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Knicks at Raptors

February 24, 2008 – 11:21 am

Good win the other night by our Knicks. Jamal got hot, Zach had another solid game, and Lee came in off the bench and produced. So we were able to close them out, but like so many of the defenders have said already, Jamal isn’t always going to shoot like that, so the keys to a victory today up in Toronto may be a little different. Jamal, when he gets going like that, is fun to watch however. As Gus Johnson would say, “Crawford has in-the-gym range!”

The game time tonight is slated for 6pm.

The Knicks have to take care of the basketball, play tight defense, and, like everybody’s been saying lately, move the ball. If they do these things, can they make it two on a row? In a few hours we find out.

I did get to see some of the #2 Tennessee vs #1 Memphis last night, what a great game. This guy Prince on Tennessee is just a heck of a competitor, they gave it 110% in terms of rebounding and defense and knocked out the undefeated Memphis to take their #1 ranking in the nation.

Derrick Rose looked like the real deal. We’ll see more from him during March Madness, but just going from last night, he can be a leader in the NBA. He had 24, 5, 5 and did whatever the game required him to do at that moment. Good ability to go coast to coast and finish at the rack, solid defense, got his teammates involved, can drive to the basket and take a hit, can pull up and stick the jumper, reminds me a little of D Wade. He might be a little short to play the two guard in NBA, but we’ll have to wait and see how his game translates at the NBA level. Dumars was a hall of fame two guard and he was the same height as Rose. Right now it looks like Rose or Beasley will go #1 and #2 in the draft, Beasley did had 44 and 13 last night, but his team also lost.

Free Wilson Chandler!

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  1. 134 Responses to “Knicks at Raptors”

  2. New York Knicks - Daily Webs

    Title
    season starts with win

    Raptors vs Knicks - February 24, 2008

    Braving the cold

    NBA notes

    Dolan tells fan: Knicks are the next Celtics

    Any Given Monday

    New York Knicks (17-38) at Toronto Raptors (29-24), 6 p.m.

    It’s all in the head

    By Syd on Feb 24, 2008 at 1:12 pm

  3. Good Afternoon Defenders

    At some point I’m hoping a win like Friday’s will start to turn this season for us.

    I keep hoping.

    We have to continue to share the ball(i.e Craw,Zach) and keep active hands on defense.

    We can do this!!

    Go Knicks!!!!

    By D L T Knicks on Feb 24, 2008 at 1:49 pm

  4. It looks like no team in Stern’s NBA is immune to the drubbing on national TV.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Feb 24, 2008 at 4:13 pm

  5. Nate needs to find his offense if Craw is double teamed tonight.
    Knicks need to man up, drive to the paint @ Bosh ..get him in foul trouble,
    have a little luck and we can and will win tonight….we got this!

    By Peaceman on Feb 24, 2008 at 4:57 pm

  6. I like that Peaceman:

    “MAN-UP”,especially ECurry(spelled with no “d”)

    By D L T Knicks on Feb 24, 2008 at 5:40 pm

  7. i like the way nate is playing tonight, a lot of poise thus far. taking it to the basket, hitting it from outside. looks like another good game so far.

    By knicksdefense on Feb 24, 2008 at 6:26 pm

  8. moon just packed curry.

    By knicksdefense on Feb 24, 2008 at 6:26 pm

  9. Good Start!!!! Robinson must keep up his good play to support Crawford.

    By Syd on Feb 24, 2008 at 6:38 pm

  10. our defense is still too lax.
    q is starting to miss.
    six point game…

    By knicksdefense on Feb 24, 2008 at 6:40 pm

  11. Curry’s confidence is at an all-time low right now….

    He faded away on a dunk and missed, for cryin’ out lout….

    Every shot he misses in the lane is, off course, a fall-away shot

    He’s 6′11″, 325 lbs…why is HE afraid of contact?????

    He’s getting torched on mismatches. Sam Mitchell is cleverly involving him in pick and rolls, and they’re rollin’ 7/11 everytime.

    He got a tongue-lashing from N8, undoubtedly for being soft and apprehensive.

    Has this man any fuggin’ pride? Doesn’t it bother him that he’s playing this way, after damn near being awarded the keys to the city, prompting the moniker “ECity”???

    Yo African, I know u got some connects. Why don’t you get word to ya boy to man-up, quit playin’ like a scared little bytch, and play some damn basketball?

    He needs to, and we need him to.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Feb 24, 2008 at 6:43 pm

  12. Curry seems to be rushing his shot ….he’s got to control himself

    By Syd on Feb 24, 2008 at 6:45 pm

  13. Lord, if you hear me…please take Curry out of the game…..

    By Bronxboy in Md on Feb 24, 2008 at 6:50 pm

  14. Taz making his presence felt tonite …

    By Syd on Feb 24, 2008 at 6:51 pm

  15. Bronx,
    Looks like da Lawd heard ya.
    Which version of yo boy Craw will grace presence tonite–ful or some?

    KFLL

    By Steady on Feb 24, 2008 at 6:56 pm

  16. 47-40 Raps so far.

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:01 pm

  17. Zach and 1

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:01 pm

  18. 47-43

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:02 pm

  19. Zach 1-7, Q 1-3, Ey 1-4, Lee 1-3

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:05 pm

  20. floater by nate! seems he’s in a grove tonight much like craw the last game…

    By knicksdefense on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:06 pm

  21. fred jones with the butter fingers, happens sometimes.

    By knicksdefense on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:06 pm

  22. N8 4-6, Craw 6-10

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:06 pm

  23. that was ugly possession by the knicks. zbo, pass the rock buddy.

    By knicksdefense on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:07 pm

  24. They need to ride N8 tonight, but they won’t. On cue,Zach jacks one up for no reason.

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:08 pm

  25. We’ve got a game here…

    By Syd on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:10 pm

  26. 54-52 Raps at the half. We got this!!

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:10 pm

  27. JJeffries, Mardy and Chandler on the outside looking in. Everyone else on the active roster have gotten in.

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:15 pm

  28. Our heros gotta come out blazin’ with a 9-0 run and 3 hard fouls or slam dunks to break their spirits.
    Then, insert VicBit here.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:15 pm

  29. We need energy to start the third.

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:17 pm

  30. Jay Bee, Bronx, Steady, KD and Syd on the keyboard tonight. Good evening gents. Just got in. Decided to go directly to the game instead of DVR. Looks good.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:30 pm

  31. Opps. Maybe I should go back to DVR.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:30 pm

  32. Hey Lives…….

    By Syd on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:32 pm

  33. Knicks are forgetting this is a 3pt shooting team….

    By Syd on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:33 pm

  34. WHy in the funk are they doubling Bosh in favor of the three. That is absolutely crazy. They didn’t do that in the victory two days ago. Are they crazy?

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:35 pm

  35. Let Bosh take the damn shot.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:35 pm

  36. All right Da Raptors had their run..time for ours!

    By Peaceman on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:37 pm

  37. Just got in …in time for the Raptor Run…
    No sweat…Craw seems STEADY…keep this around -9
    going into the 4th and let Crawford Zone on their
    Canadian Azz’S!

    By Peaceman on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:41 pm

  38. 4th quarter. 17 down. Unnecessarily down by 17. I don’t understand how Isiah could order a doubel with the defenders he had out there. They haven’t been able to rotate that fast in two years. Incredible.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:57 pm

  39. Has Jeffries played?
    Maybe he should guard Bosh..with instructions not to shoot!

    By Peaceman on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:57 pm

  40. Oh NO!!! No-D-CITY!!!!

    By Peaceman on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:59 pm

  41. Curry in. Are we throwing in the towel before we cut into this lead?

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 24, 2008 at 7:59 pm

  42. @ Lives..

