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Knicks at Jazz

January 30, 2008 – 5:27 pm

Still feel the sting from giving the lakers the victory yesterday, but I guess we move on and go to Utah tonight to face a Jazz team with a top-notch home record.

Our old pal Stu Jackson just announced that Renaldo Balkman will be suspended for one game for the flagrant foul elbow he threw at that sissy Laker Sasha Vujacic or however you say his name.  Taz will not be available to play tonight due to the 1-game suspension.

I read some of the defenders implying that David Lee was the cause of the loss last night and I urge you to revisit the game.  David Lee was one of the players keeping the Knicks in the game.  If you’re looking for someone to blame, perhaps look in the direction of the bench.

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  1. 721 Responses to “Knicks at Jazz”

  2. first! kd, i think you got that mixed up. ain’t nobody blamin DLee for nuthin

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 30, 2008

  3. why would portland get themselves involved in this trade is beyond me

    Nets in three-way talks for Kidd

    In the proposed trade, Dallas and Portland would send the Nets a package that includes the Mavs’ Devean George and Jerry Stackhouse and Blazers forwards Travis Outlaw and Channing Frye and guard Jarrett Jack. Mavericks point guard Devin Harris would be sent to Portland. Along with Kidd, the Nets would send reserve forward Malik Allen and center Jamaal Magloire to Dallas.

    The Nets would also receive at least one future No. 1 pick and cash. It’s expected that New Jersey would work a buyout with Stackhouse and allow him to be a free agent. Other players could be included to balance the exchange of contracts.

    By BARF on Jan 30, 2008

  4. That trade proposal makes no sense whatsoever for Portland. Devin Harris is hurt and Outlaw is having a solid year…finally. They trade Trav, Frye and Jack and a pick? HAHA. Never happen. Who writes this garbage up?

    B&B’s proposal makes a lot more sense than this crap and I don’t think it’ll happen. So whats that say about this proposal? Trade machine rookies they are.

    9pm gametime seems so far away. Damn west coast swings.

    By BARF on Jan 30, 2008

  5. my bad chuck FM. I got the flu the other day, and it’s messing with me. i never get sick. maybe when your favorite team loses all the time, perhaps it weakens your immune system.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 30, 2008

  6. Agreed BARF, sounds like crazytalk…kd no worries, even michael jordan missed a dunk every once in a blue moon ;-)

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 30, 2008

  7. It would be nice if Zeke the GM checked in here from time to time so that he would have more trade scenarios in his head to ponder.

    Oh well.

    Damn the last thread got all blown up with some heavy wheight epics regarding the late quarter debacle in L.

    Great reads, excellent reads.

    Liked, BARF’s all is relative and and plenty of blame to go around rant.

    Damn Zeke consider my proposal ((plus NY and Dalls’ 1rst rounders) you turd!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 30, 2008

  8. Eddy Curry was caught by members of the Utah farmers group today
    out in a Cow pasture, hogging the cows “Salt licks!”
    No charges will be Filed. “I was just hungery” said Eddy!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  9. ROFLMAO!!!!

    Your killing me Peaceman!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 30, 2008

  10. The debate on the previous thread was very good. Solid arguments made by many.

    One of the biggest responsibilities of a coach is to establish a rotation and control the minutes of your core players to allow that player to be efficient. All of our players were shooting well. Even Jeffries and Balkman hit long jumpers. The team was operating at a high level. But our main guy, was playing a lot of minutes.

    You cannot just look at Crawford’s minutes as an indicator of his play. Crawford play 43.5 minutes, against SG on defense, and as a PG/SG on offense. He brings the ball up, initiates the play, and if becomes the bailout option when the bigs are stymied. That’s a lot of responsibility. It was easier when marbury was here; he shared that role with Marbury. He is the only true guard in that role right now.

    It is important for Isiah to keep Crawford as fresh as possible. This was the perfect game to do that in the first half! We had our complimentary players making shots. Nate was being Nate-squared, Lee was a magician, catching and finishing shots that no one would think is possible. Q is producing. Kobe was resting and deferring to his teammates. Crawford should have rested more.

    Crawford had a shot at the top of the key in the second half that made me want to break my computer. The shot clock was in single digits and he shoots an airball. If I am the coach, I immediately take him out of the game, not because he shot an airball, but because he had no legs. Lee was getting his shot blocked late because he had no legs.

    Reading the boxscore makes me sick. It says we used 9 men, but 3 of those men had approximately 10 minutes. Curry had 16, because of foul trouble. The remaining 5 had the majority minutes. That’s not good enough. We need 3 guys off the bench to have at least 20 minutes. Mardy needs to have more than 10. If we establish a guard rotatation of

    Mardy-Jamal
    Nate-Jamal
    Mardy-Nate
    [Best guard of the night]-Jamal

    then we will have a good rotation of our guards. Again, Mardy does not have to shoot. All he has to do is distribute and defend. He is not a star, but he is a good complimentary player and he should have role in helping us help Jamal and Nate.

    Let’s

    By HarleminMD on Jan 30, 2008

  11. If Korver hist his treys tonight Knicks won’t be able to pack it in on Boozer.

    This may not be the Utah team we beat last time around.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 30, 2008

  12. Go Knicks….play with your heads!

    Don’t let me down!!!!

    By D L T Knicks on Jan 30, 2008

  13. Game is at a slow pace tonight.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 30, 2008

  14. Knicks have had the ball stripped by Kirelinko and Okur both leading to scores on the Knicks.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 30, 2008

  15. The SCHOLAR is Balling YO!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  16. The only thing I can speculate is that Chandler must
    really suck if he can’t get burn tonight?????
    Maybe Zeke dosn’t want people to see how bad he really is?
    His Draft streak may be done if Chandler is a bozo?
    Did Zeke hit the Depaul wall????

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  17. After almost 600 posts in 24 hours…we haven’t cracked 20!
    Are the Defenders “Knicked out?” Pussys! lol

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  18. What’s with the flu-like symptoms??? Are these guys really sick,or is Zeke Fudd pissed at them for not playing right????

    By George M. on Jan 30, 2008

  19. Curry got Madd Cow disease from those salt licks!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  20. Within 4

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 30, 2008

  21. 4 point game …is this a tease???

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  22. I thought Collins was supposed to be a good defensive player,WTF?????? Williams slides by him time and time again DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By George M. on Jan 30, 2008

  23. The Flu ain’t such a bad thing!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  24. Mardy is staight D Leaguer!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  25. LOL @ 23

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 30, 2008

  26. Another D league move by Mardy!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  27. Jamal and Zach are keeping us in this game.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 30, 2008

  28. Collins the D-Leaguer has struck too many times tonight.What gives??? Does anyone have an idea why he’s playing like a D-leaguer at this time??? On defense anyway.

    By George M. on Jan 30, 2008

  29. Knicks suck balls bro……

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 30, 2008

  30. George M,
    He is what he is!!! A D-leaguer!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  31. MSG is broadcasting a special ” the Knicks in 20″ tonight after the game!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  32. just checkin in….nate’s been given orders to be mainly a distributor tonight? where’s jay bee?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 30, 2008

  33. collins sucks

    By Top Shotta on Jan 30, 2008

  34. Damn!!!! Collins the D-leaguer strikes yet again!!! I guess this guy can’t finish around the hoop either,huh?????

    By George M. on Jan 30, 2008

  35. Collins will be a good player for the Flash!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  36. I’m in. Had some homework issues with my oldest so I had to put that Jerry Tarkanian Amoeba defense on his azz.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 30, 2008

  37. Flu bug seems to be contagious.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 30, 2008

  38. Good pass Mardy!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  39. Fuck Collins!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  40. Maybe we should start thinking top draft pick (Derrick Rose), and forget about the playoffs.. I’m sure Pat Riley will start tanking games soon, maybe we should do the same….Collins with a dumb play again.

