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Knicks Vs. Pacers photo recap

I see some of the knicks defenders made it back from the Giant Superbowl hiatus, thanks for remembering Knicksdefense for all your knicks blogging fun.

We’re going to do something different, as I promised we would be trying new stuff in the days to come, this time it will be a photo blog recap of the most recent Knicks defeat to the Indiana Pacers tonight.

The good thing was Zach Randolph had the touch from three-point territory, hitting THREE three point shots, not too shabby for a power forward. The bad was of course that it was not enough to win the basketball game.

Watching this team is like watching the movie Groundhog’s day with Bill “ghost-bustin’ ass” Murray reliving the same experience every day. After the initial shock wears off, you come to expect certain things when you relive the same experiences AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN. In the Knicks case, that would be keeping up the whole game, even winning the game at times, just to let it go during the last few minutes of the fourth quarter. Yup.

So here we go, photo recap style:

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Knicks forward David Lee, happy about something in the first half.

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“keep Isiah” sign held up by a man wearing a Pacers jersey. Note that MSG security came over to have words with this dorky looking man. Also note the dude that got right in his grill for the cell phone documentation of it all.

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Knicks guard Jamal “J Chuck” Crawford. They don’t call him that for nothing. In the texas holdem world, J Chuck’s analogous playing style would be to play every hand, J Chuck would never fold his cards, not 7-deuce off-suit, not anything.  Jamal shot 5-17 from the field, that says it all.

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Knicks City Dancers. God bless them. Anybody see former Knicks City Dancer “Kim” on the new American Gladiators show two weeks ago? She did fairly well, all the way until the last obstacle course. When the first obstacle was climbing a ten foot rope wall, Kim was in trouble due to weak upper body strength. Her opponent finished the entire course before Kim got over that wall. By that point, it turned into a “moral victory” because she did not give up, and the crowd supported her Jim Valvanoesque, “never give up” spirit for finishing the game. Good for Kim.

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Knicks guard N8 Robinson doing some kind of amazingly athletic aerial maneuver.

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Renaldo Balkman and Coach Isiah Thomas having words on the sideline. Renaldo was a beast on the boards tonight leading all players with 12 rebounds. He also tallied three blocks against the pacers.

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Meet the press. I was going to trash this photo of nate casually bringing the ball up the court when I realized all the homeboys were in the background. Even from a distance it is very obvious they all chew gum very loudly. Guess it is just a New York Press kind of thing to do.

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Knicks forward David Lee throws it down from the baseline. That’s basically his spot. Kenny Smith claims it is five feet or less, but I’m going to say D Lee functions in particular along the baseline.

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Knicks forward Renaldo Balkman gets the shot block on the perimeter. Good hustle from “Taz” tonight.

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Knicks Center Eddy Curry catches a nice lob pass and finishes the lay-up.

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Knicks guard Jamal Crawford shoots over Pacers guard Travis Diener.

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Madison Square Garden’s new high-definition Jumbotron hanging above centercourt and some new baseline scoreboards along the perimeter below the 400 level. Thanks James Dolan.

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Tough coverage for Knicks center Eddy Curry with Indiana double-teaming his shot in the paint.

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Moments later on the next Knicks possession, Eddy Curry accelerates to the rim before the double-team arrives, laying up the ball for two points.

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Knicks in their zone defensive set. Note the seemingly huge gaps between the defense and the opponent. Space is not something you want to give a team that can shoot from the perimeter.

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After we left the game, we heard several people remark that the best part of the Knicks game was when the Giants came onto the court and woke the crowd up out of its deep slumber. In that moment, suddenly, the Garden was electric again.

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It was very odd to see Coach Isiah Thomas decide to play Mardy Collins heavy minutes in the second half, when I don’t recall him playing Collins at all during the first half. Isiah is now playing musical chairs, a tune perfected by his coaching predecessor, Larry Brown.

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The vast defensive gaps proved costly down the stretch for the Knicks. A semi-truck could do a u-turn through a gap that big. Just so you know, Murphy can hit that shot, as can most of the Pacers when left that wide open.

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Power forward Zach Randolph led the Knicks with 26 points and 9 rebounds in a losing effort.

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78 comments to Knicks Vs. Pacers photo recap

  1. ANTI- NYSN
    February 7th, 2008 at 2:32 am

    KnicksD,

    Beautiful bright pics and commentary—-keep up the good work!!!

    WriteOn!!!

  2. Opaque and Bruised
    February 7th, 2008 at 7:00 am

    Nice work KnicksD

    Too bad I can’t say the same about the team.

    They appear to be playing competitively but that has to result in wins or it becomes a demoralizig experience for fans and the players.

  3. Syd
    February 7th, 2008 at 7:16 am

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  4. D L T Knicks
    February 7th, 2008 at 7:32 am

    KnicksD

    Great Photos!!

    Next time can we see more of the KNICK CITY DANCERS? lol

    Great work!!

  5. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:18 am

    Is the Playoff window closed for the Knicks?
    YES…if we don’t make the obvious trades! NO,,if we do!

