid from Indiana? What is the report on both?

By Kevin Harewood on May 20, 2008

david stern didn’t pull thru for us, hope donaghue makes his life miserable

By banpeaceman on May 20, 2008

Sorry about the bad luck spiel

I was trying to work the reverse mojo!

To no avail.

What do we do with the 6th overall pick?

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

We’re snake bitten….hell, we lost ground.

Sixth.

By Bronxboy in Md on May 20, 2008

O & B…

Best available player….Bayless or Love..

By Bronxboy in Md on May 20, 2008

It just dawned on me.

The Celtics a Dynasty of the distant past twice over got unluck then lucky due to some questionable trades that were allowed to go through.

The Bulls a Dynasty of the recent past, got lucky tonight and will either go after Rose or Beasley, most likely Rose, when a year ago they fell short of landing a superstar deal for Kobe Jordan.

Like I said the sun hasn’t shined on this dogs ass in decades

over 35 years and counting.

What a terrible situation.

Heat still win.

Knicks lose again, unless the braintrust gets the pick just right or packages its players for future number one draft pick in next years draft. Who knows maybe some team feeling its oats and on the cuff of meaningful playoff action might do the trade.

However it goes, the Knicks Braintrust better get this one right.

Did anyone see the way D’antoni winced when he heard the Knicks were picking 6th.

Ouch!

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

I doubt bayless will be there at 6 probably love but I don’t think he’s worth a 6th pick

By banpeaceman on May 20, 2008

If there is no player that can have an immediate impact at a need position on the Knicks roster, then would it makes sense to trade our 6th round draft pick for a quality role player or semi star that would fit D’antoni’s system along with a future number first round pick? We could try package the 6th pick with one of our oath contracts to clear cap space quicker if there are no players who fit the bill of filing need?

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

@ Banpeace..

If Bayless is gone and u don’t think we should select Love, we need a true pg….

Augustine perhaps???

Keep in mind….Love = Unseld.

You don’t think we can use that???

By Bronxboy in Md on May 20, 2008

my idea is we should pick up a kid that can shoot 3s, we have marbury to run the point in his potential career year. I’m thinking maybe gordon he seems to be the best player left at 6, your thoughts guys?

By banpeaceman on May 20, 2008

maybe mayo might drop to 6 with all that stuff going on

By banpeaceman on May 20, 2008

According to Draftexpress, Love won’t even be around by the sixth pick. Mayo may just fall into our laps.

This is a kid that stayed in third gear as a college freshman…you can see he had another 2-3 gears.

If his head is right, he’s a star in the making…the kid is that talented.

By Bronxboy in Md on May 20, 2008

I like Gordon at six. He was arguably more impressive than Rose, Mayo, and Bayless to start the season before IU and himself started to slow down.

Then again I would be open to trading down to get rid of a bad contract. Addition through subtraction.

By Saku 39 on May 20, 2008

KnicksD

What are your thoughts on OJ Mayo?

I but down my reservations about the kid in a prior post.

What should we do with the pick?

Could we trade it and draft up and dump a bad salary in return?

Would that make sense?

Or does it all depend on whose available?

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

I agree with you on all points listed.

My hope is that Jerryd Bayless is somehow still around.

Here is a link to the little spiel on him in the ESPN mock draft should we pick 6th as we did.

He seems to fit D’antoni’s style, is about Rose’s size a better shooter. Also a very quick player whose biggest gripe against is that he might be a tweener. But I wonder if that label is the result of him having to do alot of scoring for his Arizona squad while in college.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/lottery2008/mockdraft

Personally I think the NBA is a corrupt league orchastrated by a control freak Commissioner who sets a double standard that only serves to support his script.

Boston will be in the Finals mark my words.

Sadly the Pistons will likely be bride’s maids again.

That’s the sad truth of the NBA the script is always written ahead of time, if your going to be crooked David Stern you ought to help the team in the leagues major market from time to time.

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

Anyone know anything about Russell Westbrook?

Would he fit in D’antoni’s system?

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

@ O & B, re: Westbrook…

Yes and yes…he’s gonna be the steal of the draft.

By Bronxboy in Md on May 20, 2008

KnicksD..

Shyt, that’s worth alot!!! It’ll do us alot of good to rid ourselves of that albatross of a contract.

By Bronxboy in Md on May 20, 2008

Mock Draft from ESPN based on tonights results.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-080520

Seems that we may have a shot at Westbrook and or Bayless.

Both seem to fit D’antoni’s system.

Great news if the Knicks organization can swing a deal to get rid of Z-Bo.

We lose an albatross contract that does not fit with the incoming regime.

Is there anyway we can negotiate a second rounder out of any possible trades with teh Sixers either in this years or next years draft?

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

Bayless is the far more attractive player, but we really need what Westbrook brings to the table.

Both would help, but Westbrook would pay immediate dividends. Besides, if Steph’s head is on right, we could pick up a serviceable pg via free agency or the draft next year….unless we could work out a deal that would net us a late first/early second rounders, which could either get us Ty Lawson, Mario Chalmers, or Darren Collison..all solid pgs.