    By Top Shotta on Jan 30, 2008

  41. 96-89 Jazz. 2:16 in the 4th. Doesn’t seem like we can get any stops. So it’s not looking good.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 30, 2008

  42. what happened?

    curry with 5 minutes?

    i’m not trying to watch this game i have recorded if it’ll be a waste of time.

    By BARF on Jan 30, 2008

  43. Collins is another blow to Thomas GM resume.
    So far we got Curry and Collins as 2 busts for Isiah.

    Terrible…..just terrible.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 30, 2008

  44. No magic tonight.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 30, 2008

  45. We suck, We suck, we suck!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  46. What ever happened to Frank Williams?????

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 30, 2008

  47. Things are finally getting back to normal for the Knicks.
    The more losses the better.

    Riley is already throwing games.
    Shaq is out for a while and Wade and Haslem are not
    playing tomorrow. Riley is not dumb.
    He knows what he needs to do and he’s going to do it.
    Why we don’t do the same thing is beyond me.

    Anybody here have a clue?

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 30, 2008

  48. Zach takes an 11 pointer. No good. Ball game. GTFOH.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 30, 2008

  49. Who was it that predicted the Knicks would win 57 games this year??

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 30, 2008

  50. @30 - haha!

    By Edward on Jan 30, 2008

  51. Frank Williams is out of the league…We probably could use him over Collins at this point- what a wasted draft pick Collins is.

    By Top Shotta on Jan 30, 2008

  52. Looks like another culprit sat tonight.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Jan 30, 2008

  53. Seems like the whole team had flu like symptons today.

    Blame the Bug on Monty for not conditioning the franchise against such virulent infections!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 30, 2008

  54. On point about collins! He plain out sucks!
    Zeke should be ashame! Imagine the fuckup
    Chandler must be??? No other reason for a
    DNP tonight!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  55. However, I will say that the games at Golden State and Los Angeles appeared to have taken alot out of the Knicks and to come up with nothing but losses must have been a big blow coming into this game.

    Knicks didn’t let the game get too out of hand and were within striking distance but couldn’t breach the gap.

    Our gaurds are playing too many minutes, and Jones nor Mardy spell relief consistently in that department.

    Heck the further the team gets from a realistic playoff push, the more I’ll joint the lottery chorus.

    Night yall!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 30, 2008

  56. Where does Clyde get those ugly suits from…He’s definetly stuck in a 70’s time warp.

    By Top Shotta on Jan 30, 2008

  57. Like I said before that game in LA where the momentum turned and Monty shuffled a bad hand was essentially the Knicks season.

    Portland oughta smack down the Knicks

    and the last game at Seattle may be by then that the Knicks are to tired to even be in a competitve game.

    Thanks architect Monty thanks pass the buck of blame Monty thanks you turd!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 30, 2008

  58. Oh man!!!! Collins sucks a donkey dick sideways!!!! Holy Shit was he abominable tonight!!!! His poor play makes Edwina’s lazy ass look all-starish!!!! That’s FRIGHTENING guys! Plus no Balkman.We need a true floor general,a guy that’s D.Lee with shotblocking and defense PF/C with a mid range J and a SF with 3pters and defense not Q!!!!!! I think we should fold up the tents and try to get D.Rose,Beasley or S.Ibaka from the Congo.Trade whoever except J.C. 11/Z-Bo 50 to get the picks.Those 3 draftees would totally turn this club around!!!!

    By George M. on Jan 30, 2008

  59. Watching Collins kinda makes you think MAYBE Zeke should’ve drafted Williams and took a chance on Balk being around later….

    We need a pg badly!!

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 30, 2008

  60. thanks for the laughs peaceman and everybody.
    davonn saying the knicks “suck balls” got a laugh out of me too.
    BX: that wasn’t me homie. i thought 46 wins, and I was way off!

    perhaps we’ll lose enough to get derrick rose from memphis. only silver lining i can think of tonight. stern should fix the draft so he can fix his league. the knicks are that important to the nba so act like your biggest corporate sponsor David Stern, and JUST DO IT.

    isiah/suhr/aguirre/glen grunwald/steve mills ALL MUST BE FIRED.

    herb the loyal soldier/dave hanners should stay on board. let either one run it or bring in a defensive JVG style coach to run it.

    bring in charles oakley as an assistant coach to teach these knicks how to be tough defensively.

    just popped a couple sudafed.
    i’m out like mardy collins’ jump shot.

    until next time brothers.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 30, 2008

  61. Now that I think about it, when you consider how much Zeke took into account Steph’s feelings about things at that time, I wonder how much that had to do with Zeke passing on Williams??????

    We all know Steph has “things” on Zeke……

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm…….

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 30, 2008

  62. Feel better KD….

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 30, 2008

  63. I hope we don’t see Mardy’s Attorneys blog
    in his defense! He’ll be out of the league after his contract runs out!

    By Peaceman on Jan 30, 2008

  64. Collins seems to just be happy collecting an NBA paycheck,there appears to be no fire and desire in the guy to improve his game…If another GM were to take over tomorrow, he’d be an automatic cut…He has no trade value whatsoever.

    By Top Shotta on Jan 30, 2008

  65. Good point Top Shotta,
    We’ll regroup tomorrow and hash out whats left
    of this season and what options we have!
    Good night all!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  66. Why so much hate for Mardy? 3-8 FG. Not a superstar, but not bad either. How many games has he played? I guess he should come off the bench for 18 points, 12 assists against Deron. He’s playing in his 20th game. He averages 10 min a game, and you want him to be a superstar.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 31, 2008

  67. Playing the hand that’s dealt as a Knick fan. That’s all. I don’t own any individual Knick jerseys. Just a fan of the team and playing the hand that is dealt.

    I’m glad we lost. We can stop the playoffs illusions too.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 31, 2008

  68. MD Harlem,
    The Force is witcha. We see things the same way (so it seems) so I let you go on bloggin’ and remind folks here when Craw should sit due to fatigue. One could just see the flat shots due to no lift. Last night, I had the same subs you suggested coming back in to end the game. Monty ween half way and only brought out Curry. Crawford needed a blow because he was Crawful missing dipsy-doo floaters from 6ft. It takes a lot of energy to create those. Crawford prolly expends the most energy to create a shot in the NBA. Ya’ll can check me on that. The prima facia evidence that a Collins and Curry sub would have worked was the offensive next play–Curry lay-up down low though his D liability showed. He was beast on the DL and had Odom in FT. Kwame was not blocking Curry shots, he was blocking Lee and Crawful.

    Zeke gets a mild pass because he did not sit down for this one but got off his ass to coach. He knows he misses Marbury but he had to do what he had to get the Mecca keys back. Now, Steph got Greyhound tracks on his cabesa. For me, the game was lost by the N8 outburst/loss of composure. Sure it does not happen again because there’s a coach to remind of that transgression. Though N8 was right, he should have shown more composure as a pro under those circumstances. The T was a deflating blow to the psyche and the team lost all sorts of momentum. The Lone Rogue Ref had a major influence on the outcome of that game. Just Bloggin’.