    Like Clyde said in the first half, the solution to all negating all of the open jumpers is for everybody to play their own man. Period.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Feb 24, 2008 at 8:00 pm

  43. Agreed Bronx.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 24, 2008 at 8:03 pm

  44. Didn’t Crawford try to tell them he was tired?

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 24, 2008 at 8:03 pm

  45. Zeke coaches one good one and then coaches a bad one. I just don’t understand. Maybe Zeke is tanking games. Is that what Dolan meant when he told a fan that we will improve like last year’s Celtics. Is that the secret Stern knows? Because a Defender could coach better than this.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 24, 2008 at 8:05 pm

  46. hehe

    By Syd on Feb 24, 2008 at 8:07 pm

  47. Lives,
    The context of that statement may mean that playoffs or not, Monty comes back to finish executing “the vision” which Dolan supposedly bought into when he fired the HOF ABS coach. Still, tanking just sticks in my craw. Let’s see if we fantasy coach/GMs can will it some other way.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Feb 24, 2008 at 8:26 pm

  48. We don’t got this.

    By Jay Bee on Feb 24, 2008 at 9:14 pm

  49. …one more loss, one step closer to Derrick Rose.

    just bloggin’

    By knicksdefense on Feb 24, 2008 at 10:17 pm

  50. With Marbury, Rose, Jones and Morris’s contract expiring next year = 38 million to
    play GM with! That has to be something talked about in the MSG ” War Room.”

    By Peaceman on Feb 24, 2008 at 10:26 pm

  51. what is that crap on jamal’s shoulder? it has been there for a long time and appears to be growing with each game.

    By knicksdefense on Feb 25, 2008 at 1:01 am

  52. didn’t get much from the bigs tonight. the knicks’ seattle back court put up good scoring and did not turn the ball over, but toronto’s defense shut down the knicks’ frontcourt. the seattle back court has to get their bigs going in the game.

    the third quarter killed us, gave up a lot of wide open shots. the knicks just assume they’ll miss. the recovery time off a double team in the post is too slow.

    By knicksdefense on Feb 25, 2008 at 1:40 am

  53. Toronto over Knicks

    Raptors earn split with Knicks

    Ron
    Artest to Opt out, Possibly Sign with New York Knicks

    Raptors’ range causes Knicks to crumble

    Recap: Toronto vs. New York

    No mistakes this time, Raptors bury Knicks

    Sam Mitchell/Isiah Thomas - Raps/Knicks - Feb. 24/08

    By Syd on Feb 25, 2008 at 8:29 am

  54. I’ve been trying to figure out Zeke all year and tanking games is one theory that I will keep on the table along with many other theories that i would have never considered (see Steady’s Chicago Boy’s Theory). I’ve also got the “Q’s got serious dirt on Isiah Theory” and the “Balkman and Mardy didn’t pour his morning cofee just right” theory.

    Anyway, here is my fuller take on Jamal… with a little ’80’s flavor (or lack thereof) http://www.cosellout.com/?p=229

    By MODI on Feb 25, 2008 at 8:29 am

  55. Good AM Defenders

    Seems like Zeke can’t find 5 guys to play consistant for 1 game.

    This is what we got till October………not good.

    By D L T Knicks on Feb 25, 2008 at 8:45 am

  56. This is why I hate Eddie.

    “I’m going to continue to do what I do. I’m not going to change who I am,” Curry said. “I just really hope I fit in here. I hope they see that I fit in, because I think I do. I just have to keep doing what I do.”

    Doing what ? playing small ? not playing D ? Clogging up the middle on O ? Don’t change Eddie. You’re perfect as the failure you are.

    By JohnQ on Feb 25, 2008 at 8:57 am

  57. Those few times in the 2nd half when Zeke sent the guy least likely to recover ( EC ) to double Bosh leaving a wide open Bargnani was absolutely retarded. I blame alot on Eddie but it doesn’t help that Zeke was setting him up to fail w/ that weak defensive scheme.

    By JohnQ on Feb 25, 2008 at 9:04 am

  58. Yo defenders use guys be a great basketball family.

    But

    I think Andrea Punani bent the Knicks over with some three balls that went balls deep into the Knicks craw!

    Thomas is a defensive genuis rotating slowcity Ey Curry over to double on Bosh and then have to recover on Punani.

    He must love smashing his head up against the oppositions fist figuring it will work out somewhere.

    Thomas is part of the reason the teams basketball IQ is so low.

    By CloacknDaggers on Feb 25, 2008 at 9:17 am

  59. Hey seems like James is yapping up again about being traded to a team who’ll use him.

    From Marc Berman’s latest article on the NYPOST

    ‘Center Jerome James realizes there’s no role for him on these Knicks and hopes Thomas releases him this summer if he can’t trade him. James is owed $12.8M after this season. James was a DNP for the third time in four games.

    James said he understands his buried status, but would rather not be a Knick next season. Since getting healthy and being activated five weeks ago, James has appeared in two games for five garbage-time minutes.

    Because of James, the Knicks have the max 15 players and no roster spot to sign a playmaking point guard if one shakes loose now.

    “I might not fit on this team, but I’ll fit somewhere,” James said - adding he won’t negotiate a settlement.’

    Here’s a question. With the West getting bigger, and certain teams jonesing for a servicable big man, why don’t we use James expiring contract to obtain some servicable parts the Knicks clearly need.

    Online GMs is this feasible, are there any trade proposals anyone here can come up with?

    With Dallas?

    With Denver?

    There is clearly a need for size in the West! Let’s get something done!

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 25, 2008 at 9:30 am

  60. O&B
    The problem is Jame’s contract is not expiring!
    I tell you WHAT # 46 seems to be deadly accurate.
    Another thing….if there is a Coach in the NBA that can motivate
    a big and a PG, it is none other than Riley…so I believe Steph and Curry
    may end up there next season, how that gets done and for who is the big question!

    By Peaceman on Feb 25, 2008 at 10:11 am

  61. new power rankings

    By knicksdefense on Feb 25, 2008 at 11:50 am

  62. So James thinks he’ll be released at full salary to help “his” career. However, he is not willing to negotiate his salary down in order to “buy” himself out if that’s what he really wants. Another team, if he’s really wanted, could make up the difference.

    By Jay Bee on Feb 25, 2008 at 11:57 am

  63. somebody found this over on knicks knacks, thought you might find it interesting:

    http://www.myspace.com/jdandthestraightshot

    By knicksdefense on Feb 25, 2008 at 12:10 pm

  64. Curry and Malik for Matrix ? just bloggin’

    By JohnQ on Feb 25, 2008 at 12:12 pm

  65. If I were Zeke, I would have to ask James what he has done for the Knicks in his tenure here that makes him think they’d give him a full salary parting gift and let him sign w/ another team. I think James should actually owe the franchise money not vice versa.

    By JohnQ on Feb 25, 2008 at 12:17 pm

  66. Good PM Defenders!

    It appears MONTY a.k.a. Sir Noise is D-Void of Funk, and he truly hates water because he never learned to swin…This TEAM can’t catch the Rhythm of the Stroke either; Their ALL Wet, and got US all feeling we might choked…

    THEY MUST DROWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They have not LEARNED to SWIM TOGETHER…

    Like the P-Funk say, Baa Baa Black Sheep have you any wool, yes sir, yes sir A Nickel Bag Full…SPARK IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    STEADY, where’s my Henny As it Goes…LOL That should help take the EDGE OFF…Next Stop NYC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Have A Great Week Defender! Even though OUR TEAM is Lacking, at LEAST WE HAVE EACH OTHER and IN MY BOOK THAT COUNTS FOR SOMETHING….

    FORCE MD’S/DC’S will LEAD the WAY……….ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL CALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    COOLEYHIGH IN THE HOUSE AND I PLAN ON KEEPING IT POPPIN

    Keep it POPPIN!!!!