    6th seed Wizards: 24-24
    7th seed ATL: 21-24
    8th seed Nets: 20-29
    Pacers: 20-30
    Bulls: 19-29
    76′S: 19-30
    Bucks: 19-31
    Charlotte: 18-31
    Knicks: unprintable
    Heat: Ping Pong Ball collectors!

    I will agree if we stay pat…we will be worse than Larry Brown’s Knicks!
    We need to trade NOW,,bring Artest home and get Marbury off the shrink’s couch,
    and back into our lineup with Artest running the show!
    Truth be told, Marbury’s “bone spurs” being the truth is like saying Curry
    is the Best Rebounder in the league! That is the truth and plain out simple choices!
    Make the changes now or settle for another 7th pick like Frye!

  6. JohnQ
    February 7th, 2008 at 9:22 am

    very nice pics KD.

  7. Bronxboy in Md
    February 7th, 2008 at 9:29 am

    KnicksD..

    Very nice pics…you do great work, bruh!!

  8. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 11:56 am

    Hey Terry you Rockstar…quit while your ahead….I know who you are!
    Don’t be late with my delivery order. BTW…tell your Mother no thanks…I don’t eat pork!

  9. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Like I stated prior…until the Math says we are finished I will root
    for this team! It’s called being a fan! I didn’t ask or give a shit about Terry’s unwanted
    responds! The Nets are 20-29 and in 8th seed and about to lose kidd. Terry is the kind of
    Rockstar that would have suggested the Giants quit after starting 0-2! I’m going to
    stop responding to him because I still want to keep boneing his sister!

  10. knicksdefense
    February 7th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    there are certain individuals out there that wish to bring this website down.
    you’d think we know that by now and stay above their level by simply ignoring them.
    i call them “freedom haters,” because they hate freedom.

  11. Opaque and Bruised!
    February 7th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    I like Peaceman

    Rebellious and upbeat to the end.

    That’s how my man Tupac Amaru was!

    Eres mi gente!

    Que se chingan los melosos!

  12. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    KnicksD and B&B,

    what do these Rockstars want a real fan to do? Trash your team when their down?
    It’s easy to be a fan when your 42-11. During the summer everyone was upbeat about these
    Knicks. ALL OF US! What hurts the most is the last 7 games could have just as easily been
    a 7 game win streak! We had the lead every game! To reiterate my prior post, this current Knick team
    is going NO WHERE. We Need to trade! One simple trade, not blow up the team! We need Artest’s swagger and it will rub off on the rest of the team
    especially on the defensive end! We get Artest and watch a healthy and upbeat Marbury return with a vengence.
    That happens and that 6 game lead the Nets have on us from 8th seed will dissapear faster Rudy’s run for President!

  13. African
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Peace:
    Are you in therapy?
    You only had “Artest” twice in the last post!
    That couch is doing wonders for you bro!
    Don’t miss any sessions please.
    We wouldn’t want you to be begging for Artest in every post!

  14. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    LOL African..if begging gets him here, I’ll show Dolan some Bass rifs and beg him!
    When he gets here…you will see what I’m talking about!

  15. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    African,
    I am in therapy with Dr. ed drossman!
    He says it’s ok to beg for Artest!

  16. Statesman
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    DEE-FENDERS,

    KnicksD, great pictures, some good stuff. I am curious to why you do not believe in CENSORSHIP, but yet
    you have eliminated post. Is it okay to use the N-Word,and refer to Pacers as those Funny Looking
    White Boys? DEE-FENDERS are becoming O-FENDERS. I see a PANDORA BOX opening. Hopefully KnicksD you will
    shut the door. The biggest challenge in OVERCOMING the devil, is not BECOMING the devil.

    5(W)&9(L)with the Spurs on their way, since the CANCER has been removed. I remember reading one of the ELDERS
    writing that the Knicks were better w/o Steph. According to the ELDER the players were happy, the environment was
    better, and this was Crawford’s team. We were told that Crawford and N8 could handle the point-guard duties,
    and the team would start to Win.

    14 Games Later–Is the team better off with or without a CRAZY Steph?, Who in their RIGHT-MIND would believe
    that an individual that has been in the league 8-years and never reached the playoffs, or played on a team
    that won 40 games would make you a WINNER?

    CRAWFUL,
    The last 8-games Crawful has shot 35/168 for 34.5%, (Anti, not even 40%). That is an average of 21-SHOTS PER GAME.
    As the keys to the team have been given to Crawful, we NOW know why Steph kept the ball from him.
    Crawful is a GUNSLINGER that could not shoot himself out of a paper bag. Big-Shot Jamal(an Urban Myth),
    is a one-on-one street-baller that would do well w/ AND1. Crawful is the back-court version of Curry.
    He shoots, and that is it. You get nothing else. But you give him the keys to the Garden.
    BronxBoy, tell me how stats are not important,-Real Ballers Know it is more than Stats(34.5%)
    Anti-Explain why Crawful is in the same sentence w/ KOBE,DWADE, and not on your X-BOX.
    ‘LIVES’, please explain how the team is better w/o Steph? How Crawful would lead this team from the point, and the
    6 games following the West Coast would be positive. Fellas do this before you hit the GANJA.