    This NYK team will be a completely different/reversed team after the Nike Commercial Break. Just Do It NYKs. Yes WE CAN. They’re on their way and watch their performance on BSPN. You will not believe it is the same team. BELIEVE.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Jan 31, 2008

  69. There is some great stuff going on here at Knicks Defeciencies. Orange and Blue has just been poppin’. That Anthony Robbins bit drawn up by Peace ws hilarious. Steady is just plain steady. POPPIN’ and SYD are keeping us informed. And the crew, all of you, despite the anger and frustration dominating the day, are typing loud and saying something.

    Clearly we are rebuilding our energies and strengthening our faith and resolve despite the losses, perhaps because the because most of the KD crew is savvy enough to see not only room for improvement, but the improvement. What we don’t know is how far these guys can improve individually and collectively. We can make educated or miseducated guesses, but under our bravado, certainty and statistics, which are mere recordations of past activity collected, we just don’t know. Right Folly? Still, we can be certain of the following before knowing it as truth: “The rollercoaster ride before the All-star break will continue so strap your emotions and emoticons in.”

    After the probable loss to Portland, we are about to kick some major butt by winning four of the next six games. How am I certain of this without knowing it? Easy.

    Yes, this Knicks team is full of deficiencies and Isiah continues to push many of the wrong buttons, but this is a solid team that is now better than it was last year. Again, whether they deserve it or not, I must give Dolan and Thomas credit for sticking it out, because the critical component of a championship team is chemistry and it doesn’t happen just by putting players on the floor (unless you’re the Dream Team or perhaps the “NEW GREEN BIG THREE”); a team must work towards chemistry and the main ingredient, besides effort to make it work, is the TIME to make it work. Dolan by not firing Zeke has given the project TIME to work. It is working. Thay are working. BUT CAN IT WORK. I suggest yes, with some minor tweaking.

    Last night’s Utah loss was further evidence of an improved team. Last year, the Knicks regularly were blown out of the tail end of back-to-backs. Not so last night. They continued to hustle and show resolve. Despite a tough loss the night before, they hung tight with one of the best “HOME” teams in the league, a team that normally plays a very solid methodical game. The Knicks even tried to play a little defense. This is an improved Knicks team Knicks Deficienciers. (YES, we need wins. I know. I know.).

    Zeke remains stubborn about overplaying Jamal. I understand the reasoning. Choose your poison– a tired Jamal or defensive liability Nate or offenseless Mardy. He chooses to lay with a tired Jamal which is almost like playing by prayer because as Steady points out at #67, it is really hard for Jamal to make those shots when he is winded. His body mechanics require more energy. Have you ever tried to make the shots he’s making? Zeke should know this and he probably does, but he still needs a floor general. Mardy plays like he is mentally tired sometimes or like he still lacks the confidence he gained at the end of last year. He keeps throwing the ball away and getting stripped at inopportune times. Nate is great (you got to love this guy. I would put him on my team any time), but he is a post-up poster child waiting to happen. He must change the pace of the game because at normal speed he cna be picked out of a play, shot over, posted-up and dunked on.

    So we need Mardy to play better or a solid pass-first, able to shoot, willing to sit major minutes point guard. That would make Jones and Mardy expendable.

    I’m not an OTP guy, but if Jerome James can’t get his azz off that Jelly Donut, we need to find a one dimensional shot blocker who would not cost us much. Dikember Mutombo-type wanted. I refuse to discuss flavorless Curry in this post, except to say, he can make this a CHAMPIONSHIP caliber team.

    ****************************

    Zeke is doing a slightly better job than most Defenders would do with his rotation these days. I did not like Zach’s comment about what he learned in the NBA about matching up. For those who don’t know Zach was quoted as saying that he was taught that other teams should be forced to matchup to the team and teh team should not be trying to matchup to the opponent. It’s hard for me to decide whether it’s a positive because he believes he should be on the floor no matter what or whether it is a negative because he is ballsy enough to suggest that all his coaches in the NBA and College had better balling philosophies than Isiah. What do you guys think? Is he reflecting his selfishness or his desire to play or both.

    *****************************

    I like what I see. Better play from Mardy and Curry would go a long, long way to a good number of wins. They are both capable. I guarantee that those GMs who were dogging out Zeke and trying to rip him off in trade talks are very concerned about how to match-up against this team. Nellie, Sloan and Jackson just worked their asses off the last four days trying to match-up against the Knicks. Zeke’s players still need to do a better job. That LA game was special, btu you can’t play Kobe and have a five point differential with five minutes left. You must play with the idea that the end of teh game belongs to Kobe and the rogue homie refs.

    The reason we lose to Portland is because they are young and play with better chemistry than we do. We work hard burt are still out of sync.

    ******************

    Jeffries makes bad decisions at teh top of the zone. He continues to gamble that the perimeter guy will not make the shot or will decide to drive against him. I say give him the drive and make him shoot a running two. Why play off the man when he is hot from the tre. Silly gambles.

    ******************

    It would make little difference that the guards are tired at the end of the game, if they could make some stops and not throw the ball away. Small stuff makes Champions.

    ******************

    We’re about to have some fun — sfter Portland.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 31, 2008

  70. Magic Johnson: Knicks Will Make Playoffs
    January 31, 2008 - 6:43 am
    New York Daily News -
    Isiah Thomas is not the only person who thinks the Knicks have a shot of making it to the playoffs. Now Magic Johnson, the guy who the New York Daily News says recommended Thomas to run the Knicks to executive Steve Mills, says that there is no way that New York will miss out on post season action this season.

    “They’re going to make the playoffs and be a tough seven or eight seed,” Johnson said. “They’re settling into their roles. There’s no way I don’t see them not getting in as the seven or eight seed, especially in the East.” [READ]

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 31, 2008

  71. “We can make educated or miseducated guesses, but under our bravado, certainty and statistics, which are mere recordations of past activity collected, we just don’t know. Right Folly?”

    Can’t argue with that. Hume’s problem of induction is still in full effect. Still, you know what they say about those who refuse to learn from the past…

    Can always count on you Lives for a realistic yet upbeat summary. It’s a wonderful calling card.

    Re Zach, that’s not a quote that brings me zen-like calm at all but I interpret it as a prideful baller who feels like he can still contribute even if his opponent is faster or has more hops. I look at his overall game and realize that even on his “off” nights (game before last he had poor shooting and turnovers, but kicks in 14 rebounds and 4 steals; last game he commits the turnovers, but he scores at a great percentage) he’s still a net positive on the floor. There’s only three or four bona fide FRANCHISE power forwards in the league and he’s not one of em. He’s a notch or so below, which still makes him a premiere PF but it may be that dash-too-much-pride that separates him from the pantheon. I have no qualms about him being on my team tho.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  72. Real GM: KINGS WILLING TO DEAL AREST………
    Here is your answer Zeke! At this point……
    make it happen at any and all costs!