    By Cooleyhigh on Feb 25, 2008 at 2:48 pm

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    By PaulNoize on Feb 25, 2008 at 3:26 pm

  68. Two different takes on Ey Curry’s dilema this year as a member (sort of) of the NY Knicks

    Currying No Favor by Steve Adameck.

    It’s more than a bad matchup by Mike Dougherty.

    African will prefer Dougherty’s article over Adameck’s.

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 25, 2008 at 3:47 pm

  69. Steady as IT goes. Always ready for Ws–that’s why we scroll.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Feb 25, 2008 at 4:07 pm

  70. LIVES IS AROUND THE HOUSE, BUT I AM DYING LAUGHING.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 25, 2008 at 4:28 pm

  71. COOLEYHIGH, I didn’t know you could AquaBoogie.

    I hope all is well with you and yours.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 25, 2008 at 4:29 pm

  72. I read a very interesting piece by David Anderson of the New York Times Sunday morning. It was a fictional dream sequence where he had a conversation with James Dolan at the Garden. Fiction, actually labeled as fiction, in the New York Times! Interesting. Check the back of the sports pages and tell me what you think.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 25, 2008 at 4:30 pm

  73. present an chillin in lowercase.

    By Charles Follymacher on Feb 25, 2008 at 5:25 pm

  74. Forever vigilant and never, ever sleepin’, BX is in the house….

    By Bronxboy in Md on Feb 25, 2008 at 5:47 pm

  75. Orange and Blue

    Present and accounted for here and in some alternate Universe where the Knicks are heading towards NY’s first three peat ever!

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 25, 2008 at 5:59 pm

  76. DOLANS’ DESIGNS
    RAINBOW SALE IS AMONG CABLEVISION OPTIONS
    By PETER LAURIA

    February 25, 2008 — Cablevision has been quietly working with Bear Stearns on ways to enhance shareholder value, including putting a value on its Rainbow Media unit ahead of a possible sale and drawing up a list of targets for potential acquisitions, The Post has learned.

    Several sources said that after being sidelined for months in the aftermath of the Dolan family’s failed attempt to go private, the family is trying to “figure out the math” for Cablevision’s next move.

    The company has already bid for wireless spectrum being auctioned off by the federal government, which if successful could help them pursue acquisitions in that area. And sources suggested the company might look for ways to bulk up Madison Square Garden and its sports-related assets. For example, last summer Cablevision made a play for the Yankees and its related YES network.

    Cablevision hasn’t been an avid seller or acquirer, but after four failed attempts to go private, the Dolans are looking to do something to reinvigorate the company at a time when investors have soured on cable companies.

    The company doesn’t have a lot of cash on its books - about $800 million - but its projected free cash flow gives it substantial room to make some purchases.

    Wall Street analysts estimate Cablevision will generate between $600 million and $700 million in free cash flow this year and significantly more after that.

    Even at the low end of this year’s free cash flow projection, Cablevision would have the debt capacity to acquire about $2 billion worth of assets, sources said. Selling Rainbow would only increase the amount Cablevision could spend on acquisitions.

    Sounds like they want to cut debt, not incur new debt, enhance the value of the franchise in the marketplace and buy into being a bigger player.Losing will not enhance that desire.All those not seen as part of a newer and more successful regime are history.Dolan the Elder has spoken, little Jimmy seems to be going along.Look for IT and Jerome to all play hardball in terms of a buyout.You reap what you sow.LGK PS.Eddie looks a little lighter, maybe it’s just my eyes.Let the man get his six fouls!How is it that the only big man who can block a shot can’t even get a minute?Anybody can lose by twenty, give Jerome a chance to look bad.He’s paid for.Does anyone honestly believe Jamal will shoot us to a second half .500 record?

    By Tman on Feb 25, 2008 at 6:10 pm

  77. CF, I started to address this post “From a Cheeky Monkey to Donkey’s Cheek” but I figured you weren’t in the mood to laugh at yourself since you’re imagining that the Harlem Gospel Singers were probably singing all the way to the bank. So I won’t try to be more cheeky or monkey-like than I already am.

    You put me in the position where I had to decide whether it was worth my time to find the passages I am referring to.. . . Unsure of what a “false dialectic” could be, I thought about it and I thought I could find the passages pretty quickly. Unfortunately it appears that the historical record has been lost as I believe we were forewarned they would be once the word-deletion program went into effect. Therefore, I think there are posts that you made that I cannot find.

    I specifically recall a post where you supported the deletion of the N-word and another post where you specifically suggested that anyone who could not write without using those words should find somewhere else to post. I also remember you tossing the ACLU around like a bad acronym at anyone who cited freedom of speech as an argument against banning any word. I don’t recall whether you instigated the Peaceman episode, but I believe you did under the theory that the “word” was inappropriate because it was “hurtful” or “harmful.” So I am pretty sure that, despite the absence of a supporting record, that you advised us that you opposed the use of the “N-word” on this site because it was harmful.

    Was the above, the “crock” of your argument? O’k so here we go again with you pointing to the “crock” of your argument, like your main point is a camouflage for all those “minor” points you make or insinuate. It appears that your favorite argument is to avoid the argument. (LOL).

    Anyway the references don’t really matter because I was just curious how you were going to address the issue. And you kindly addressed the issue by referring to the “Pman incident,” which was not part of the question, while conceding that banning the N-word was “related” to your point but not the “crux” of your argument.

    You also dismissed the Z-Bo incident by referencing, without detail, how I “framed” the question instead of dealing with the issue. How, I “framed” the question? Talk about chewing on a red herring. So, your response to the conundrum is clear and clearly follows your pattern of “false dialectic” which I believe would not be dialectical at all. Thank you working through your musical disappointment and offering a response to my query.

    (I was so impressed with your argument however that after I “framed” it, I called the Director of the Lourve and suggested that they start a wing with your creation. They asked who you were and I told them one of the greatest bullshyte artists in American history. I think they are going to check your work out and ask for the opinion of dung master Chris Ofili. Paris here we come).

    “Conundrum Master,” I also recall you inferring that I was disingenuous in a post which I responded to by advising you such language was more offensive to me than the “N-word.” I don’t recall a response. But I do know that your rationale for banning the “N-word” is bogus, if not disingenuous Did I tell you that I am at least ½ black? And I gotta tell you that the Black in me takes great umbrage at being compared to a monkey (cheeky or erudite) – you do know that referring to a Black man as a “Monkey” is not much of an improvement, if any, over calling him a “N-word.” But you did know that, didn’t you NEGRO? (I’m playing nice.)

    (For the record, all those other races and nationalities that make up the rest of me also find the reference disrespectful and disparaging).

    Anyway, the bottom line is this: you’re dull of . . . . contradictions and any claim by you that you are opposed to harmful language like nigro on principle is clearly not based on any solid principle.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 25, 2008 at 6:11 pm

  78. Anyway, the bottom line is this: you’re full of . . . . contradictions and any claim by you that you are opposed to harmful language like nigro on principle is clearly not based on any solid principle.

    Opps, “crock” was supposed to be “crux.” I know someone is saying “same difference” but I say “my bad.”

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 25, 2008 at 6:12 pm

  79. Modi,

    I really enjoyed your Jamal Crawford piece. As inconsistent as Crawford is, there is no indication that he will become a sixth man for anyone any time soon. You’re just gonna have to be mesmerized by those eyes and you best believe somebody is going to take him home to mama.

    1. His shooting percentage has improved from last year and is at equal to his best when he has started over 30 games and played at least 60 (5 seasons out of 8).

    2. His shooting percentage would probably be slightly better if Isiah was not stuck on that crazy end of quarter play where Jamal works the clock down with a defender all in his face before launching a difficult shot with 2 seconds left from about 20 feet. He rarely makes those shots.