    NOTE-I am not a Steph fan. I just KNEW he was the best guard on THIS Knick team, AND CRAWFUL & N8 are subs
    at best.

    African, the Suns acquired Shaq, not to score, but to play physical inside, to play interior defense
    to rebound, and to be a 3rd option on offense. Please explain how this VALIDATES Curry, since he only scores.
    You are reaching bro.

    Peace & Blessings

  17. African
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    lol.
    No matter what they say Peace, you’re my nigga! oops!
    I said the “N” word!
    Keep hope alive.
    Say hi to Dr. Dross for me.
    I’m sure he’s doing much better now since he’s not getting hammered on a daily basis.

  18. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Statesman
    You believe in the Devil…thats your religious right!
    Don’t force your religious beliefs on others! I don’t believe in the Devil!

    My take on Marbury is bring him back if he’s healthy in MIND and body!
    He may be humbled. Everyone in life get’s humbled one time or another!

  19. Statesman
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Peaceman,

    I am not attempting to force my religious beliefs on anyone. It appears that you are FORCING
    your belief in ARTEST on everyone. Your Artest Plea sounds Religious. The Knicks need a point guard
    and a defensive presence in the hole, and you keep saying Artest.

    Why would Steph be humbled now? The team has continued to lose, and Isiah attempt to make him
    the ScapeGoat has backfired. If Steph came back now it would only help Isiah. Why would he do that?

    Peaceman, KEEP PRAYING FOR ARTEST.

    Peace & Artest

  20. African
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    States:
    I thought better of you.
    You read my post and came away with the conclusion that I think the Suns acquired Shack for scoring?
    You’re better than that! As Mark would say.
    The power game in not necessarily scoring.
    It’s controling the tempo in an every-posession-count post season.
    Yes, Shack would score, but only when he’s not doubled.
    It’s about getting good shots in the half court set.
    Kerr realized that phoenix would never win with that gunslinging style.
    Yes they would still run, but when the defense gets back, it’s time to set their half court set.
    That’s where Shack comes in. It’s about getting better shots.
    That’s what the showtime Lakers did with Kareem. He was probably over forty at that time.
    Where does Cury come in you ask?
    It works the same way.
    The reason these Knicks are losing, is because of Craw and Zach.
    It’s called shot selection, and they both don’t know the difference between a good one and a bad one.
    They both don’t know when to run the clock and play for a good shot.
    They believe any daylight is a good time to jack one, no matter what the game situation is.
    Every team needs a post player to throw the ball to, in order to control tempo.
    The team should get the ball to Curry in the post, not just to score, but to get good shots late in the game.
    At this stage, Curry is not the best passer from the post, but we do have a very good post presence.
    We’ll continue to blow leads in the fourth, if the current philosophy continues.

  21. knicksdefense
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    i knew somebody would say bring that up, thought it would be follymacher but STATESMAN beat you to the punch.

    as i just explained certain individuals are trying to make this blog fail. their IP’s give them away every time though they may change their names. they keep trying and its just amazing that they would focus on hate when this site was born out of love. (though you know I’m guilty of hating with the way it has gone down this year, but that is neither here nor there).

    Peaceman is somebody that i know is down with this site and somebody i consider to be a friend. All of you regulars i consider to be a friend, even if we don’t agree, even if we use different words. you are the reason this is the number one knicks blog in NYC, i am not going to censor the words of a friend that i known means no harm, though if you look back i completely disagreed with the use of that word, and have said more than once that i’ll never use it.

    but i am going to take out certain enemies of this website without hesitation. LGM, Mark, Tom (by the way that was tom today, not Terry or Tim or another bs name but Tom), and any new ones that will spring up like the weeds in my backyard. it is some childish crap that i have to deal with because i want this site to succeed and not fail.

    if anyone considers me a racist now or in the future, i hope have the balls to just say it. i am multi-racial and identify with no single race, for the record.

  22. Statesman
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    African,

    Kareem & Curry in the same sentence, puleease. Kareem could pass, you state Curry can’t pass
    so that kills your argument. He can’t pass or recognize double teams. You cannot EFFECTIVELY run
    half court sets, if the Post player does not recognize double teams, and can’t pass from the post.
    Curry and he’s lost. African, you can only hope Curry learns to rebound. I have given up hoping he
    plays defense. This only leads to turnovers, your guy Curry specialty.

    Kerr recognized that they need better interior D. Does Curry come to mind? He realized that
    they needed to rebound better. Does Curry come to mind?

  23. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    That utter bullshit Statesman.
    Marbury made himself the scape goat by abandoning his team!
    Steph has had his ass kissed since high school! Everything he did
    even the bad, his suck ups would praise! Marbury is the most talented
    guard the knicks have, but if his tude sucks it translates to his
    on court play!