    ARTEST 2007-2008 or BUST!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  73. ARTEST! lol

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  74. mark berman writes every story with a marbury slant. now the knicks “fell” to a 5-5 record since marbury opted for surgery.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 31, 2008

  75. Magic is right!….. But we need Artest to cover Currys weak defense!
    We need ARTEST to close the lane where teams make layups like getting a drink of water!
    We need Artest to have a better defensive unit on the floor while having all starters
    also an offensive threat! A lineup of Zach, Curry, Artest, Crawford, and Nate..Yes NATE
    is a perscripiton to play .700 ball the rest of the season and make the playoffs!
    Hell, we could even bring back the FAUX injured Marbury if indeed Artest is running the
    show! Stay with me here, Marbury will defer to Artest’s will or get his ass beat NY style in the
    locker room! Now, you have Marbury at the 1, Crawford at the 2, Artest at the 3, Zach at the 4,
    Curry at the 5, and with the NEW TUDE ARTEST BRINGS……we take the 6th seed at worst, then make
    noise in the playoffs! It’s that freaken simple……DO IT ZEKE OR STAY ON THE WEST COAST WHEN
    THE KNICKS RETURN! ARTEST OR BUST 2007-2008!!!!!!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  76. Google Alert - new york knicks Thu 1/31/2008 5:28 AM

    NBA: Utah 100, New York 89

    New York’s Balkman Suspended One Game

    Jazz Beat Knicks, Win 6th Straight

    End Tax Deal for Garden, Council Urges

    Jack Thinks Isiah is Fired & Gets Fooled at a Bar, Thomas Jr …

    By Syd on Jan 31, 2008

  77. I gotta say peace, that would be an intriguing lineup! how many (good) years does artest have left tho? how do you guys feel about donte green in the draft as a good fit for knicks? what is up re wilson chandler? was summerleague about his peak?? is there more in the bag?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  78. Peace,

    @71………….Fruedian slip ???? hahahahahaha

    By JohnQ on Jan 31, 2008

  79. ChuckFM

    Artest just turned 28 in November!
    He has more than enough left for multiple chips
    with the Right players!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  80. Could someone put a realist GM trade Checker together that gets us Artest?

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  81. EC for Artest straight up ?

    By JohnQ on Jan 31, 2008

  82. We lost the game last night because of Curry’s fat ass.
    He went around giving the flu to multiple players. It’s his fault!
    We need to trade him for a Big Mac!
    N0… A large order of fries. No…. A fish fillet. No…A bag of Doritos.

    By African on Jan 31, 2008

  83. African,

    Is that you?

    lol

    By ANTI- NYSN on Jan 31, 2008

  84. African, you lay off Curry! It’s NOT his fault! It’s NEVER his fault! He is golden like McDonalds fries. He is almost perfect! He is DEVASTATING, like Shaq! He is so powerful, his flaws are like a tick on an elephant — INSIGNIFICANT!

    By Aboriginal on Jan 31, 2008

  85. Peaceman,

    How many playoff games has Artest won?

    Why have the Kings not done much since he’s been there?

    Did the Bulls or Pacers win Playoff games with him?

    How long before he has a meltdown in the garden?

    Are you related to Artest?

    By Isiah on Jan 31, 2008

  86. “He’s a notch or so below, which still makes him a premiere PF but it may be that dash-too-much-pride that separates him from the pantheon.”

    …orrr (and?) mebbe he just lacks the same physical gifts as the pantheon guys. at any rate, no matter how you slice it, zbo’s a keeper in my books.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  87. How many playoff games has Artest won?

    Why have the Kings not done much since he’s been there?

    Did the Bulls or Pacers win Playoff games with him?

    yo “zeke” those would be uncomfortable questions for kevin garnett to answer too

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  88. # 84

    Dickwad…how many Rings or PLAYOFF GAMES have Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and KG won?
    Your A FUCKING RETARD IF YOU CAN’T SEE ARTEST FITS LIKE A GLOVE.
    BTW, Dont address me with a FAUX handle faggot! Come with your real
    name Dick Breath!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  89. Charles,

    Are you equating Artest with Garnett?

    Are you saying Artest & Garnett have played with equally talented player?

    Would you rather have Garnett or Artest?

    When has Garnett had a meltdown or been a bad teammate?

    Charles, you need better examples.

    By Isiah on Jan 31, 2008

  90. Artest won playoff games w/ Indy.

    He is not a superstar but is a difference maker on a team w/ a few good pieces. Who does Sac have to start with for Ron to compliment ? NY has ZBO and Jamal.

    By JohnQ on Jan 31, 2008

  91. Peaceman,

    Resorting to third grade name calling.

    Are you related to Artest?

    Is Artest your boy toy?

    By Isiah on Jan 31, 2008

  92. Johnq,

    Artest is a cancer.

    Artest is Peacemans lover.

    Artest is a meltdown away from Kings Park

    By Isiah on Jan 31, 2008

  93. ChuckFM

    your more of a diplomat than me, thanks for the backup,
    but people who ask moronic questions like #84 are equal to
    saying the SCHOLAR has 2 rings, so he should lead the Knicks
    to a chip?????

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  94. To the FAUX ZEKE!
    Your mentallity is 1rst grade by your questions!
    They were correctly answered and you spew more bullshit!
    I WOULD TAKE ARTEST OVER KG ON THIS KNICK TEAM BECAUSE HE’S
    YOUNGER AND FITS BETTER WITH WHAT WE HAVE! ARTEST HAS 5-7
    GOOD YEARS LEFT! KG MAY NOT FINISH THIS YEAR…..DICK BREATH!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  95. i’d be WAAAAYYYYY more concerned with the Sacto beat writer’s claims that Artest has been deliberately ignoring and sabotaging about 70% of the team’s set plays by freelancing and going wqhere he wants to on the floor, or by demanding the ball and just running ARTEST ISO #1.

    Maybe he’s crazy smart, doing that just to get the heck outta Sacto. Maybe he’s just crazy.

    By PaulNoize on Jan 31, 2008

  96. That reads like the leprechaun lover coming back to shit on us after 3 straight losses. He was worried before with his fragile rotation, but he feels better after stomping the south beach quitters.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 31, 2008

  97. WHEN KG chest thumps, yells and growels, and talks shit
    people say that’s the Warrior in him. When ARTEST does the exact
    same thing he’s perceived as having a meltdown???
    Very selective thinking at the same type on court behavior!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  98. @ PaulNoize,
    Artest has stated he wants to be here….yesterday!
    He has told an asistant St Johns Coach that I know
    personally, that NY is the only place he really wants to play,
    and it would ease the burden on his family that Sloan kettering
    is right here for his daughter!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  99. “Isiah”,

    Maybe you should wait until Garnett wins something before you blow him.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 31, 2008

  100. Final public statement from ARTEST, that everyone here has read!
    ” I CAN TURN THE KNICKS AROUND” …. That don’t sound Crazy to me!
    It makes big time sense! Who would benefit most from Artest in our lineup?
    Zach, Curry and Marbury! He would make all three better! No doubt!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  101. FakeZekeThomas @ #88, oh, so circumstances DO count now? k, coo’, just so long as we’re on the same page. Peaceman, your #92 effectively squashes that whole line of reasoning.

    Anyway, it would not be prudent to claim there is NO risk in picking up Artest. The question is if he’s WORTH the risk and if you have the right personnel to keep his more negative tendencies mostly in check. I for one feel he’s less a disruptive risk than Rodman was in his heyday but that may be damning with faint praise. His two-way skills are a huuuge temptation for a team without a single bona fide solid-on-both-ends player (zbo’s as close as it gets).

    IF KG ever decided to add a couple more tats and desired a rap career we’ll see how fast he becomes feared off the court.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  102. Harlem in Md,

    Check out Draft Express’s 2008 mock draft!
    I believe you watch College ball. Look @ where Eric Maynor is
    at……middle of the second round??? Zeke can get this Kid for
    the future PG of the Knicks! Artest is a staple for 5 years
    and we don’t blow up this team!