    3. How do you think Jamal would look alongside LeBron or Kobe or Duncan? Better? Probably.
    4. Who on the Knicks should replace Crawford in the starting line-up?

    5. Not that it really matters, you do know that Marbury is a career 43% shooter and he was shooting almost 42% the past two seasons. He also is a career 78% free throw shooter and 32% behind the arc although he was better the last two seasons.

    6. I do agree that Jamal should not be considered the “star” of a team. We were supposed to have three stars: Jamal, Curry and Zbo. LIVES IS IN THE HOUSE AND DYING LAUGHING.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 25, 2008 at 6:20 pm

  80. Me Boy, Rainbow Jerermy who lives by Da Follyman in Da Canada
    tells me dat Folleyman’s Elevator does not go to da top of his
    building! Why? Him goes to see da harlem Globetrotters and him hab no
    clue till after da show dat da real ones hab brothers in the group,
    Folly saw all cawcasions and still him don’t know???
    Him also think dat Euthenasia is when da Doctors kill da old people.
    Folly thinks da doctors accused of dat are all young Asians from China and Japan.

    Me got Folly on an interview, him is da one dat didn’t Flush da toilet backstage
    me caught him here in dis Video http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ali+g&ei=UTF-8&vs=youtube.com&fr2=sc-sb&xargs=0&pstart=1&b=11
    Don’t deny it any more Folley! Me caught you!

    By Ali G on Feb 25, 2008 at 6:41 pm

  81. Dis be da one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB5VXJXxnNU - 103k - Cached
    sorry peeps

    By Ali G on Feb 25, 2008 at 6:43 pm

  82. what’s up my brothers from other mothers-

    for those who are interested,

    BEASLEY.

    KANSAS STATE.

    TONIGHT.

    9PM.

    ESPN/ESPN2

    He had 44 and 13 the other night, but his team lost.

    right now, I’d prefer to draft Derrick Rose if I were the Knicks, but I haven’t seen enough of these kids to be certain.

    Just bloggin’

    By knicksdefense on Feb 25, 2008 at 6:52 pm

  83. Looks like the Pacers, Wizards, Bulls and ATL will all lose tonight
    which may be good for the Knicks!
    Here’s what I don’t like about Beasley…Dx Express caught the same thing here:

    We’ve seen a fair share of Beasley-esque plays where he forces the issue and tries to do too much out on the perimeter (for example an ill-advised double-clutch pull-up fadeaway jumper), but he’s been able to make up for his mistakes largely by just rebounding his own misses and putting them back in. Beasley was known to be somewhat of a selfish player in high school at times, and from what we could tell from the game footage we evaluated early on, he’s not quite shedding that label quite yet. The ball-movement often stops once it reaches his hands, and oftentimes it seems like he is going to take the ball at shoot it no matter what, regardless of how the play develops around him. That’s something some NBA scouts won’t mind at all, while others will hope he’ll grow out of as he continues to mature.

    Defensively, there is absolutely no way around the fact that Beasley has looked awful so far–not really a surprise considering his reputation coming into college. Even when he tries to put in a legit effort, he looks unfocused–almost completely lost– constantly out of position, and too often caught with his hand in the cookie jar gambling for steals. He doesn’t always put in that legit effort, though, as it’s not rare to see him looking a bit lazy running the floor to get back, particularly in transition situations. Again, some scouts will shake their heads at these types of things, while others will chalk it up to youth and inexperience.

    Does this remind you guys of any of our Knick players??????

    By Ali G on Feb 25, 2008 at 7:02 pm

  84. Ali G using my freaken computer again! lol

    By Peaceman on Feb 25, 2008 at 7:04 pm

  85. KnicksD,
    There’s a lot of great scouting points on Rose, but I like to see the good, bad and the ugly,
    here is the ugly since there is so much good hype on him!

    January 30, 2008
    Derrick Rose came into this season hyped as one of the best freshman in this class, and with that hype, came some very lofty expectations. Rose’s 4.4 assists and 3.0 turnovers per game don’t exactly lend themselves to the Jason Kidd-style pure point guard comparisons that Rose has drawn, and the fact that this was just his second game with more than 6 assists on the season isn’t very encouraging either. But as always in these cases, it’s important to look deeper than the stats when scouting NBA prospects.

    By Peaceman on Feb 25, 2008 at 7:18 pm

  86. peace, i hear you. also, that youtube video of derrick rose high school highlights was all dunks (granted they were extremely athletic dunks at that). had we youtube back when kidd was in high school, it would have been less dunks and more sweet passing and all the rest we associate with kidd’s style of play throughout his career.

    with the knicks out of contention, I’m still going to watch all the knicks games, but I look foward to march madness and will try to notice some of these outstanding players in college, beasley and rose included in the mix, but also some of these other kids like Jordan and Lopez.

    By knicksdefense on Feb 25, 2008 at 7:55 pm

  87. beasley’s coach always looks like he wants to kick somebody’s ass.

    By knicksdefense on Feb 25, 2008 at 9:14 pm

  88. @Lives

    The Cooley Clan is doing fine under the circumstances…Having the Grandson here for a few days was a slice of heaven. The Cooley Madness will LIVES on for at least another generation…LOL Now that’s some Ire and Sattire…LOL

    You’re posts were quite interesting…You were in RARE FORM Resident Poet…The Acela be smokin and quick like no jokin, get here soon or there be some pokin, cause the FORCE MD’s/DC’S be stokin…cause the Quiet Car be chokin…You got style LIVES IN NJ…

    Don’t be a stranger!

    Keep it POPPIN

    By Cooleyhigh on Feb 25, 2008 at 9:31 pm

  89. N8 has become the one to watch. IMO he is willing to say the things that Crawford doesn’t. Hopefully he is saying to Crawford the things he needs to hear too.

    As a guard, if you can score at will that’s useful. You have to sacrifice that a little to become a facilitator. N8’s game should emulate Tony Parker’s more than any other athlete. Parker goes to the rack just like N8. Tony has a respectable outside jumper and he can make the three pointer. He uses those tools to get the ball to his teammates. Billups, same way. You can’t leave those guys alone because they’ll kill you either shooting or driving. But when the defense comes to defend him the ball shouldn’t just kick out to the three. It’s got to move. People have to cut.

    If all we’re doing is outside shooting and threes then we get predictable and anybody can stop us. What we tend to forget is that when the ball is on a swivel and bodies are cutting, we’re hard to defend.

    On defense, N8 needs to be pesky. An eye-poking, tiddy-twisting, scratching and physical defender. He has the strength to guard almost anybody. Now let’s see if he has the will and the discipline.

    By Jay Bee on Feb 25, 2008 at 11:45 pm

  90. New York Knicks - Daily Webs

    Chicago Bulls
    Home :: Bulls Sam Smith’s NBA mailbag

    I love the Knicks

    By Syd on Feb 26, 2008 at 8:32 am

  91. D Nichols back to D league again.

    By JohnQ on Feb 26, 2008 at 8:45 am

  92. The Pacers, Bulls and ATL lost last night, Keeping hope alive!!!!

    By Peaceman on Feb 26, 2008 at 9:47 am

  93. 20-6, means playoffs!! Do you believe? EC will lead the way.

    By isiah on Feb 26, 2008 at 2:04 pm

  94. Knicks Draft Outlook: Point Guards

    http://knicks.realgm.com/articles/19/20080225/knicks_draft_outlook_point_guards/

    By ANTI- NYSN on Feb 26, 2008 at 3:02 pm

  95. Isiah Thomas’ Knicks Legacy, Summed Up In One Possession

    http://deadspin.com/360793/isiah-thomas-knicks-legacy-summed-up-in-one-possession

    By ANTI- NYSN on Feb 26, 2008 at 3:17 pm

  96. Hey Anti…

    Peeped at the link on your post, and they compared DJ Augustine to the same pg I compared him to in a previous, recent post…..Jameer Nelson.

