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Knicks at Lakers

January 29, 2008 – 12:53 am

Paging Mardy Collins…  You are required to check in at the scores table for Knicks defensive purposes tonight against the Los Angeles Lakers… 

Renaldo and Nate had good games statistically off the bench for the Knicks Sunday night against Golden State.  But I agree with Harlem in Md, the Knicks-Warriors game should have been a win and we let it slip away.  Certainly seems like a theme this year when you put aside the early blowouts.

Great effort throughout the game though, yet I think in the fourth quarter we went away from what we were doing well and we allowed them to take it from us.  I did think Nate was shooting the ball fairly often, but at the time, everyone else on the floor was very hesitant to shoot it for the knicks, so Nate was needed at the time to create for himself and keep us in the game.

Upon replay of the fourth quarter, it is worth noting that Quentin had a good look at the basket and missed an uncontested three pointer, David Lee got the offensive rebound and kicked it back to Q who was WIDE OPEN for another three pointer but instead he chose to pass it to Jamal Crawford, who unfortunately couldn’t buy a long-range shot during the fourth quarter and bricked a baseline three point shot.  With that miss and loss of possession, the game was essentially over.  Nate made a three pointer on the next play, but it was too little too late for the knicks.

Only four teams in the eastern conference are playing over .500 basketball in their last 10 games, boston is 5-5 in their last ten as are the knicks.  Now is the time to make a run if they have any moxie to do so–this west coast road trip may prove even more fateful than the last one.

The Knicks have half a season to try and crawl their way out of the immense hole they have dug for themselves in the watered-down eastern conference.  Moral victories will not in any way help get them into the playoffs, and incidentally, Isiah, neither will excuses.

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  1. 596 Responses to “Knicks at Lakers”

  2. Hay, I got the first post!!!!

    With that said: LET’S GO KNICKS!!!!

    By Anti-NYSportsNews on Jan 29, 2008

  3. Knicks Should Consider Starting Jeffries

    http://www.nysun.com/article/70366

    Knicks Would Like to Have Laker Woes

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/sports/basketball/29knicks.html?_r=1&ex=1359262800&en=9aaea237218b6a90&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

    Jamal, Nate must find Curry

    Legal Delays Tax More Than the Nets’ Patience

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/sports/basketball/29sandomir.html?ex=1359262800&en=100fee7052795846&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

    With Lakers’ Bynum out, Knicks can focus on Kobe

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-a5555926jan29,0,5462626.story?track=rss

    Isiah Thomas gushes over Kobe Bryant

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/01/29/2008-01-29_isiah_thomas_gushes_over_kobe_bryant.html?ref=rss
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    On The Lakers Side Of The Court
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    The KB24 - LBJ Matchup

    http://mvn.com/nba-lakers/2008/01/28/the-kb24-lbj-matchup/

    Lakers put losing streak in perspective

    http://www.ocregister.com/article/lakers-los-angeles-1968723-lakers-lakers

    It’s hard for Lakers to keep abreast in West

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakerep29jan29,1,7301267.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true

    Up next: Knicks vs. Lakers
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 http://www.northjersey.com/sports/knicks/14628627.html

    Ding column: Taking a different look at Lakers’ Kwame Brown

    http://www.ocregister.com/article/kwame-brown-lakers-1968589-los-angeles

    By Poppin Scoski on Jan 29, 2008

  4. Abdul-Jabbar as Renaissance man

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-dwyre29jan29,0,3572612.column

    By Poppin Scoski on Jan 29, 2008

  5. Lives

    I love the following commentary from the prior thread.

    “We certainly could use Curry better, but Curry could certainly play better. He keeps acting like a kid. he keeps thinking like a kid and not a grown professional. “He is only 24? says a lot, potentially good and bad, about him. Just listen to him. At least he is honest enough to tell us that his play is controlled by his emotions. If he doesn’t get the ball, he feels out of the game and plays like it on both ends. He plays scared to be taken out or fouled out. He plays nice like a little guy in a big body who is afraid he will hurt somebody or not be liked because he is the biggest guy in the room. CURRY needs a lot, but he needs TIME to grow up and grow into his body. He needs a mentor — a big mentor. CURRY’s deficiencies start mentally, even he knows it. Send him to ANTHONY ROBBINS or a sports hypnotist. Tell him that anytime he hears the bounce of a ball, he is an angry, fierce Kangaroo-acting tiger ready to destroy all in his path. If Curry played like that, this would be a CHAMPIONSHIP caliber team. If he passed, blocked, punted and kicked this would be a CHAMPIONSHIP caliber team.”

    Can the sports pshycologist get into Curry’s head and encrypt the following…

    “NO REBOUNDS NO TOUCHES!”

    That might get him to become more of a rebounding monster heah?

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

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    By Syd on Jan 29, 2008

  7. Hey seems like Crawford is telling Curry to get his big Lyrch self open, instead of crying about not getting any touches.

    Hey if ever Curry becomes a complete monster on both sides of the ball I will redubbed him GodZukie!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  8. ***** REPOST **********

    Rockstar, while Af has often been a bully and a boor with his opinion and presence, at the end of the day he’s still a valued insider. The ethos here is not to encourage undue personal attack even if you think someone “deserves” it. His general attitude almost begs for a pile on when it’s easy to make a counter-case but i believe the deadliest venom is still kept locked away for true enemies. don’t get it confused.