    I am not the only one
    who wants Artest on this team! Read a lot of other blogs and posts…
    I know damn well I’m not the only one! Marbury has never played with
    a player like Artest, who would kick his self centered ass for sitting with
    the towel and scowel while the team is on a run and he’s benched! Only to sit there
    with the scowel and not cheer his team on! I think every defender wants Artest on this team,
    the only division was to involve Lee in a trade! That is a Fact Mr. Censorship!

  24. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Thanks for the info KnicksD,
    Tom is angery that the Giants KICKED the PATS ASSES!
    They hit Brady so hard his future childeren are gonna have shaken infant syndrome!
    LOL the Pats got ther ass beat by NY TOM! LOL LOL!

  25. African
    February 7th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    States;
    They traded for Shack! Not Curry!
    My point was that we can develop what we have.
    When we do get to that point, we already have that piece.
    The difference is that you think Curry can’t improve. I think differently.
    Read my post again.
    The Kareem comment was in reference to Shack’s age with a running team.
    You’re trying so hard to shit on Curry, you’re sounding desperate.
    Where did I put the two together in the same sentence as a comparison?
    C’mon now States.
    Maybe I gave you too much credit. Your credit line is now $5.00
    REJUECTED!!!!

  26. knicksdefense
    February 7th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    21 games under .500 (14-35)

  27. knicksdefense
    February 7th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    from realgm.com

    New York Post -
    Isiah Thomas believes that the New York Knicks are too young, and it is hurting the team.

    According to the New York Post, before last night’s 103-100 loss to the Pacers Thomas said that being a young team is the reason why Knick fans are not seeing wins right now.

    “We’re really young,” Thomas said. “I don’t think we can get any younger.”

    According to The Post, the two youngest players in New York’s original starting five - are in their seventh seasons. The team’s average age is 25.6 years

  28. knicksdefense
    February 7th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    berman interviewed the guy with the “keep isiah” sign, take a look:

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/02072008/sports/knicks/bums_rush_isiah_makes_hasty_exit_after_l_861747.htm?page=1

  29. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Just like some of us predicted..KG is in Big trouble!
    Maybe thats why our Boston Rockstar needs to come here and
    disrupt this blog! After the Pats get their asses kicked by OUR NY Giants,
    KG’S Injury is being down played by Boston. They claim it’s an abdominal pull?
    It’s most likley a tear, which can take Months to heal! Plus the fact that he plays
    a power game is even worse…at 32 that is the softest and easyest muscle to reinjure!
    BYE BYE BOSTON AND YOUR CHIP! KG will not be half the player he was earlyer this year!
    Sucks to be you TOM cause we are used to loseing down here! LOL

  30. Statesman
    February 7th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    African,

    From a guy that called N8 Calvin Murphy, keep the credit. Now even Isiah says he needs a point,
    even w/ N8 here
    7-Years and you still have hope that he will get better. Why do you have hope? Is it Curry’s Work Ethic?
    Curry had low-post skills when he came to the Knicks. He avg.16pts in fewer min.w/ Bulls the year before.
    He had low-post skills in High School. What he could not do in High School or the Pros, is rebound,
    play D, or pass out of the Post.
    Analytical Eye, in what Areas have you seen Curry improve in his 3 years w/ the Knicks? 5-Rebounds/game
    is 5-Rebounds per game.

    African, don’t try and make Curry a victim. I’m not shitting on him. He has earned criticism.

    Peace, the Herd Mentality does not mean anything. 25 people can agree and all be wrong.
    Regarding Steph, most Pro athletes have been catered to since they were young. Most are
    self-centered, Artest included.

    Peace & Blessings

  31. cooleyhigh
    February 7th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Good PM Defenders!

    BOGZILLA, GREAT images my man. You continue to enhance the visual quality of the site and provide a platform for serious discussion. You work and efforts will not go in vain. Thanks again BLOGZILLA for all that you do….God Bless

    Keep it POPPIN!

  32. knicksdefense
    February 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    thanks cooley. I think I need some spiritual uplifting today homie.

  33. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Stateman, my fellow Defender!
    You are correct that 25 people can agree and it don’t mean nothing…
    but this blog has the best Basketball minds on the Net, you included,
    so stop talking out of BOTH sides of your mouth! Most catered to Athletes
    do not act like Marbury! Name a few Super Stars that have abandoned their team because they were told they
    we not going to start! That is one question that challenge you to find a “HERD” of answers!

    ME & Artest

  34. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    That = I…sorry!

    Me & ARTEST

  35. BARF
    February 7th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    “the two youngest players in New York’s original starting five - are in their seventh seasons”

    This argument bothers me most.

    Imagine Peaceman met this fine chick but, being that he’s married (hypothetically speaking cuz I mean no offense), he wants to introduce her to me(cuz he
    s a great guy like that). So I agree to meet her and report my findings to Peace.