    My question to all, how can you double Curry or Zach with Artest
    in the lineup? The answer….you can’t! A light year difference
    with that front court! Both Headlines in Real Gm and Hoopshype today are
    Artest! I’m crazyer than DVJ with Kobe on this issue and I don’t deny it!
    But come on as far as money….an 8 million price tag for Artest is the deal
    of the Decade!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  103. KnickDee:
    New poll question.
    Who has more man love for their hero.

    DaVonn ——Kobe
    Peaceman —-Artest

    It all depends which one will slip a tongue in, with the kiss.

    By African on Jan 31, 2008

  104. African,

    Your tounge is already buried up Curry’s ass so deep
    Curry has Sworn to go on A DIET IF YOU CONTINUE, as it makes his tummy feel full!!
    You asked for it bruh…..lol! No beef just get back veggies! My Brother from another mother!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  105. haha

    peace good comeback

    af, that was a helluva setup…haha

    By BARF on Jan 31, 2008

  106. LOL!!
    I know where my tongue is.
    Shade for the summer, warmth for the winter!
    It’s yours, Peace baby! lol

    By African on Jan 31, 2008

  107. I say get Artest.

    I laughed at post 102…funny stuff African.

    I wasn’t going to tell anybody that you got one arm and swim in a circle LOL.

    I don’t like veggies!!!

    If Magic Johnson believes….I believe!!
    Anybody that beat AIDS is always right in my book.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 31, 2008

  108. #104 & 105 is why I love this BLOG!!!!!
    Playing the 9’s without getting personal!
    It’s a beautiful band of Brothers!
    Knicksdefense has the best Hoop blog in the NATION!!!!!!!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  109. One love Peace!
    No beef, just veggies!
    No kissy kissy either. lol

    By African on Jan 31, 2008

  110. COOLEY…..
    Do you see the how the BAND OF BROTHERS FROM ANOTHER
    MOTHER, ROLLS HERE????? IT’S all good!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  111. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nba_experts/players/Eddy+Curry/nba.p.3514

    Hay, yo, this Eddy in da hissie—check it out!

    By Eatalot on Jan 31, 2008

  112. All this kissy kissy shit makes me sick.
    Obama vs Hillary tonight….good stuff!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 31, 2008

  113. Peace-of-man, African…

    “It’s a beautiful band of Brothers!”..

    Yeah, you two have us in stitches in here….:(

    @ Peace-of-man,

    You seem like a really emotional dude. Are you bi-polar?

    Count to ten before you answer….wouldn’t want you spinning in your high chair in a rage.

    And remember, never lead with your chin…..:)

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  114. former knicks channing frye would become a net if Kidd is dealt to Dallas

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/50618/20080131/sources_kidd_to_dallas_proposal_not_dead/

    By knicksdefense on Jan 31, 2008

  115. former “Knick”
    it should read.
    still sick.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 31, 2008

  116. Davonn,
    This culture we have establihed is anything but Kissy, Kissy!
    Let the wrong person blog an insurection and you will see the difference
    from respect to Kissy,Kissy…..Light years away My brother from a weak White
    Plains Mother……( your team sucked) LOL! Kissy,Kissy! ….. LOL!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  117. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nba_experts/post/Never-doubt-Isiah-Never-ever-doubt-Isiah-?urn=nba,61902

    Never doubt Isiah. Never, ever doubt Isiah.

    By Eatalot on Jan 31, 2008

  118. YO ROCKSTAR…..
    Head bang your weak ass blog…as it makes about as much sense
    as you being Country music Star!
    How many times did your dog get run over by a tractor?
    How many times did your brother fuck your sister?
    That is your artistic space! Keep the chain on your neck and DON’T STRETCH
    it even if your best friend LESTER’s potato blog is over run with rain
    you FARM BOY HERO!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  119. DaVonn:
    That would be great but,
    Obama has a secret weapon…..Bill…
    Clinton that is!
    He loves to be dismissive.

    By African on Jan 31, 2008

  120. Yo Peace-of-man…

    WTF did u say?

    Speak english, dude….

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  121. Where are u from, Peace-of-man???

    You sound like a dude from Schenectady trying to sound gangsta…..lol

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  122. ROCKSTAR…..
    You use the term US????
    Who the FUCK is US??????
    Your pretense of US…is like giving a TIC TACK TO A WHALE WITH
    BAD BREATH! I would ask you to count to 11 but you would run out of fingers!
    YOU ARE ONE SORRY MOTHERFUCKER….YOU DO NOT FIT IN HERE!
    TRY a beauty contest that you would lose against MITCH LAWRENCE!
    You’ve called down the Thunder….get ready for the Lighting,
    and you are not of the Band of brothers …so the gloves come off
    you retarded fuck! IT’S ON……Don’t dissapear DICK BREATH!
    I’ve Just begun to warm up! This is gonna be fun …Fag hag!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  123. YO ROCKSTAR…..we live in different worlds!
    In my World there is Soap and water!
    Too bad you can’t understand that!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  124. *jumps in a foxhole* INCOMING!

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  125. Obama just has to be on the aggresive side tonight and not always
    play defense for once. Don’t let Hillary try to stigmatize him in
    front of everybody. Remember, California has the most delegates to offer
    so this will be very important tonight.
    As for the GOP side…it looks like McCain will be the nominee.
    Racist Rudi dropped out and even though I agree with Romney on CERTAIN
    things…he doesn’t have it all together.
    Don’t get me started on politics…this is supposed to be a Knicks thing.
    I can go on forever about this race.
    Let’s just hope the Knicks can finish their race.
    We don’t have to be the 1st team to the finish line but we can’t come in
    9th or worse.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 31, 2008

  126. LETTER FROM ONE OF ROCKSTAR’S 10 Minute Girl friends!
    ” Rockstar” your a real neat dude, the greatest of guys!
    But…I cannot date a guy who’s breath attracts FLYS!

    ABS……2007!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  127. Peace lighten up on this character.
    Keep it on the DL, but if you remember on a previous blog, the genius that said two certain HOFers
    would not be even drafted in today’s NBA, then you know who you’re dealing with.
    Then you know to do a skip/pass. Not worth it.
    Attention seekers should get none in here.

    By African on Jan 31, 2008

  128. Hey “Schenectady Joe aka Peace-of-man”……

    Count to ten s-l-o-w-l-y….

    I told you about leading with your chin…..

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  129. I wouldn’t be surprised if Vince Carter and
    Ron Artest were both in Knicks uniforms by Feb. 21

    I’m not just bloggin.
    Any questions?

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 31, 2008

  130. Seriously…I knew you were from the wayyyyyyyyyy upstate…

    Around Schenectady way……

    What brother uses the term dick breath????????

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  131. ROCKSTAR
    My pimple on my ASS wiil make a better Sunday face
    then you’re whole generation! Russian’s are the lowest class
    in America! Obamma proved that!

    Q: How do you save a drowning Russian?
    A: I don’t Know!
    Q: Correct answer!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  132. Rockstar!
    You’ve mistaken me for your Mother!
    Even though we have the same facial hair!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  133. Schenectady Joe….

    You are an emotional mess. You resort to childish nursery rhymes when you’re angry.

    Are you kin to Mark??

    Does your mother know you’re on the computer???

    Do you live in your parents’ basement as well????

    Do you live with Mark???

    I suggest aggresive therapy for you.

    Have a drink of Vodka, you putz!!!

    LOL

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  134. Schenectady Joe…u are one unfunny dude.

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  135. Welcome to romper room.