    I thought he should’ve been ranked higher…Anyways, I wouldn’t be pissed if he wound up a Knick.

    I also like Mario Chalmers out of Kansas. That kid is had the package!!

    By Bronxboy in Md on Feb 26, 2008 at 3:34 pm

  97. Forgive me for butchering that last sentence…it’s been a long day….lol

    By Bronxboy in Md on Feb 26, 2008 at 3:36 pm

  98. ***BIG LONG THINGIE FOR LIVES (MOSTLY)***

    Lives, my apologies for the delay. When my ADD acts up, it’s quite the effort to overcome boredom and this stuff is getting way tedious. I’ll just respond to your bit this way instead of writing up a full ‘essay’ type thing…

    CF, I started to address this post “From a Cheeky Monkey to Donkey’s Cheek” but I figured you weren’t in the mood to laugh at yourself since you’re imagining that the Harlem Gospel Singers were probably singing all the way to the bank. So I won’t try to be more cheeky or monkey-like than I already am.

    S’okay, I’m over the gospel “show“ now (we were duped!). Live an learn.

    You put me in the position where I had to decide whether it was worth my time to find the passages I am referring to.. . .

    Yes, cuz you’d put ME in the position of having to look up stuff which, to my mind, was comfortably different from what you were assigning to me. Hey. my time’s worth somethin, too. If you’re going to call me conundrum master (please note you began the name-calling first) and distort my position on things, you should at least come correct with something specific. Your fuzzy misinterpretation should not count before an honest attempt to back up your claim.

    Unsure of what a “false dialectic” could be, I thought about it and I thought I could find the passages pretty quickly. Unfortunately it appears that the historical record has been lost as I believe we were forewarned they would be once the word-deletion program went into effect. Therefore, I think there are posts that you made that I cannot find.

    Nope, many of them are still right here, in fact relevant threads (e.g. “disrespectful words“) are still right there in the “Recent Posts“ section listed on the KD main page. I mean, you have to try a little bit man. In the future you can just put ‘[search term] site:www.knicksdefense.com’ in your google search bar and wa-la you get a starting point.

    Anyway, you quoted a few sentences of my comments re race-based insults in your lovely post to me called “More Folly Chronicles” (#8 in the thread). You don’t have to scratch your head in deep thought, just go back to what you wrote yourself!

    I specifically recall a post where you supported the deletion of the N-word and another post where you specifically suggested that anyone who could not write without using those words should find somewhere else to post. I also remember you tossing the ACLU around like a bad acronym at anyone who cited freedom of speech as an argument against banning any word. I don’t recall whether you instigated the Peaceman episode, but I believe you did under the theory that the “word” was inappropriate because it was “hurtful” or “harmful.” So I am pretty sure that, despite the absence of a supporting record, that you advised us that you opposed the use of the “N-word” on this site because it was harmful.

    Now you know how to find the ‘ACLU’ quote now, along with the others that are still kickin around.

    Was the above, the “crock” of your argument? O’k so here we go again with you pointing to the “crock” of your argument, like your main point is a camouflage for all those “minor” points you make or insinuate. It appears that your favorite argument is to avoid the argument. (LOL).

    No, the crux of my argument was about the whole class of race-based insults, so in so far as banning the n-word fits in with that, I’m in full support of it. I mean the whole idea of anybody-can-be-a-nword/wop/[insert your favourite culture slur here] is on its face ridiculous to me. In any event, in an open forum like this i’m thinkin guys oughta realize that not everybody will share that obviously rare viewpoint and avoid such weaponry.

    Anyway the references don’t really matter because I was just curious how you were going to address the issue. And you kindly addressed the issue by referring to the “Pman incident,” which was not part of the question, while conceding that banning the N-word was “related” to your point but not the “crux” of your argument.

    Yes, let’s get back to the point at hand, namely:
    In the raptors at knicks thread (#171) LIPSS (Lives In a Perpetual State of Snit) said:

    ”Ah, great “Conundrum Master”, CharleyF

    How do you reconcile your strong opposition to the use of the commonly accepted derogatory version of “Negro” as a response in a verbal battle with your support of Zach’s responding to a verbal battle by throwing a cup of water on someone? [my bold]

    Easy. From where I sit, they’re not the same thing. And as for “supporting” zbo, see the first paragraph of my response in the trade deadline is today thread (#131). If it rose to the level of Zbo swinging fists in response to the words (and, I repeat, we don’t know what was said, or know the history/dynamic between these two), breaking into a brawl that forced patrons to back the eff up, then I think that’s obviously a gross reaction to N8. As I said, for me, a cup of water for N8’s transgression is about a wash. If you’re equating zbo’s reaction in that instance to pman’s reaction to the troll (or saying that zbo’s case was far worse) then we’ll have to agree to disagree re that comparison.

    You also dismissed the Z-Bo incident by referencing, without detail, how I “framed” the question instead of dealing with the issue. How, I “framed” the question? Talk about chewing on a red herring. So, your response to the conundrum is clear and clearly follows your pattern of “false dialectic” which I believe would not be dialectical at all. Thank you working through your musical disappointment and offering a response to my query.

    I aimed to give the zbo-n8 bruharhar full context. Say you gots a friend with two kids in their early teens. They’re both “fiery” sorts. The older one has a harelip he’s pretty sensitive about but he’s clearly the better at sports. The other doesn’t have a harelip but he’s not as good at sports. Your friend tells you about how one time the two of em were playing a game and got into some sort of squabble, wherein the younger one teased the older one about his harelip and in response the older one pitched a cup of water at the younger one. How upset are you over hearing this tale (beyond feelin sorry for your friend)?
    Now let’s say you’re having a lil party at your house, you know most there, but some you don’t. The kids (yours an your guests’) are off in a bedroom playin a video game or somethin. Alla sudden you hear one of em screamin at the top of his lungs, “[NWORD]!!!!!! [NWORD]!!! [NWORD]!!!!!” Are you embarrassed as all get out if it turns out it was your kid reacting to a guest’s kid’s teasin?

    Do you feel as badly for your friend’s kids (case#1) as your own(case#2)? For me, it’s not the same at all.
    Earlier in the season Zeke had to be physically restrained from going after QRich. There was no hue and cry over that and there should be less over this.
    Nobody is admitting that the if it were Rockstar who went off on a nword tirade there wouldn’t be this same shrug and commentary about free speech. We’d rightfully be pretty damned pissed about it. Because pman is an elder, he gets a big pass. So it def matters WHO is committing the “offense,” that should be in the calculus, but just because he’s a friend don’t mean you should let him go buck wild at your party, freakin out all your guests. Jus’ sayin.

    (I was so impressed with your argument however that after I “framed” it, I called the Director of the Lourve and suggested that they start a wing with your creation. They asked who you were and I told them one of the greatest bullshyte artists in American history. I think they are going to check your work out and ask for the opinion of dung master Chris Ofili. Paris here we come).

    Pot, meet kettle.

    “Conundrum Master,” I also recall you inferring that I was disingenuous in a post which I responded to by advising you such language was more offensive to me than the “N-word.” I don’t recall a response.

    oh, but I DID respond (too much skip-passing, friend). now that you know the google trick, you can find it yourself.

    But I do know that your rationale for banning the “N-word” is bogus, if not disingenuous

    Oh, what, because you say so? Because you can drop a nice pre-game writeup in well-crafted prose? Is that why? CooleyHigh sez I worked behind the scenes to get the n-word ban in place and it’s true just b/c he can quote some mean scripture? Because he’s an “elder?”Elder means sayin shit w/o even trying to back it up? Elderhood is supposed to be about wisdom and patience; somea y’all need to go back to elder school.


    just funny that the arrogance and self-righteousness that’s ascribed to my writing you do not see in your own.