    PEACE: So what did you think?
    BARF: You were right dude, she’s fine. Funny, sweet, smart…she’s got something.
    PEACE: Yeah boy!! I told you…you’re gonna owe me a long time for this one.
    BARF: Nah…she’s dope and all but…
    PEACE: BUT??? You’re a bitch!
    BARF: Man, that’s what I’m talking about. She’s got no BUTT.
    PEACE: Aw man. You can’t be serious!?
    BARF: Flat like dough without all the pizza ingredients. What can I say?
    PEACE: That ain’t right.
    BARF: She’ll be ok.
    PEACE: No, I mean you’re wrong. She’s been taking Salsa classes for like 4 years.
    BARF: Dude, her butt needs more than 4 years and a dream.
    PEACE: I’m saying, she’s on her way.
    BARF: I admit, Salsa’s better than nothing but what about the rice and beans?
    PEACE: She says loves Tex-Mex.
    BARF: Mexico’s is in Central America. Salsa’s Caribbean. You didn’t get the memo?
    PEACE: Very funny.
    BARF: My point is, there’s no substitution for rice and beans everyday and Salsa every night.
    PEACE: You got to give her time to develop.
    BARF: Dough-butt can have all the time she needs. I’m out!

    I happen to agree with Isiah and the roster’s youth. I’ve been saying it since the beginning of this horrendous year. With Steph going AWOL, Zach being better in the post (he fights harder for position thus he has more passes thrown to him), QRich’s early and long slump and Curry’s hibernation through what should have been a breakout year….the perfect storm hit.

    8 (or so) years of NBA experience aside, Curry needs more experience. He needs more big man coaching. He needs to hit up every big man camp in the offseason and work on defensive game. Let his wife cook him up some healthy meals at his Connecticut home while he scours the NBA for every big man camp. He really needs it if he’s ever going to round out to shape on the defensive end. Its a shame how well he can do with the ball in his hands in the post and how utterly useless he becomes on the defensive side of the ball.

    8 years of experience doesn’t trump the “Eddy’s young” argument. Youth means more than inexperienced. Had he stayed in college, this would be his what, third year?

    Jamal is still young too despite how many years he’s already been in the league. He’s about 2 years away from his “prime years”.

    I’d like to see Bobby Knight in charge of the coaching here. Isiah’s not cut out for both GM/Coach jobs here in this city. The media can either be you’re eyes and ears on the street or they can be knives in your back. And I just don’t trust Dolan to make a good decisions when it comes to basketball. I’d rather ride or die with Isiah than put the pressure back on Jimmy to get this franchise back on track.

    I think with time our young guys will get better, steph and malik’s contract will expire, the payroll number will come down, roster spots will be available for our rookies and the wins will come.

    But I doubt Isiah as coach will be a success. Would Bobby Knight want to coach in the NBA? Deal with NBA primadonnas? I doubt it.

  36. JohnQ
    February 7th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Great idea Af,

    Keep pushing the rock into fat boy so the other team can pack in on him and he turns it over. When Curry is used too much the other team catches on. Zeke isn’t smart enough to vary his game plan to make EC effective and Curry doesn’t have the heart or maybe the bball IQ it takes to put himself in position to be a better defender. Why do you give Eddie so much credit ?

  37. JohnQ
    February 7th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Barf,

    Isn’t the “he came right from HS” argument gettin ‘ a little old ? 8 years is 8 years. If he went to college, he would have opted out in his 1st or 2nd year, so he’d have 6 years right now. It shouldn’t take 6 years to develop a “workable” if not dominating defensive mindset. He doesn’t have it in him boys !!!!

  38. African
    February 7th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    JohnQ:
    To answer your question, because I’m dumb, blind and stupid.
    The alternative is to continue to feature Zach and Craw in the fourth.
    Jump shoot till you die. Let’s see how many we win.
    You live or die with jumpshooting. We’ve been dieing.
    Curry was 8-10 from the field and 4-6 from the line.

  39. JohnQ
    February 7th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    AF,

    Your argument would hold water if it wasn’t for one fact. How many points did he give back through turnovers, lazy D, no offensive rebounds, or his inability to box out ? Please include all of the above and reassess. What is his value now ?

    I’m not in favor of us being a jump shooting team. You are 100% right……….Live by the jumper, die by the jumper. We deffinitely need a force in the middle but I don’t think Eddie is that guy.

  40. Cooleyhigh
    February 7th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    BLOGZILLA, ask and it shall be given…Seek and ye Shall find…Knock and the Door will open…
    Anything for you my MAN…

    Today’s Quote
    God always gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.

    Today’s Scripture
    “A Spiritual Sage looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God” (Mark 10:27).

    Today’s Word
    With God all things are possible! Now that’s a very broad statement. But, it doesn’t mean you can just do anything you want. You have to get with God first. In order to get with God, or align yourself with Him, you have to obey His Word. You have to submit yourself to Him and His plan for your life. You must turn your back on your old life and your old way of doing things. When you are in agreement with God and His Word, then all things will be possible. When you make your thoughts agreeable to His Word, than your plans will be established and you will succeed! Make whatever changes are necessary in your life today so that you can align yourself with God. Don’t hang around people that will try to drag you down. Guard what you watch on TV and what you listen to. Be determined everyday to spend time in prayer and studying the Word. The Bible promises that as you draw near to God, He will draw near to you. As you are in agreement with God, all things will be possible for you, and you will live the life of victory He has planned for you!