    By JohnQ on Jan 31, 2008

  136. Schenectady Joe is the one playing in the “balls”…

    He likes that……

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  137. Hey, this is more entertaining than talking about Barney Curry.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 31, 2008

  138. I know WHO Rockstar really is!!!!!!!!
    Your are the WORLDS BIGGEST DICK!
    A Call to Immigation should settle this!
    Don’t try to buy me off! You can clean my house though!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  139. Rockstar…this is personal!
    Your Mother just blew me as a part of my house cleaning!
    Make sure you kiss her tonight….you will taste my cumm!!!!!!!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  140. Rockstar…your mother is GOOD!
    Keep me coming!!!! Pussy!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  141. I’d take a run at the Stro Show. He’s having problems with his coach and prolly could be had on the cheap.

    Trade talk involving Swift heats up again

    It is not known which teams are interested in Swift.

    Past interest indicates New Jersey might emerge as one suitor. Earlier this season, the Griz are said to have turned down a deal that would have sent Swift to the Nets for Jamaal Magloire, who is in the final year of a deal that pays $4million.

    Swift will be paid $5.8 million this season and has a player option at $6.2 million for next season.

    By BARF on Jan 31, 2008

  142. Ron Ron still talking about leaving. This does nothing for the Kings. With the Knicks’ playoff chances as low as ever, there is no reason to give up anyone of value (Balk or Lee) for Artest.

    Artest says Kings stint is near end

    Artest also says, though, that as he has looked around recently, he feels he won’t be with the Kings much longer.

    “I look around our team, and I see the emerging young stars, and I don’t get the sense that I’m going to be around,” said Artest, who recently said he plans to opt out of his contract during the offseason. “I don’t have a real commitment from the Kings, and it might just be time to move on. But for now, we want to finish out this season and try to make a run at the playoffs. I definitely feel like this is going to be either the last or next-to-last season with the Kings.

    “I mean, you look at K-Mart (Kevin Martin) and John Salmons and ‘Cisco’ (Francisco García), and this is a group that has a bright future. You look at John, and he’s been averaging All-Star numbers when he’s been a starter. I’m so proud of him. First off, I didn’t know how good he is, how much he could do. Then he’s a good man, a Christian man who loves his family. I can definitely see him being an All-Star.”

    “I’m not the kind of guy who will have a problem playing in any specific city,” Artest said. “I’ll play anywhere I feel like I’m wanted.”

    By BARF on Jan 31, 2008

  143. Stoudamire set to sign with Spurs

    Point guard Damon Stoudamire plans to sign with the San Antonio Spurs on Thursday night, giving the defending champions another veteran option while Tony Parker nurses a left heel injury.

    The absence of Parker comes at a bad time for the Spurs. They’ve lost a season-high three straight and just started their annual rodeo road trip, a nine-game trek that made its second stop at Western Conference-leading Phoenix on Thursday night. Seattle ended a 14-game losing streak in the trip’s opener.

    By BARF on Jan 31, 2008

  144. Schenectady NY????
    In reality..not a bad place….lets see….Pat Riley, Lamar Odem,
    Sam Perkins, Phil Jacksons and George Karls debut….(Patroons)
    A little like MT VERNONS HOF UPSTATE CONTRIBUTERS?????????
    Paul Hewitt of GA Tech( Siena)……countless other players
    to be mentioned….too bad I’m not from Schenectady! A good place!
    Uh oh …time to get more HEAD FROM ROCKSTAR’S MOTHER…AH FEELS GOOD!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  145. I knew that shit made no sense. Avery says no.

    Dallas Mavericks coach squelches Jason Kidd trade rumors

    Johnson squelched any talk that the Kidd trade talks might be a distraction to his team, which was concluding its shootaround at TD Banknorth Garden.

    “We’re not involved,” he said flatly. “Anybody has a right to throw out names. That’s a part of speculating. But we’re not involved. That’s all I can tell them. We like our team and we’re moving forward with our team.”

    “We feel when we have our 10-man rotation, we feel we can be pretty good,” he said. “We know there are a lot more teams favored to win it than we are this year. But we like our team.”

    So the Mavericks have no interest in Kidd?

    “We like our team,” Johnson said.

    By BARF on Jan 31, 2008

  146. J.J. Redick’s Agent Explores Trade To Find Him Playing Time

    Magic General Manager Otis Smith said that J.J. Redick’s agent, Arn Tellem, has suggested the club trade their top 2006 pick, who is frustrated over his lack of playing time for a second straight season.

    “I told him what I tell everybody else,” Smith said. “Why would I do that before I’ve really seen him? So he can do something somewhere else? I think J.J. can play.

    “He has to have patience. It’s the worst thing for young guys, having patience. I know. I was that guy (when Smith played in the NBA).”

    Redick, who seldom played last season under Brian Hill, is facing the same scenario under Coach Stan Van Gundy.

    “Right now it would be very hard to fit him in,” Van Gundy said. “I know it’s also hard to keep sitting him on the bench. I debate that, and my assists tell you, almost every day. Should we be playing him? Right now we’re going good so we probably won’t disrupt things right now.

    “I think about it all the time. He makes you think about it all the time when you watch practice. I know he’s really frustrated because there’s not a lot more he can be doing.”

    By BARF on Jan 31, 2008

  147. From the Blazer’s Blog…Outlaw off the table on all deals

    More trade mumbo jumbo

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again … anything with Outlaw’s name on it should be off the table immediately.

    By BARF on Jan 31, 2008

  148. Peaceman, my KD BFAM, I have to ask you to quit it with the n-word stuff. Not cool and not funny. And it’s time to give R* a break now. Give as you get, nahmeen?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  149. Barf,

    I read all that stuff today. It’s alot of talk for nothing really going on, aint it ?

    By JohnQ on Jan 31, 2008

  150. BARF, good quote pulls from Artest. Sure sounds like a half-way reasonable fellow to me…. Despite what Af would have you believe Outlaw (along with James Jones) is a key reason for their success so far this season. It’d be madness to mess with that right now.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  151. DEE-FENDERS,

    WHOA, What happen? The blog was taken to another level, unfortunately it was a Lower level,
    and not a Higher one.

    Peaceman, my bro, I enjoy your post and your sense of humor, however bro the N-Word is unnecessary
    and inappropriate.

    Peace & Blessings

    By Statesman on Jan 31, 2008

  152. Yeah Schenectady Joe…watch your language!!!

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  153. Peace-of-man wrote…

    “know WHO Rockstar really is!!!!!!!!
    Your are the WORLDS BIGGEST DICK!”…

    You should know…it was in your mouf…and u know dicks!!

    Grow up and get some counseling….I suggest anger management.

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  154. Besides, with all the scat flying around y’all’ve missed the point that Artest is fool’s gold. He’s a skilled player who ruins teams. Don’t compare him to Garnett. Garnett led a team to the conference championship and still has the love of an entire region. Kevin also has a bigger impact, at both ends of the floor. Ron-Ron defends one man, and that’s usually about it. Garnett anchors the defense, Duncan-style. Pierce also lead the Celts to the eastern championships. Ron’s most memorable act so far hs been to start a brawl. He’s a bigger, more complete version of Stephon: the game’s all about him, and with time, he’ll alienate all his teammates. Get him by trade, get him by mid-level, whatever–the results will be good for a while, but not in the long run.

