Just unbelievable. Mardy collins hasn’t made that shot in two years!
Big thanks to Isiah Thomas’ Pistons pride for sabotaging the knicks’ draft chances in a few weeks.
just when I thought we had something to look forward to in the draft.
I know that some people think there is some kind of honor that can be restored in the last 5 games of a 56-loss season, but this game was only useful to me if we lost.
We didn’t do the right thing tonight.
Two wins in a row? Now of all times? If we win the next game, that will be the SEASON HIGH win streak; unfortunately it will come at the worst time for the future of this franchise since we are supposed to be losing like we have done all season.
Isiah Thomas said after the game “it was a great night for the pistons franchise.”
It wasn’t so great for New York’s franchise.
Said Thomas, “I’m a Piston, but I work for the Knicks right now.”
Whatever happened to the usual, “I’ll keep that in-house at this time”?
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***Update***
new Isiah Thomas quotes:
“I’m extremely confident that, you know, we will get to the top as a Knick organization. We will deliver something that one day everyone will be proud of,” said coach Thomas.
Coach Thomas then added, “Again, you haven’t been proud here since ‘73. 19-73, that would be. So, you know, we got our work cut out and I intend to stick it through and stick it out.”
04/09/08
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With the job Thomas has done for the Knicks maybe he’s still on the Piston’s payroll.
Said Thomas, “I’m a Piston, but I work for the Knicks right now.” Maybe we can make him an ex Knick employee.
He probably counts yesterday evening as his finest night as a Knick.
It’s academic, but I wonder if he actually believes he can succeed in New York. It’s hard to tell, with con men, when they might believe what they’re saying or not. Though the “I’m a Piston” was as honest as it gets. One of his few moments of honesty in four years.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_nothingbutnet/2008/04/knicks-beat-pis.html
Walsh’s first game as president at the garden tonight.
He should stand in the tunnel with his arms crossed overlooking Isiah’s shoulder.
Then, he should wait until the pre-draft camp in orlando this summer to dismiss the current coach.
what goes around, does it ever come around in New York?
Larry Brown was not invited to the Pistons’ great festivities last night in Detroit.
I guess they’re only celebrating Isiah’s era of Pistons basketball, and not the team that kicked LA’s teeth in a few years ago.
KnicksD
I bet if there was a celebration of the greatest all time Knick players, and you’d ask Ewing, who is currently working for the Magic, the questions of where his heart was at during that juncture, he would say that he is a Knick first and foremost.
Isiah did the same thing with the added caveat that he mentioned his responsibility to the Knicks is as an employee. He said something Ewing might not have. But I’m sure Ewing would think it.
And in context, Isiah in a way was telling the MSM whove skewered him this year to STFU b/c they couldn’t touch him at the Palace. Their venom had no effect there.
In New York it’s a different story.
But I have a feeling Isiah will be around with the Knick’s organization in some capacity. He has servicable drafting skills. Heck you can’t deny Chandler is emerging as a solid pick.
Although it might not be as either a GM or Coach, Thomas will hold a place in the organization where his talents are best utilized, and of course far from the glare of the Media microscope. Which the shameless New York BEAT WRITERS use like a child uses his magnifying glass to kill insects.
Enough said.
That’s my opinion that’s all.
Much succes to you.
it seems a lot of people are pretty confused by numbers. this was never about comments numbers for me, and to this day i’ve never received any compensation for this website despite what some people are saying.
this here was about bypassing the media to express how we felt. and i’ve stayed consistent with that, because this is how i feel. And yet I just couldn’t take people hating on me for having an opinion that differs from theirs. that’s called intolerance. fascists are often intolerant of opinions other than their own. Be very careful when intolerance becomes prevalent among all the people in the room.
I don’t subscribe to Isiah Thomas being involved with the Knicks in any way going forward, because when Layden left, they didn’t keep him around for anything, and Layden has had a better record than Isiah Thomas during the same amount of time despite Isiah having better players and coaches (besides himself of course). and don’t get me wrong, I was glad when Layden left and Isiah came in. I supported Isiah, and could not stand those who did not give him a fair chance (Isola, The Grill, ect.). and now, after four years of excess drama, chaos and HEAVY LOSING, i’m glad that Walsh is here, because repeating the same circumstances and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
If walsh doesn’t do shit in four years, it will be time to move on again. hopefully it doesn’t come to that, but still.
I appreciate the friendships that have been forged here and on other blogs, but the Isiah Nazis needed to move on with their agenda some place else.
Isiah had one last chance this season, and he failed in every sense of the word.
if you watched last night’s game on MSG, early on, you heard the commentators saying essentially the same thing, despite the unexpected win.
By the way, tell BARF he said on this blog two or three months ago that he was going to quit being a knicks fan if Isiah got fired from the Knicks. Sure sounds like a Being A Real Fan to me.
Fan of Isiah.
Why are we winning again?
sGood PM Defenders!
KD, post number 6 was by far the most hypocritical thing you have ever written. Shame on you! What you just wrote is simply not true on many levels. This is your house KD and I respect that immensely, but BS is BS, no matter who’s house. To claim this is all about IT is such a veil, when in fact THIS BEEF BETWEEN YOU AND THE OTHERS is ALL ABOUT EGO and Racial Indifference from both camps….And, if you’re not careful KD, your house of cards will fall apart due your inability to control your emotions and biases, and forgive, and their inability to admit to bad behavior and understand you don’t have to be crude and rude to get your point across, and keep it real….