    A Prayer for Today
    Heavenly Father, I want everything You have in store for me. Today I choose to align myself with You. Show me if there is anything in my life that is displeasing to You so that I can walk with You all of my days. Amen.

    Keep it POPPIN!

  41. African
    February 7th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    JohnQ:
    You’re talking out your ass.
    Go look at the box score.

  42. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    Isiah is talking out of his ass.
    Somebody please put this clown out of his misery.
    It’s getting rediculous now.

  43. Steady
    February 7th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    How can Monty talk about the youthful nature of this team and its players after he brought them all here? Did he forget he IS the GM as he talked out the side of his neck? Prolly not! He’s prolly setting up a script. The Avant-Propos to some addition by subtraction. Where’s Lives when one needs to corroborate a Just Bloggin’? :-) Everyone is having a field day because they can see he’s pulling straws and his 3-card trick is now stale. There’s caramel stains on the hot card.
    If a coach realizes/recognizes that he has a youthier team than the previous year, some questions should be answered:

    1. How “youthier” are the NYK and when did you know it?
    2. What do you do for/with a “youthier” team that you don’t do for/with OGs?
    3. Where do coaching, calling plays and motivation factor in the IT daily grind/process?
    4. Who is the great architect of the NYK and will he please stand up to the music?
    5. Do you really think that the NYK fans are that dumb because of the boos and the picket signs?

    And by the way Anti-, I dare you to answer any of these questions with 40%. In fact, the odds that you will answer any of these questions with 40% is 60% :-)

    DVJ,
    You take on the name Obama as an agent/advocate for CHANGE. With all due respect and kissy kissy love young bruh, your cloaked name here does the CANDIDATE Obama a major DISSERVICE since BARF called out DVJ. DVJ does not vie for credibility here and does not have any. DVJ waffles back and forth, one day calling Zach the BPOT and then on another day saying GROH (get rid of him). With such WAFFLIN’, you can very well take the name DaVonn William Jefferson. Enough people have (erroneously) called William Jefferson Clinton the first Black President. You W enough here to be that guy and leave CHANGE to Obama. But I love your passion’ though ;-)

    KFLL

  44. News man
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    So this is where all the fools who were famously wrong about Isiah Thomas and Knicks go to talk more gibberish about a subject they know nothing about. Also, girly lap top? How about the girl who takes a camera to the game and starts shooting away from the upper deck who has never been to a Knicks game before. What are you, a tourist? How pathetic. Also maybe you didn’t read the fine print on the ticket you scalped for $20 bucks but: “Any publication or reproduction without the express written consent of the NBA is strictly prohibited.” Guess what? You owe David Stern some money.

    Peace

  45. D L T Knicks
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    @Steady #43

    Write on my brother!

  46. D L T Knicks
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    This is For Peaceman .enjoy.

  47. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    Sorry I don’t remember BARF calling me out.

    The point is we need change.

    We need change fast!!!

    Call it what you want…”wafflin” but it still doesn’t negate the fact we need change.

    You can call me anything you want but broke.

    I appreciate it LOL.

    Isiah has lost his mind.
    He could get away with shit like that in Indiana but here in NY…we are the smartest fans in the world.
    Sorry Zeke….that excuse ain’t cuttin it with me or anybody else.

  48. Statesman
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    Steady,

    #45 is Hot!!!. I can only guess where Monty has put the card.

    DaVonn has CREDIBILITY. When he said this summer that the Knicks would not lose 25 games (winning 57),
    his Dyslexia was at work. What he was REALLY SAYIN is the Knicks would win 25 and lose 57.
    DVJ was the first to see the TRUTH!!!

    Peace & Artest

  49. Orange and Blue
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    LOL BARF love that bit about the chata sin nalgas!

    Imagine Peaceman met this fine chick but, being that he’s married (hypothetically speaking cuz I mean no offense), he wants to introduce her to me(cuz he
    s a great guy like that). So I agree to meet her and report my findings to Peace.

    PEACE: So what did you think?
    BARF: You were right dude, she’s fine. Funny, sweet, smart…she’s got something.
    PEACE: Yeah boy!! I told you…you’re gonna owe me a long time for this one.
    BARF: Nah…she’s dope and all but…
    PEACE: BUT??? You’re a bitch!
    BARF: Man, that’s what I’m talking about. She’s got no BUTT.
    PEACE: Aw man. You can’t be serious!?
    BARF: Flat like dough without all the pizza ingredients. What can I say?
    PEACE: That ain’t right.
    BARF: She’ll be ok.
    PEACE: No, I mean you’re wrong. She’s been taking Salsa classes for like 4 years.
    BARF: Dude, her butt needs more than 4 years and a dream.
    PEACE: I’m saying, she’s on her way.
    BARF: I admit, Salsa’s better than nothing but what about the rice and beans?
    PEACE: She says loves Tex-Mex.
    BARF: Mexico’s is in Central America. Salsa’s Caribbean. You didn’t get the memo?
    PEACE: Very funny.
    BARF: My point is, there’s no substitution for rice and beans everyday and Salsa every night.
    PEACE: You got to give her time to develop.
    BARF: Dough-butt can have all the time she needs. I’m out!