    By Agramante on Jan 31, 2008

  155. Good evening Defenders!!!

    Post #102 to #109 are flat out hilarious…I hear you Bruh from another Mother…

    Sounds like some Defenders are getting Jiggy on the Corner with their hands over the fire in the trash can…LOL

    And sipping some Mad-Dawg 20 20 and some Ole English to take the chill and th edge off….Now them were the MFing days…

    Keep it POPPIN!

    By Cooleyhigh on Jan 31, 2008

  156. “He’s a skilled player who ruins teams.”

    Agramante, what gives you reason to believe so?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  157. As good as KG is..he still hasn’t won anything in the league yet.
    I think the only hardware he has is a All Star Game MVP.

    Great player but not in the category of Duncan.
    It hurts me to say that but Duncan is a WINNER!!!

    KG unfortunately is a loser.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 31, 2008

  158. perhaps Charles, he talks about reports of Artest ignoring play calls from the bench three quarters of the time and just doing whatever the hell he feels like….think that might have an unusual effect on team chemistry? On the development of young players?

    Welcome to the Big Bench, Coach Theus.

    Again - maybe it’s Artest’s underhanded ploy to get out of Sacto.

    Peace - i love the quote by Artest, and even if he is uncoachable i’d still take him over Q / Jeffries / Taz / Chandler 7 days a week - and twice on Sundays!

    Of course, he can show & prove by opting out and signing here for the mid-level….NO ONE can stop him from doing that if that is what he decides he wants to do. Thirty million is nothing to sneeze at!

    By PaulNoize on Jan 31, 2008

  159. Congratulations are due to The Scholar!!!

    Congratulations Nick Young, Malik Rose, David Harrison, Malik Allen, Al Thornton, Boris Diaw, Jeff Green, Aleksandar Pavlovic, Bostjan Nachbar, Jason Collins, and Andrea Bargnani: “Wages of Wins” calculations says you are the ten worst players in the first half of this season!

    http://www.wagesofwins.com/AllPlayersMid0708.html

    By PaulNoize on Jan 31, 2008

  160. ROCKSTAR/MAK /MARK /LGM/LMG
    YOU ARE FOOLING NO-BAHDEE…..YOU STENCH IS CLOUDING UP OUR SPACE!
    LETS SETTLE THIS….YOU BE @ MSG ON THE DAY THE KNICKS PLAY THE CLIPPERS!
    I CAN BELIEVE YOU WILL WALK AWAY WITH MY SIZE 12 UP YOUR ASS LOOKING FOR AIR!
    I’ll be @ 33rd and 7th with a sign saying I’m Peaceman! You name the time!

    I pray in my heart that you will show up…but knowing the cowards that post
    behind the net….you are pure shit….and would never show up for the ass beating
    that your fag ass deserves…..you spinless prick! Any time any place ..you name it fag
    boy!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  161. Agrgramante…….
    WTF are you stuck on the movie 300! Does it have to be WHITE HERO’S
    to claim glory?????? You ever hear of the Movie King of Kings?
    Then you are Asshole of Assholes!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  162. Speaking of pg’s in this year’s draft…

    Everyone speaks about Rose and Mayo, but there are a bumpercrop of point guards coming out (or potentially coming out) this year.

    I’m watching the Carolina/Boston College Game, and I am looking at one of the better pg’s in the nation in Ty Lawson.

    His father and I were stationed at Andrews AFB, Md, so I watched this kid grow up, from community league ball (where he played with my son), through prep (Mouth of Wilson, VA) to NC…and let me tell yall, this kid is the real deal!!

    Another cat who shouldn’t be slept on is Augustine from Texas.

    He runs his squad like a commanding officer directs his troops. He’s a natural leader.

    Anyone else have any other pg “sleepers” in the college ranks?

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 31, 2008

  163. Then fuck off “Peaceman,” you are not my brother. Knicksdee, I know you enjoy staying above the fray, but it would be appreciated by this reader if you could adjust your filter to nix any comments with the n-word? Please and thank you.

    PNoise, glad to see another WoW follower ;-)

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  164. Peace-of-man….

    “May I say that maybe too quick I pulled the trigger…”

    You sound like you were chewing rocks when you composed that sentence..

    As Tommy would say….”Peace-o-man, u stupid!!!!!”

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  165. You see how destructive anger is if not controlled, Peace-of-a-fraction-of-a-man???

    You just insulted a fellow blogger and ruined a blogship….lol…

    I notice how you interact with anyone who opposes your views….with unbridled anger and venom.

    What is wrong with you, man????

    Did I ask you your shoe size???

    Is it possible for you to communicate w/o name calling?

    Probably not, for that’s the extent of your vocab….

    Now WHO’S taking it personal, huh????

    Stupido…..lol…

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  166. Rockstar….
    if God gave you the noble abiliy to have childern….
    I BET THEY ARE ALL DICK SUCKERS LIKE YOU!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  167. ROCKSTAR…..YOU ARE A ZERO ON ANYONES SCALE….
    CARE TO TAKE A POLE DICKSUCKER?

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  168. Peace-of-a-quarter-of-a-man….

    Is that all you have left?

    You can surely do better than that…

    Didn’t i tell you about leading with your chin???

    Such a stupid man……lol

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  169. Piece-of-a-pint-of-a-man…..

    You like talking about dicks, eh…..

    You continue to expose yourself…

    Ignorant man….

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  170. Rockstar …I want you to whoop my ass!
    You are MAK and we all know it…I want to hit your
    incest eyes with an over hand right and knock your buck teeth out
    …….don’t say you were surprised!!!!! Faggot!

    By Peaceman on Jan 31, 2008

  171. Wow!

    Someone takes a swipe to start up some itching…

    The scratching at the itch gets up and intense to the point that it’s not the itch one’s scratchin but rather the scab that’s scratched.

    Dug up to kill the sensation to the point that the wound is out there for all to see and perhaps if unchecked left to fester beyond the point where a simple scratch or scabs protection would have sufficed.

    Ouch!

    Just hope that at the end of the day all can catch up on some ZZzzss and play it all off as if it never ocurred.

    Good night to all one and the same.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 31, 2008

  172. Defenders

    14-31 and where is the hope?

    IT not pulling the strings on any trades.

    The year is slowly slipping away.

    We need something FAST!!

    23-59 won’t make us happy.

    …While shoppin’ for new Giants caps I also picked up 2 more Knicks caps. I must be crazy.

    By D L T Knicks on Jan 31, 2008

  173. come on, D L T - there’s always next season!

    What are the odds we have ANOTHER losing season next year? It’s inconceivable!

    By PaulNoize on Jan 31, 2008

  174. “Just hope that at the end of the day all can catch up on some ZZzzss and play it all off as if it never ocurred.”

    Can’t tell you how disappointed I am that no one has shot down “peaceman’s” bullshit. Everybody fronting like they didn’t see it, trying to pretend it didn’t happen. I’m taking an extended break to wash off the stink. Af, you have the run of the house.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  175. last note: first appearance of the n-word was 2:57pm. It is now seven hours later. Too many of you are ducking.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 31, 2008

  176. Folly,

    Just finish watching the Debate, Clinton vs. Obama. I am sure this was not televised in Canada.

    I agree w/ you that Peaceman’s comments were Inappropriate,Unnecessary, & Disrectful to Defenders,
    & Himself.

    Peaceman, you stated in an earlier post that you were more like Malcolm. Malcolm a Prideful Man,
    Respected himself, and was very careful of the language that he used. It is not about who
    YOU blog for, but it is about showing Respect for yourself and others.