IN THE END KD TWO WRONGS DON’T MAKE A RIGHT…You showed your true COLORS in post #6 KD!
Keep it POPPIN!
Good Evening Deeeeeee-fenders
NOW we start winning?…….
Losing those ping-pong balls!
What is the thinking here? Sit Jamal.Sit Zach.
We need DRose or Beasley.
Hope we get a good point guard.
KnicksD,
I like Thomas,was happy when he bought these guys in,they just did not perform.
He has to go for a fresh start.That’s just how it is!
where has everyone gone?
3 in a row? break up this group? donnie will be genius next year?
“I’m extremely confident that, you know, we will get to the top as a Knick organization. We will deliver something that one day everyone will be proud of,” said coach Thomas.
Coach Thomas then added, “Again, you haven’t been proud here since ’73. 19-73, that would be. So, you know, we got our work cut out and I intend to stick it through and stick it out.”
KnicksD
Isiah hasn’t been fired yet.
If he is. Oh well. I’ll continue being a Knick fan.
If he stays and his talents are constructively utilized. I’ll still be a Knicks’ fan.
The point for me is that there not be a rush to judgment and wholesale changes for the sake of making wholesale changes.
There is a talent base in this organization. No doubt alot of redundancy also. But many of the players Isiah picked will either stay on and make a contribution to the team.
Sure there is a lack of a bonafide two way star but considering where the Knicks’ have played in the draft, they have solid players generally.
Too blow it up just to give the impression of change isn’t a good move either. To that end you’ll notice how the broadcasters point to Walsh’s measured patient approach. And that he is going to cross his Ps and Qs before making any move.
I sort of understand some of your frustration because the beginning of the Isiah regime was marked by alot fo flash and sweeping changes. People were let go w/o having the opportunity to plead their case or at least get the news from the horses mouth, and a series of player shuffles which has invited long and expensive conracts was also par for the course. But do remember that the Knicks have cleared some of their excessive pay roll and if they stand pat they will clear more.
Recall that an eye for an eye leaves all blind and to repeat the same sordid events that were part of the Isiah regime is not a way for the Organization to start off on the right foot going foward.
Lastly you should note that the Knicks are not the only team that have been torn apart by internal division resulting from bruised egos, and a wholesale player abandoment of the coach by the players. Chicago despite a string of yearly success also experienced the effect of bruised egos (ala the Mebury episode in Phoenix) with the hurt egos suffered by Duhon, Gordon et al when Kobe’s name was bandied about in a manner that slighted those players as second class rethreads. Also the awoling of the team on Scott Skiles compounded that internal division and a former playoff team took several steps back.
Everything should be considered in context.
That is not to say Isiah is a choir boy, and that he has been a stellar coach for the duration of this year.
But context is the great bringer of levity which all parties need from time to time.
Good night to you.
DLT
For more ample fellowship.
Contact me at illaatoq@yahoo.com
Drossmen has a Eunuchy feel!
Vic Corbit
barf and african chose to leave for good, and peaceman and statesman were both permanently banned from knicksdefense. As a result, they started their own site, you can look for the link on hahn’s blog if you wish to follow their lead, as some here have chosen to do. it is for the best, there is clearly a conflict of interest.
DLT
Choosing to post at one site or another doesn’t necessarily result in a conflict of interest.
It’s not like one of those you’re with us or against us scenarios.
If you would like to keep in touch with the displaced bloggers do so.
If not that’s ok also. Just be true to yourself
O&B. your example of chicago failed to mention that scott skiles got fired in december despite having a better record than Isiah thomas’ knicks. isiah is still the coach to this day, and he didn’t get to the second round of the playoffs in the preceding year.
O&B. Nobody is asking you to pick sides except your “fellowship.”
O&B. “rush to change?” after four years as gm? after two full years as coach and less than a 30% winning record?
O&B. clearing payroll could have been accomplished by any CPA that doesn’t know jack schitt about basketball, as gm your responsibility is you have to clear payroll and attempt to be competitive, the knicks have not been competitive in a long time, and the cap space problem is only marginally better than it was at layden’s time of departure.
Please don’t anyone come on here trying to recruit people away from this site. If you want to blog with the Nazis, that’s fine. but try to show some class. don’t come on here with the smugness talking about “good luck to you,” “good night to you,” and then turn around and do otherwise on here, and say otherwise on other blogs.
The people that can think for themselves are the only people I care to associate with, O&B.
I’ll leave you with this final thought for the night O&B, and you can appreciate it or ignore it or go talk shit about me on hahn’s blog again, whatever.
much has been written here since October on not accepting the mainstream media’s presentation of the new york knicks under isiah thomas, right?
so then the general question becomes, if you’re in a room full of people who are in total agreement in their opinion, does it necessarily make that opinion true?
Perhaps you already know the answer to that question. You’ll find for some, it depends on how much they wish to fit in with that group, yet others will think for themselves and come to their own conclusions despite what said room full of people considers to be true.
Yes, the knicks played the Bobcats, one of the worst NBA teams, but the younger players ie balkman, Chandler helped the knicks win the game. I’ve been saying all along that the Knicks should feature the younger players more. Jared and Q need to sit and the younger hungrier players like balkman and Chandler need to play. Its enough watching JJ screw up.,
drossman
you weren’t here, but people have been consistently saying “free wilson chandler” on this blog since november.
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