By Bronxboy in Md on May 20, 2008

More Draft Previews

This one has some SF prospect footage.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=DraftWatch-080520&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fdraft2008%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dford_chad%26page%3dDraftWatch-080520

By Orange and Blue on May 20, 2008

Knicks fans, I don’t want to spoil your fun…..but, I say, stop and think…..Knicks don’t need more offense, especially young offense. We are already a young enough team as it is. We need to somehow package a trade even if it includes the number six pick, to bring in some veteran defensive minded players that can also shoot and score the open jump shot. Knicks must be able to get stops when they are needed in the fourth quarter, otherwise games will continue to slip away in the coming seasons……we can’t stop anybody….and we absolutely must address the defensive problems of the team…..Knicks fans know this…knicks brass better know it too.

By Syd on May 21, 2008

I kind of agree with Syd, If any of you have read last nite’s blog by Berman
he mentions that he feels that Walsh may package the pick with Randolph (berman admits it’s just his hunch)
this may not be a bad idea if we could get a long Shot Challenger that does not need to hold the ball on offense

By saipanknickster on May 21, 2008

the knicks could also trade for another player(that does not have a long term deal)
that would fit into Mike D’s style better

By saipanknickster on May 21, 2008

Good PM Defenders!

Never look a gift horse in the mouth, and despite our position, we should snag a top tier player if we play our cards right.

Since things aren’t Rosey in the NYC, we might catch another break and stumble on Bayless…The closet thang to Rose at the point in terms of BBALL skills, speed, agility, polished Shot, Great hops, he GOT GAME…But Westbrook is the Truth, and he’s stronger, already a better defender, and the POTENTIAL is off the CHARTS…Skill sets are errily similar except for their size….Two truly gifted and athletic points guards.

Each have the POTENTIAL to be game changers…

ONE LOVE

Keepit POPPIN!

By Cooleyhigh on May 21, 2008

@KD,

I meant to mention, Regarding your post on the ITALIAN KID; with some strength and the right tutoring, he could be the steal of this year’s Draft down the pipe…His Skill Sets are very strong. This kid is A BABY too…Optimum PO!

Peace & Blessings,

Keep it POPPIN!

By Cooleyhigh on May 21, 2008

6th pick. So much for frozen lottery balls. I’m all for keeping the pick if we can get a quality point or packaging it as a way to rid us of a big contract. I see that alot of the media are mentioning that as well but they all point to Zach as the one to be packaged. There are already teams showing interest in him (Denver, Milwaukee, Philly) without him being part of a package. What about using the pick to rid us of the heartless ever-over weight Curry ?

By johnQ on May 21, 2008

Partial repost;

“It made sense to bring in the most entertaining style of hooping to fill the next year or two before taking a huge stab (grab) at a superstar, like Lebron, who would make the league’s stock price zoom even higher if he joined a better team in waiting for him.A team that might actually have a chance of winning the big one.After all,we are not winning it all next year NO MATTER who we draft or trade for, exempting the premature arrival of Lebron or Kobe.Both those guys, understand the value of a mega-dollar and would be here in a heartbeat if it was possible.Well,at least it is a plan, if not one that satisfies the NYC hoopster purists who would prefer a team that plays some D.Sorry, that was the deal Mark!D’Antoni will have to make his biggest decision, as his forunners did, on Eddie Curry, the coach killer.Stephon can be easily resurrected or traded,it’s in his own best interests, which are his only interests apparently.How’s your Starbury line doing with the kids after all your me-first antics?Curry must drop 30 lb. and be rock hard after the summer to be of any use to a running team.Help him Mike!Get him a trainer, a nutritionist, a refrigerator lock,if he needs it,but hold him accountable.If he isn’t doing what he needs to,trade him to another dreamer.Keep his skinnier ass,or trade his fat one.All you need is a plan, a scale and a pair of eyes.Meanwhile, the Knick honeymoon will begin.Trade whoever you want to get more competitive but build that cap space and compatible team that our 2010 star can plug into.Don’t mortgage the future, but keep building that world viewer’s idea of a race horse winner.It will fill the seats and sell the cable subscriptions that make Cablevision’s stockholders tingle all over.”

Thanks so far Mr. Walsh and Mr. D’Antoni.It’s great to see somebody with a plan.Apparently, there are 15 or more quality prospects.This is where GMs lose their jobs because they have to make good choices and live, or die, with them.Accountability is a good thing!I like the slow thoughtful pace our new GM is taking.Rookies rarely help you right away.We can trade down a la Berman and probably get the guy we want anyway and some cap relief, or trade for someone who can help right away.So far,so good.It’s important to keep an eye on the big picture, being under the cap in 2010.Oscar left the Royals to play in Milwaukee with Kareem,they got a championship.Kareem forced a trade to get to LA so he could win another championship(s).This has happened before.If Lebron is unhappy in Cleveland and we look good…If you build it,HE will come.If I were the GM I would be looking to get guys who can play the right way and improve the team over the next two years.If the choices are right we will slowly but surely get better next year and after.A flashy rookie is attractive,but is he a team player? What is his skill set?who will he be in two to three years?does he want to win or just post numbers?In other words, mentally and emotionally how close to Tim Duncan, or Jordan is he?Then look at his game,his team’s record and his potential.Slow and steady wins the race.Eddie Curry is still the key,that’s whether he stays or goes.Personally I’m rooting for him, but if he isn’t working out right now in anticipation of D’antoni’s offense, I’d trade him in a heartbeat.Trade down, trade Zebo or Curry(If you don’t believe any more),see what’s up with Steph and don’t panic!Panic and wishful thinking buried Larry and Ike.
We’ll get better and then….LGK

By Tman on May 21, 2008