    Peaceman this is my attempt to approach you in the Spirit of Love, not Hate. I hope that you are able
    to conquer whatever Pain or Demons that you carry inside. UNCONDITIONAL IGNORANCE IS UNACCEPTABLE
    under any circumstances.

    Peace & Blessings

    By Statesman on Jan 31, 2008

  177. You just shown your true colors, stupid Peace-of-a-woman….

    U are an out of control, immature man who wears a size 12 shoe…

    If you noticed, not one of your fellow bloggers are co-signing on any of your posts. No one wants to be associated with your childish behavior and blatant ignorance, and I can’t blame them. You are all alone sitting in the corner of your room having a temper tantrum with your thumb in your mouth..

    And the other up your azz….lol

    Someone pass the baby some animal crackers…..lol

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  178. Good evening Defenders

    WOW!! This is what have come too. Let me see if I can switch up the tone and dialogue for a hot minute.

    Chuck FM, for the record, the member’s of the FORCE MD’S/DC’S were not ducking the exchanges on the THREAD, we were actually fellowshipping in peace and harmony at our Thrusday Libation FEST. BRONX, unfortunately could not join us, but Steady, Harlem MD, MODI, and myself, ate, drank, laughed, talked about our passion for our BELOVED KNICKS, KNICKDEFENSE, politcs, the economy, and how the THREAD brought US together and what a beautiful THANG that really is and how we’re appreciative. Hopefully everyone will return safely to their respective abodes and prepare for another Glorious Day. Defender’s, these MEN ARE TRUE SCHOLARS AND GENTLEMEN OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. That’s how we spent our evening!

    Statesman, eloquently and humbly spoke the truth….I fully Support and Co-sign Post #152 in its entirety….Reason echoed on the THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    In the end Chuck FM, the rest of the Defenders will make their own personal choices and interact as they see fit on this THREAD.

    Finally, to admonish or correct is not necessary ChuckFM. As Human Beings, we ALL know the difference between right and wrong. ChuckFM, SILENCE CAN BE GOLDEN!!!

    God Bless Defenders!

    Keep it POPPIN!

    By Cooleyhigh on Jan 31, 2008

  179. Rockstar

    In situations like the one between you and peaceman I try not to get involved.

    In my post at 176 I was just expressing how unreasonable the whole matter was, w/o getting on a high horse pretending to be judge or arbitrator.

    I’m not black so I’d be insincere if I took a position on the usage of the word many find offensive here.

    Let those bloggers genuinely affected by the use of that word in any context speak their displeasure, cause I surely can never truly understand what harm that word inflicts and I’d be doing a diservice to those who do by getting all righteous about it. That of course is not to say that this blogger is a stranger to words charged with race, and racism.

    But Rockstar, while I do not want to take sides why do you continue to instigate peaceman?

    What do you get out of it? Sure you’re follow up post conveys that you stand on a higher ground but if you surely do why draw you peaceman and this whole blog, that’s been a home for us all, into the ugliest of pits.

    A better person would surely disarm this whole fiasco don’t you agree?

    You know who you are, none of us do so why does anyone, you or peaceman, get worked up when called out with speculations of who we “really” are or how “hardass” we really can be?

    I’d like to think that the things that draw us to this blog and the good vibes it provides us all could flourish and we can just grab a drink and debate without being disagreeable.

    So who here is the better person?

    Peace and Blessing.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 31, 2008

  180. Black and Blue

    Your words ring true, as those of Cooleyhigh before you.

    I would never want to cause any disharmony in here, and if i did, I truly apologize.

    Please accept the olive branch that I extend to you and the blog.

    By Rockstar on Jan 31, 2008

  181. KnicksDefense,
    Get well soon.

    Keep the faith.

    By Rose on Jan 31, 2008

  182. Chuck, i spoke my piece on Peace some time back by saying his screen name was a misnomer, and i suggested that we set up a blog poll for suggestions on a name change. i was pretty roundly ignored and/or shouted down for that suggestion, despite my noting that Peaceman brings the goods with the ruckus: passion, knowledge and truth. The bad with the good.

    So i ducked this whole N-word thing, i guess i lack the political capital to confront a guy like Peace on it….sorry man, i had your back on the MLK no-cursing thing to, seemed a noble way to honor a great man. But i was no help there, so i logged off and laid low….things got a bit ugly but they will on these threads, that’s why we’re called FANS i guess, staying true to the root of the word

    But truth be told, the whole fascination with gay sex thing also really turns my stomach. The insults are secondary….the shock value MIGHT be semi-funny the first time, but after awhile it’s like - yo man, you be spending WAY too much time on that topic. Don’t NOBODY want to hear about dicks and balls and assholes and whatnot. Straight up, kill that noize! ‘Specially around dinnertime.

    Cooley, your tale of living the chill life with your fellow DEFENDERS was like a cool breeze at sunset on the porch, a breath of pure class. i am delighted that you have found some fellowship amidst our collective suffering as our Orange & Blue continue their sour journey through a sixth straight season, you have managed to turn lemons into lemonade with new friendships.

    Positivity is its own reward - nuff respect! =)

    By PaulNoize on Feb 1, 2008

  183. Google Alert - new york knicks Fri 2/1/2008 5:30 AM

    New York Giants aim to regain city’s pride

    Friday’s best NBA bets

    Knicks’ Randolph returns: Is it homecoming?

    New York Knicks Midseason Report

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    By Syd on Feb 1, 2008

  184. Oh, another reason why we lose tonight — Randolph returns home and will try to show the home crowd why they shold miss him and when he is pulled he will get pissed at Zeke and not get on the team plane and we’ll fall back another 10 games and both Magic and me will be wrong about the playoffs. Just Bloggin’ and praying that I am wrong.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 1, 2008

  185. Lives,
    Thank you for that useful post. It is VERY useful. I co-sign on it entirely sans exception. Cooleyhigh will be on soon enough to give you the embrace from the Force.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Feb 1, 2008

  186. Is Allan Houston still available and ready to play? Check out the trailer for the “COMITTED” documentary and tell me what you think.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 1, 2008

  187. Thanks Steady.

    One day, I am going to hope the Amtrak train and make that three hour trek to hang out with the Force MDs for a couple of hours. It sounds like too much fun to be missed.

    I’m running around today, so I pray that everyone have a great, thoughtful, provocative and loving day.

    Peace.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 1, 2008

  188. hope = hop. (LOL)

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Feb 1, 2008

  189. Lives

    Good words and it’s a shame the whole Blog got off the topic of basketball and too much pie throwing.

    Rockstar

    Whether to choose the olive branch is always your and anybody’s individual choice.

    In the end, the best way to extend it is by your, meaning anyone’s, actions.

    Peace and Blessings

    By Black and Blue on Feb 1, 2008

  190. Ok

    I am now officially lobbying.

    I know African will think I’m a tard (retard).

    It’s ok, I stand by my conviction.

    Can we please get involved in a deal to facilitate Kidd going to Dallas.

    It seems Dallas really wants him there, and I believe the Knicks, Dallas, and Jersey can all come out pretty well on this.

    By Black and Blue on Feb 1, 2008

  191. Delusional

    Knicks 103

    Blazers 89

    Some reverse reverse mojo!

    Since the other stuff aint working nomo!

    By Black and Blue on Feb 1, 2008

  192. “But the truth is that personally, I don’t engage and referee personal battles between bloggers…So as one brilliant poster (no it was not me) wrote, ‘Not all posts merit a comment.’ Some just get a ’skip pass’ or one would be policing posts 24/7.”

    If you’re suggesting that I get involved in most of the p