    Did I tell you that I am at least ½ black? And I gotta tell you that the Black in me takes great umbrage at being compared to a monkey (cheeky or erudite) – you do know that referring to a Black man as a “Monkey” is not much of an improvement, if any, over calling him a “N-word.” But you did know that, didn’t you NEGRO? (I’m playing nice.)

    what the hell?! ANOTHER half-black blogger in here? so, what’re we up to now, 155 of youse? man, what’re the odds (long), but it does colour in a lot more of that tribal dna. hm. interesting.
    anyway, as a fully Black man (ain’t no half-mixin, no mistakin me for ’sicillian” or anythin else), I too would take umbrage at being called a monkey. I imagine any person would, but I’m glad to see you recognize there’s a special history behind certain words that will take a long while yet to overcome.


    for what it’s worth, I meant no racial disrespect at all (as a Black dude who cringes at the use of the nword, that would make sense, right?). I meant it 100% purely in it’s usual colloquial sense, that you were being purposefully, well, cheeky. I’ve never used the term or interpreted it in any other way (and this is the first time i’ve heard it interpreted that way).


    this kinda reminds me of that classic uncomfortable situation where you’re talkin with some White dude who finds occasion to look you dead in the eye talmbout, “just callin a spade a spade,” and grins. in your head you’re all, “WTF?! Did he MEAN some shit?!” but since it kinda flows with the convo you feel like you gotta let it slide til you get more evidence. Well, this ain’t that.


    now, if you really mean it when you say you took it as a racial slur, I APOLOGIZE (omfg, my balls didn’t fall off! wshew!!). there was no intent to pitch a racial slur at you and I had no idea it was common enough (??) to see it that way. however, if you didn’t really mean it and just took it as an opportunity to continue with your indignant cheek act, well you can kiss my brown eye.

    (For the record, all those other races and nationalities that make up the rest of me also find the reference disrespectful and disparaging).

    Anyway, the bottom line is this: you’re dull of . . . . contradictions and any claim by you that you are opposed to harmful language like nigro on principle is clearly not based on any solid principle.

    Lives, you see what you want to see, as far as your ego and charity will allow.

    By Charles Follymacher on Feb 26, 2008 at 3:37 pm

  99. dammit, johnQ, you beat me to it. dnice is done. alright affy, guess i’ll be buyin the first policy. i need coverage for blog infatuation.

    By Charles Follymacher on Feb 26, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  100. Bronxboy,

    I’m sure u know the deal better than me to whom the the Knicks should pick as their next point guard.

    I know we need a good point guard—the likes of a Chris Paul or Deron Williams would be nice.

    By ANTI- NYSN on Feb 26, 2008 at 3:46 pm

  101. Charles Follymacher VS Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York

    Round whatever…I know I got my popcorn ready!!!!

    (bell sound) DING!!!!

    By ANTI- NYSN on Feb 26, 2008 at 3:55 pm

  102. Re: #97 - I reaaaaalllly regret reading that one. 15 minutes of my life gone. Where the hell is the skip pass button?

    By Jay Bee on Feb 26, 2008 at 4:11 pm

  103. Yo Jay Bee, is Dis ChuckFM ! Check it!

    Christian Leaders Blame Folly Scandal On “Radical Gay Rights Movement,” “Political Correctness,” “Tolerance and Diversity”
    Posted by Jennifer Siegel, October 3, 2006, 3:09 pm
    The Forward just received a statement from a coalition of conservative Christian leaders that expresses outrage over the Charles Folly scandal and calls for a full investigation, not the least because:

    “We are very concerned that the early warnings of Mr. Folly’s odd behavior toward young male pages may have been overlooked or treated with deference, fearing a backlash from the radical gay rights movement because of Mr. Foley’s sexual orientation. It appears that the integrity of the conservative majority has given way to political correctness, trading the virtues of decency and respect for that of tolerance and diversity.”

    Yo dis guy is famous!! Respeck! Westside, LOL

    By Ali G on Feb 26, 2008 at 4:37 pm

  104. Yao has a broken foot; out for the season.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3265631

    By HarleminMD on Feb 26, 2008 at 6:02 pm

  105. wow. that’s a tough one for the rockets. they have been playing so well too with 13 in a row or something like that. tragic.

    By knicksdefense on Feb 26, 2008 at 6:37 pm

  106. Reminiscent of the Ewing wrist.
    I’m still analyzing the double entendre from those comments by BOTH Stern and Dolan and that useful piece submitted by Tman.
    Steady will require the assistance of all the blog heavies. Be sure to keep a fair dose of conspiracy in the equation. ;-)

    KFLL

    By Steady on Feb 26, 2008 at 7:11 pm

  107. In the name of levity and to move the fuck on–to the Ws, this message is brought to you by the chartered members of the Blow Me Club. Just tell ehrrybody…

    The Answer to Valentine’s Day

    Every 14th of February you get the chance to display your fondness for your wife or girlfriend by showering her with gifts, flowers, dinner, shows and any other baubles that women find romantic.

    Secretly… guys feel left out. That’s right…left out. There’s no special holiday for the ladies to show their appreciation for the men in their life. Men as a whole are either too proud or just too embarrassed to admit it. This is why a new holiday has been created.

    March 20th is now officially a Steak, Blow Job & Shut Your Mouth Day. Simple, effective and self-explanatory…this holiday has been created so you ladies can have a day to show your man just how much you love him.

    No cards, no flowers, no special nights on the town. The name of the holiday explains it all…just a steak, a BJ & shut your mouth for the rest of the day! That’s it! This twin pairing of Valentines Day and Steak, Blow Job & Shut Your Mouth Day will usher in a new age of love as men everywhere will try THAT much harder in February to ensure a more memorable March! It’s like a perpetual love machine.

    The word is already spreading, but as with any new idea, it needs a little push to start the ball rolling.

    So spread the word, and help bring love and peace to this crazy world.

    By Steady on Feb 26, 2008 at 8:10 pm

  108. http://www.steakandbjday.com. i’ve been hearing about this thing for a couple years now. not much traction in my abode. i bow to the dude who has such an agreeable (compliant?) wife/gf.

    By Charles Follymacher on Feb 26, 2008 at 9:11 pm

  109. Follymach,

    Whadup wit dis?

    “What the hell?! ANOTHER half-black blogger in here? so, what’re we up to now, 155 of youse? man, what’re the odds (long), but[...]”

    ” it does colour in a lot more of that tribal dna. hm. interesting.”

    Is this a veiled slight at the only defender who speaks an actual language of the americas?

    I’m hurt mortaly wounded, I’ll be needing phsycological grief counseling to cope with the slight.

    how will I ever write a line in this blog going foward?

    Hey Steady and Folly

    what if you gave up red meat what could you substitute for steak on that Steakblowme-&-STFU day?

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:18 pm

  110. Hey isn’t it the case with the Rockets that it’s either Yao or Tracy that are always getting hurt sometime during the year.

    Fuck em, they beat the Knicks twice they can rot with their broken down tandem.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha!

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:19 pm

  111. Anti

    I read that PG preview from RealGM, you hooked us up wit.

    I’m really jonesing for the Knicks to nab Rose.

    The Knicks are the headless ballteam and we need to get an orchestrator in with some quickness.

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:21 pm

  112. Yo follymach

    It is a good point what you said about all of us here having to back up what we talking bout!

    Maybe it’s me but I think the U.S. sensitivity to certain words isn’t as delicate as that of Canada’s.

    I mean kids throw offensive words around on playgrounds, sorta like tease words.

    Perhaps I’m a little more immune. Don’t know whether that’s a good thing or bad thing.

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:24 pm

  113. @195
    Use JB.
    Just Bloggin’ covers all bunk.