    Back to O&B b/c I aint gonna let monty beat me down with his mismanagement of the Knicks.

  50. Orange and Blue
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    DVJ

    I wouldn’t trade Lee, Balkman but the rest of the field is trade bait.

    Monty’s vision of basketball must be isos to the left with Z-Bo and isos to the right with Crawford.

    Post lack of presence by Curry.

    And point gaurding by a bi-polar prima donna.

    Zeke the Master Architect.

    Tried to sell you on run then afterwards on power, now pointing fingers at the youth for the lack of success, the man speaks with a forked tongue- our of boths sides of his mouth.

    Monty’s the Perfect politician.

    Fuck the Oliphants and JackAsses they also speak with forked tongues!

  51. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Thank you Statesman
    At least somebody see’s where I’m coming from LOL.

  52. HarleminMD
    February 7th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Barf,

    WTF? That was straight out of some Seinfeld script that didn’t make the cut. Her ass is flat and she likes Tex-Mex? That compares to Curry not being a complete play? Can I have some of what you’re smokin’ right now pleeeeeesssse? LOL.

    Whazzup fellas, I’ve lost the spunk to visit since our team plays like 8th graders. How they produce the same garbage every time they step on the court is beyond me.

  53. Peaceman
    February 7th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    DLT,
    Great trade DLT, Tell me something in Layman’s terms! How do I transfer something from Youtube to this blog?
    Please explain!

  54. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    Crawford, Curry and Nate are all at the NYSC right now watching the league games in downtown White Plains.

    If I was there I would smack the shit out of Curry.

  55. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    You can’t Peaceman.
    Unless Knicksdefense gives you the keys and lets you make your own post.

    You can’t post youtube videos in the comments section.
    You can only provide the links.

  56. Steady
    February 7th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Welcome back Orange & Blue! Don’t let Monty or anyone else for that matter, make you drop your colors. The winning may be hard to swallow (ask D L T) but trust that you are not alone. In my mind, you never left tu saves nuestro rey del pico. ;-)

    DVJ,
    Since the summer you established the DVJ persona in my mind and on the various blogs where we exchanged. This house is yours just as much as anyone else here can claim thanks be to Blogzilla. I’m still trying to to figure out how to post on your blog site. All these words are to shower you with kissy kissy while passing no judgement to the person who blogs here with passion. You once blogged–”I can tell when someone is tryin’ to insult me indirectly”. This ain’t one of those times. Since you asked the question about BARF calling you out, I’m pasting it below. Again, there’s no vitriol in BARF’s post (that I sensed), you’re one of our own and sans fault to the bruhs here.

    Disclaimer: DVJ predicted 57 wins in the offseason.

    Credibility= Zero.

    Sorry dude. But I dont agree with you. Blowing up the team means this hell continues that much longer. No, thank you.

    Quitting is never a good idea. Its what you do when you have nothing left.

    Comment by BARF — February 6, 2008 @ 5:38 pm

    Fenna catch up with Prop Joe–I missed last week.

    KFLL

  57. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Only thing I have to say about that Steady is……….HE’S RIGHT!!
    I predicted this Knicks team to win 50 + games because I thought we
    would build on last year. Towards the end of last year we were actually
    an ok team. I thought our weakest link was Frye and he was replaced by
    Zeke. Remember last year when I started bashing Frye and asking for him
    to be traded? Well God answered my call and gave us a 20 and 10 guy. What
    more could I ask for right?
    Let’s not get crazy here though….
    How many games did you predict us to win?
    Please don’t tell me you thought we would win between 20 and 30.
    Everybody here had them pegged to win at least 40 games. That’s not even
    50 percent of the season. So if I don’t have any credibility…who does?
    Everybody (even the MSM) had us winning at least 40 games this year.
    The rate where going…we won’t win 23.
    I was 30 games off while everybody else was 20 games off LOL.

  58. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    You have a mouth full of wisdom teeth……SMART MOUTH!!!

  59. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    We Need Change!!!!

    We Need Change!!!!

    We Need Change!!!!

  60. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Obama in 08!!!!!!!

  61. knicksdefense
    February 7th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    “So this is where all the fools who were famously wrong about Isiah Thomas and Knicks go to talk more gibberish about a subject they know nothing about. Also, girly lap top? How about the girl who takes a camera to the game and starts shooting away from the upper deck who has never been to a Knicks game before. What are you, a tourist? How pathetic. Also maybe you didn’t read the fine print on the ticket you scalped for $20 bucks but: “Any publication or reproduction without the express written consent of the NBA is strictly prohibited.” Guess what? You owe David Stern some money.