    O&B–You can use salmon, tuna or tofu steaks.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:55 pm

  114. Good morning Defenders. I just love waking up. The possibilities for good are endless, starting with the first breath and the first thought in my mind. It’s all good.

    Morning KD. Today is very tight so I’m not sure I can break off a little Hawk intel. I would like to since we have four games to play against them but I think I waited to long. I see CF has provided a lengthy offering, but I’ll have to make amends for encouraging it by making a B-Ball post (instead of a B-Ball related post) my next joint.

    Jay Bee at #101. Thanks for the heads-up bro. You know I had to read what I could read quickly first. Some people can’t take a joke.

    Damn Anti, Folleymach v. Lives. Shoot, Uncle, I mean, “Monkey’s Uncle,” I mean I give up man, because Folly already delivered a knock out blow if you make him the head-liner. Sheeeesh. You’re getting popcorn for a petulant rook against an egotistical pro. That means I already got the beat down. Dag.

    I was LMAO, especially since I peeped CF’s reference to my super-sized ego at the end of his post. That’s so freakin’ funny; all my life whenever I refuse to bow down and submit to anyone that requires an enormous amount of stroking they resort to accusing me of having an ego on steroids. Funk it then. I want to end this issue now. I reuse to go down like Roger Clemens, who still isn’t getting beat down as bad as Barry Bonds. I will go the way of Petite and Giambi. I ADMIT TO TAKING STEROIDS FOR MY EGO. I AM SORRY. BUT WHAT IS AN AT-LEAST-HALF-BLACK MAN TO DO IN AMERICA TO KEEP UP WITH THE COMPETITION. I was at this party at Mario Cuomo’s house and I do remember holding court with Jesse Jackson, Barry Bonds and Bryant Gumbel. I remember Bryant’s wife was showing Barry’s wife the tat on her tit and we were all just a little toasted and cracking up. The Jesse told us about his planned book, “The Audacity To Think Highly Of One’s Self,” and he told us about this ego enhancer he uses. Well, the rest is what it is. But, I apologize. I WAS NOT TRYING TO GET AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. I was just trying to catch up. I’m sorry, apparently I took too much.

    Cooley. I love you brother man. I just sent up a special prayer for you and the Defenders. I’m feeling the Acela. Look out for a personal message. KD knows whats good.

    Steady you’re a bad boy. But check this out. My wife said tell Hallmark to create a card and she’ll get with the program. Shoot, I got Publisher 2003 and some paper. . . .I’m on it.

    Good Morning Mr. Hahn. I hope you’re doing well. I see you’re keeping your readers on top of things, maybe just a step slower than the Defenders here but you know what’s good. I just checked you out and I see you are giving the Defenders mad props without actually saying so. Imitation is the best form of flattery.

    Ali-G, you’ve been cracking me up. Tell Peace to give me a shout out. Tell Peace I think Alan referenced the same pre-NBA scouting report about Curry that he posted here.

    African, where are you? Did you see your boy D-Nice is on his way to GEICO.

    Morning O&B. KD has me watching Rose and Beasley. Without a major free agent signing or a trade, we are probably in for another 33 win season next year with either of those guys as rooks. Beasley’s defense scares me, but I guess we would take Carmelo Anthony if he were available, so what’s another non-Defender among non-Defenders? I’ve got to watch Rose more closely. I am interested in his decision making off the dribble. What is his shooting percentage 44%? That’s improvable with lots of practice. I think decision-making off the dribble is harder to improve on the fly if you’re already a shooter. WHile checking out Marcus WIlliams, you can see he is having a real problem with off-the-bounce moves. Unbelievable. He passes in the air quite a bit. I think Devon Harris may get that job, although Thorn really wanted to give it ot Williams. Anyway, the top of the draft doesn’t do a lot for me.

    I miss States with his cutting arsenal of jibber-jabber. It is no fun throwing out Marbury Jams without retort. I’ll have to resort to responding to myself again. But, I never expect to have that problem with my boy Folly.

    Folly babe. I. . . I. . . I want to start my response be saying. . . You win man. You are the stirring straw. The big Kahuna. . . .You are the King Defender. I give up my throne. Yes, that musty black bean-bag from 1979 in my basement is all yours. It’s time for me to get out of the basement and go upstairs. I’ll have to check out your LAP in total later, but it sounds like from the responses you really make some compelling arguments. So I offer my virtual concession. . . .

    It’s all done in love.

    Peace, Blessings and Have a Wonderful day defenders.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 27, 2008 at 6:01 am

  115. Whooooooa. Did I miss someting or what?

    Stephon Marbury can be a unrestricted free agent this summer? He has an “early termination option”?

    Can somebody explain?

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 27, 2008 at 6:27 am

  116. I meant to give you this reference regarding Available Free Agents

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 27, 2008 at 6:28 am

  117. Lives,

    I thought about headlining Folly in front of you—because I’m not one in making the underdog feel bad. It’s like me writing Folly VS Mike Tyson(in his hay day, or probably any day). A casual reader would take take as Folly a headliner, one to be reckoned with. A reader in the know—-who knows Mike Tyson—well do I really need to explain.

    Guess who’s Mike Tyson around these parts?
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    Soon guys I would like to be interviewing my fellow Defenders and post it on KD’s forum section.

    I recommend you Defenders to get Yahoo’s (IM) Instant Message and then add my name on your list: antinysn@yahoo.com

    Knicksdefense is the first person I would like to interview then Lives, and subsequent names after that.

    Thanks for the partcipation!!!

    By ANTI- NYSN on Feb 27, 2008 at 7:22 am

  118. Whadup yall

    Lives sometimes the path best taken is the one of least resistance.

    I’m glad you did that, now we don’t have to talk about dialectics and Kantian discourses and the like.

    You saved us from all that.

    Good response!

    Anyhow.

    The Daily Sleuth is up to their old gambit on speculating on the future of the Knicks.

    This time they have Kiki Vandeweghe as the lead horse to replace Isiah as GM of the organization.

    The replacements in Kiki’s domain have also been speculated.

    Them boys at the Sleuth must love that crystal bong!

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 27, 2008 at 7:24 am

  119. OBTW

    here is the link.

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 27, 2008 at 7:26 am

  120. New York Knicks - Daily Webs

    Gus Johnson Hosts 3rd Annual SportsTrivia Night

    Somebody get Bill in here to fix Knicks

    Jay-Z recruiting LBJ. (Yahoo Sports)

    Today in NY: WTC anniversary, Knicks Poetry Slam

    By Syd on Feb 27, 2008 at 8:51 am

  121. The drink don’t pick the straw.Oh, oh, Steph got caught… again.Post pg.11

    By Tman on Feb 27, 2008 at 9:34 am

  122. Lives, from my perspective, I made an effort to be concilliatory in tone (geez, why’d it take me so long to figure out how to link to the exact comment instead of the whole danged thread?! duh!), even straight up admitting my bias and then just when I’m thinkin things are cool (esp after our previous exchange of love letters detente), I get the ol brick-in-the-velvet-glove treatment. So, of course, it’s on all over again.

    I’m definitely more lover than fighter, but there hasn’t been a day yet where I’ve woken up, yawned and then thought to myself, “ahh, wot a great day to be a punk!” Not yet. Not yet. I’m no headliner, but I’ll swing if swung at. I mean, dude, just what did you expect?

    It amazes me comes as no surprise that you now roll into the who-me mode talmbout, “all my life whenever I refuse to bow down and submit to anyone that requires an enormous amount of stroking,” as if you wuz just mindin your own bidniz, surreptitiously ogglin mrs. bryant’s titties when some brown-skinneded brute lumbered over to you and knocked the henny out ya hand.

    Not so, m’man. Stick to the masterful pre-game raps Lives, cuz your post-game review walks with a tilt.