    Peace”

    Seems my words got franky’s panties in a bunch.

    whoever you are, chances are you aren’t sticking around to read any of this, but in case you are, let me reply.

    You tell David Stern I said bring it Franky, if he’s worried about what die hard knicks fans do to get through another lackluster season, he’s less of a basketball fan than I thought.

    “News Man,” too bad he wasn’t man enough to use his real name, because I leave an outside shot that could have been written by Alan for inadvertently hijacking his blogging community during the “wacky” fallout at the beginning of the season.

    News man defies the laws of physics. Not many of us can sit courtside and look down on the people above us in the 100’s, 200’s, 300’s, or 400’s. Not many of us can get paid to cover a team you so obviously hate while complaining about being moved back from courtside, or having to interview “bullies,” or calling Knicks fans “male groupies.”

    No matter how much I paid for my tickets, which were 200 section for the record (I pride myself on being working class and not some bourgeois snob complaining about the particular location of COURTSIDE tickets) I go as a fan, and blog as a fan, so for me to have to justify myself to a elitist professional hater–not even a consistent one at that–is just pathetic and comical.

    By the way, you look like a fat-ass on NBATV frank, loose some weight before they replace you.

    And your right about one thing, coward, I go to a lot less games this year, because I don’t agree with the management of the one team I’ve loved long before you got out of your camaro Z28 and cut your 1980’s mullet and put on your writer’s cap. I had season tickets last season, and didn’t want to commit this year due to distrust of isiah’s coaching and GM skills. I went to the game to see how the garden was doing.

    Your articles, the thinly veiled hatred that they are, no longer are of service to me.

  62. DaVonn Obama Jefferson
    February 7th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Amen knicksdefense!!!!!!!!!

    Good shit bro!!!!!!!!!

  63. Steady
    February 7th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Nah young bruh. I was right there with ya. I predicted fitty using that same logic. Admittedly, the script writers ain’t here with us so IT has another plan. All we can do is watch and weep. Or we can watch and call it like it is what it is. Monty has got this and if we believe that he knows what’s good, he’ll do the right thing. At the end of the day, the institution (franchise) will overcome this debacle; it always does. And so shall we.

    KFLL

  64. Steady
    February 7th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Attaboy Starburyfan–I’m sure you’ve had this on your mind to type for quite some time now. Let’er rip. Or WRITE-ON!

    KFLL

  65. stopmikelupica
    February 7th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    Great pics, KD. Really good stuff, and really fun, too.

  66. George M.
    February 7th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    Holy Shit dudes.Those MSM jackasses actually come snooping here.I thought that they thought that their shit don’t STANK!!! Guess I was wrong.Thanx to you KD/Starburyfan we have a good place to blog/chat away from those paid haters and those miserable scummy haters like Mark,LGM etc.We are Knick fans here not basketball groupies and for all you haters paid or just miserable I extend the middle fingers on both my hands and say Fuck you and the horses you rode in on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  67. stopmikelupica
    February 7th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    Oh, one more question: Speaking of the NY press, who is the tall dude in the press section who always wears suits (usually pinstriped), and has slick back hair? I see that guy during the game, and I’ve seen him before in real life, but I’m not sure who he is or what paper he writes for….

  68. knicksdefense
    February 8th, 2008 at 12:05 am

    All right, just got off the horn with David Stern.

    Some really bad news, fellas.

    News Man was right, I have to take down the pictures.

    Except the one of the NY Press, Stern said he didn’t give a rat’s ass about that one, and James Dolan is actually at this very moment trying to acquire the rights to the full rez photo, go figure.

    Who knows? If I hold out for more money, perhaps I can sit court side one night!

  69. Peaceman
    February 8th, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Knicksdefense,
    I was fucking with fat Frank today and making fun of his following….
    Mike Dunleavy has more ass hair on his head than Isola and Hahn have posters!
    I’m sure it was Mitch his bitch, wanting the fudge packed tonight and told fat Frank
    about your pictures! APB to EDDY from Plug uglies…watch the bath rooms tonight!

  70. Syd
    February 8th, 2008 at 4:51 am

    @ #61 Knicksdefense, Love it…… “Your articles, the thinly veiled hatred that they are, no longer are of service to me.” ……So true that…. WriteOn

  71. stopmikelupica
    February 8th, 2008 at 9:36 am

    Ironically, my GF has that same Mac laptop in white!

    But, to be fair, I use it all the time when we are home.

  72. knicksdefense
    February 8th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    same here mikelupica, my brother has that laptop and I do some of the posts for KD on it from time to time. much like the tone of the rest of the post, it was supposed to be a joke, but it still ruffled frank’s feathers quite a bit.

    apparently some of the media only like to criticize, they’re not happy when it is turned on them FOR ONCE.

  73. Jay Bee
    February 8th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Lordy have mercy KD. That is what makes you soul brotha #1. Kickazz!!

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    Chris is home in VA?alone?thank you!

  78. Ganja Man
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