    Anti, we’re Rocky (Lives) an Hulk Hogan (me) — I may look menacing, but in the end there’s no way I lose to the popular champ. It’s all an exhibition.

    O&B, as others have pointed out it’s not easy to make sweeping generalizations about a people, but I think it’s a fair characterization that Canadians IN GENERAL are less confrontational than Americans, if not less sensitive. But, hey, I wasn’t actually born on Canuck soil so you can unnerstan if i didn’t quite get all the way with the program ;-)

    By Charles Follymacher on Feb 27, 2008 at 9:41 am

  123. Good AM Defenders!

    It is a great morning and In my inner sanctum I hear sweet, sweet music.

    @Anti, you’re a funny dude and we miss you when you disappear…You Crack Me Up

    @ROCK STEADY, thank you for sharing a portion of the Blow Me Club’s Mission Statement…Defenders, If you can get your Significant others to agree to participate in Steak, BJ (Directly after you lie in the fetal position, that is why the next part is critical), Shut Your Mouth Day, ROCK STEADY will release to you the Club’s Vision Statement. Once you see that piece you’ll really bust a nutt…Sorry I meanrt Gutt…LOL LOL LOL This Shyte is so exciting sometimes…I lose control…OOOOOPPPPS

    @LIVES, the skip pass, bounce pass, two hand chest pass, the outlet pass, and in this instance, the NO LOOK PASS is very applicable…My Good Man, never fall for the Ole Tongue & Cheek Colonialist Shell Game…Just ask the Native Americans!

    Defenders, in an effort to keeping the THREAD light and humurous, here are some Real Management Tips for you!
    Take copious notes and enjoy……………………

    MINUTE MANAGEMENT COURSE - A little Humor for Monday!!!

    Lesson 1:

    A man is getting into the shower as his wife is getting out, when the doorbell rings. She quickly wraps herself in a towel and runs downstairs.

    She opens the door to Bob, the next door neighbor. Before she says a word, Bob says, “I’ll give you $800 to drop that towel.”

    After thinking for a moment, she drops it and stands naked in front of Bob.
    After a few seconds, Bob hands her $800 and leaves.

    Wrapping herself in the towel, as she gets to the bathroom, her husband
    asks: “Who was that?”

    “It was Bob the next door neighbor”she replies.

    “Great!” the husband says, “did he say anything about the $800 he owes me?”

    Moral of the story:

    If you share critical information pertaining to credit and risk with your shareholders (and Management team), in time, you may be in a position to prevent avoidable exposure.

    Lesson 2:

    A priest offered a Nun a lift. As she sat in the car, she could not help but reveal a leg. The priest nearly had an accident. After controlling the car, he stealthily slid his hand up her leg.

    The nun said, “Father, remember Psalm 129?” He removed his hand. But, changing gears, he let his hand slide up her leg again.

    The nun once again said, “Father, remember Psalm 129?”

    The priest apologized “Sorry sister but the flesh is weak.” Arriving at the convent, the nun went on her way. On his arrival at the church, the priest rushed to look up Psalm 129. It said, “Go forth and seek, further up, you will find glory.”

    Moral of the story:

    If you are not well informed in your job, you might miss a great opportunity.

    Lesson 3:

    A sales rep, an administration clerk and their manager are walking to lunch when they find an antique oil lamp. They rub it and a Genie pops out. The Genie says, “I’ll give each of you just one wish”.

    “Me first! Me first!” says the admin clerk. “I want to be in the Bahamas, driving a speedboat, without a care in the world.” Puff! She’s gone.

    “Me next! Me next!” says the sales rep. “I want to be in Hawaii, relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse, an endless supply of Pina Coladas and the love of my life.” Puff! He’s gone.

    “OK, you’re up,” the Genie says to the manager. The manager says, “I want those two back in the office after lunch”.

    Moral of the story:

    Always let your boss have the first say.

    Lesson 4:

    An eagle was sitting on a tree resting, doing nothing. A small rabbit saw the eagle and asked him, “Can I also sit like you and do nothing?” The eagle
    answered: “Sure, why not.”

    So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the eagle and rested. All of a sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it.

    Moral of the story:

    To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high up.

    Lesson 5:

    A turkey was chatting with a bull. “I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree,” sighed the turkey, “but I haven’t got the energy.” “Well, why don’t you nibble on some of my droppings?” replied the bull. “They’re packed with nutrients.”

    The turkey pecked at a lump of dung, and found it actually gave him enough strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree.

    The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch.
    Finally, after a� fourth night, the turkey was proudly perched at the top of the tree. He was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot him out of the tree.

    Moral of the story:

    Bullshit might get you to the top, but it won’t keep you there.

    Lesson 6:

    A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird froze and fell to the ground in a large field. While he was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on him. As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to realize how warm he was. The dung was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy.

    A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him.

    Moral of the story:

    1. Not everyone who shits on you is your enemy.

    2. Not everyone who gets you out of shit is your friend.

    3. And when you’re in deep shit, it’s best to keep your mouth shut!

    Have a productive and constructive day DEFENDERS!

    Keep it POPPIN

    By Cooleyhigh on Feb 27, 2008 at 10:11 am

  124. LMAO @ those “Pearls of Wisdom” dropped on us (no pun intended…lol) @ post #122.

    Homie, you’re wisdom knows NO BOUNDS…..

    I ask that YOU KEEP EM’ POPPIN!!!!!

    By Bronxboy in Md on Feb 27, 2008 at 11:07 am

  125. steak ‘n’ BJ ‘n’ STFU day only cums once a year boys, so make it last longer’n three minutes ;-)

    By Charles Follymacher on Feb 27, 2008 at 11:13 am

  126. @122. :) Words for the wise - Good Stuff!!!!!

    By Syd on Feb 27, 2008 at 11:33 am

  127. Cooleyhigh,

    and you call me funny!!!! lol

    By ANTI- NYSN on Feb 27, 2008 at 12:19 pm

  128. http://knicks.realgm.com/articles/19/20080225/knicks_draft_outlook_point_guards/

    By knicksdefense on Feb 27, 2008 at 12:46 pm

  129. KDJakes Cooleyhigh,
    I see that’s how ya scroll when the Force is wit ya.
    Useful and witty. Very witty. Especially Lesson 6–Resolved.

    Let’s GTW 2nite Defenders.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Feb 27, 2008 at 1:27 pm

  130. Those lessons were very funny.

    Especially the last two about shit and bullshit.

    Steady

    Thanks for the input regarding the steak BJ & STFU day.

    I” gladly substitute bufalo meat, snake meat or mebbe even Llama heart instead.

    By Orange and Blue on Feb 27, 2008 at 1:31 pm

  131. Gentlemen, you know how to start a Defenders day, good vibrations and good libations (Thank you Tman, but talk about a pick-pocketing man-hug.:) )Cooley, that was so hilarious, it helped me laugh all the way to the office and back this morning. Anti,he’s right, we do miss you. St. George and Post-Up are among the missed too. I blame Monty and Dolan for the MIAs. Messed up a good season. . . .

    Thank you gents, some good and useful confirmations, affirmations and information this morning. Later.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 27, 2008 at 1:34 pm

  132. I was just about to write a little bit and I see that tonight is Charlotte and Friday is Atlanta. I don’t think Gerald Wallace is back. I feel for him.

    I feel for Yao too. Actually, it’s the fans who will miss out because that West race was promising ot be really hot with at least four Championship caliber teams (Suns (need more time to simmer), Lakers (Bynum makes them scary), Houston (oh, well), Spurs (they’re just playing around),and maybe Dallas (Kidd is a wilfull mug, but he can’t clog up the middle and play like the center they really need). So that was going to be a good season ending war.

    Now I’m out for real.