    MODI, see, this is the test: you say zbo’s irredeemable flaw is his passing yet here he is passin his ass off. so i pose the question to you: IF things continue as they are, with zbo passin his ass off and curry continuing as he is, would you then change your mind to say zbo is the keeper if it came down to a forced choice between the two?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  9. Holy cow, KD gots ADVERTISING now? Say whaaaaaa….?!!

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  10. (In my singing voice)

    It’s the Mamba…..Mamba on the run
    And he’s scoring like he’s never scored before
    yeah yeah

    It’s the Mamba…..Mamba on the run
    And he’s scoring like he’s never scored before

    (still singing)
    you can try to slow him down
    you can try to shut him out
    You better be careful cause he’ll drop 80 in ya mouth

    Chorus 2X

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  11. Do not..I repeat do not focus on Kobe.
    He is at the point now where he will beat us with the ball or
    without the ball.

    Why is everybody picking on Af? LOL
    Af you still causing trouble man?

    Please don’t tell me your still slurping Curry….

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  12. Why am I NOT surprised at the DVJ sighting…and singing to boot!!…lol

    I actually believe this game is more winnable than the GS game. We seem to match up better against LA, even when they’re at full strength.

    We have a definite advantage in the post tonite with the absence of Bynum (Curry, are you reading this????), so we should look to exploit the void left in his wake.

    I’d love to see Mardy get extended minutes tonite. It’s just a matter of confidence and finding a rhythm with him. We could use his length defensively and his steady handles. He s probably our best post passer as well, so the bigs should benefit immensely from him runnin’ the point.

    The more time he gets, the better he plays.

    I admire how Jamal tatfully called Curry out the other night. He seems to be embracing his leadership role on this team.

    Aight Knicks…let’s go!!!

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  13. Folly: Yes.

    By MODI on Jan 29, 2008

  14. Good AM Defenders!

    @DVJ, Post #9 is absolutely hilaruious; are we grooving to a Salsa rhythm or Belafonte’s calypso…LOL
    BTW DVJ, does the groove have a bridge…LOL MAMBA MAMBA MAMBA LICIOUS, LA LA LA LA OYE OYE OYE

    @BRONX, I will co-sign on the dotted line on post #11; MARDYC can help US down the stretch, as long as MONTY (where’s the card Monty) lets him regain his rhythm and his confidence…If he is allowed to do that, there is no need to make any moves for a PG…

    @MODI, be careful, cause FollY is persistent and and rather relentless…Yet, he still fell for your Jedi Mind Trick…LOL LOL

    Per KD custom, it is Game Day, and I am going to drop a little somethin, somethin, for the Head, the Heart, and the soul.
    Go Knicks GO Knicks Go Knicks Go Knicks….Defender’s, Peace Be Unto You!

    Today’s Quote
    Don’t wait for your ship to come in. Row out to meet it.

    Today’s Scripture
    “The mind of man plans his way, but the LORD directs his steps” (Proverbs 16:9).

    Today’s Word
    What are you doing to bring your dreams to pass? Are you getting prepared? Do you have clear direction? Are you taking steps of faith? Success is intentional. You may not know what steps to take right now, but God has a good plan for your life. If you’ll do your part to seek Him and begin to make plans to succeed, God will guide you. He will direct your steps. You don’t have to vaguely go through life. God wants to show you His plan. He wants to pour out His blessing on you and see you living a life of victory. Decide today to make plans to succeed. Write down your goals. Make time to evaluate where you are in life. Evaluate your finances, your career, your relationships. Don’t go another week without having a plan for your future. Evaluate how you’re spending your time and money. If you’ll go beyond dreaming and start making plans to succeed, God promises He’s going to direct your steps. He will lead you down the path of His favor. He’ll lead you into increase. He’ll lead you into promotion, and you’re going to see your dreams come to pass and walk in success in every area of your life!

    A Prayer for Today
    Heavenly Father, thank You for guiding and directing my steps. Help me to see clearly the plan You have for me today and every day. I submit every area of my life to You and trust that You are working behind the scenes for my good. I bless Your name today. Amen.

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 29, 2008

  15. Folly:
    “I think it’s all been said by now and the subjects of the debate aren’t doing too much different to change minds (well, at least zach’s play of late has allowed af to admit the guy IS a top-shelf PF).”
    That’s where you were reading me all wrong. I’ve always stated that Zach could play with the best of them.
    I always made the distinction that the difference between Zach and KG, is that KG understands that he can dominate the game without scoring.
    Don’t get it twisted. The knock on Zach has always been that he just does not pass. The black hole.
    Now that he’s making the effort, the ball is moving much better. Still no reason in my mind to keep him over Curry.
    My point is clear. At least to me.

    Cooley:
    If that wasn’t your intention with your post, I stand corrected, but there was no doubt in my mind when I read it.
    No beef anyway.
    The issue of being right when one post I think is on point. I don’t post to be right, but whenever I throw out an observation or analysis, I certainly believe it to be right at that point. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t bother to waste the strokes or bore you or others with stuff even I don’t believe to be accurate.
    If you notice, I don’t dwell on trade speculations. I look at what we have and see what it takes to be better. I’m a Knick fan first, but I’m also a Curry fan. I see his potential, and with some conditioning he can become one of the best in the league. That would be to our benefit. If he’s traded to the Nets, I won’t be a Nets fan.

    When folks post nonsense like the greatest point guard in NBA history, and one of the greatest forwards to ever play the game, won’t be drafted in today’s NBA, they need to be smacked down.
    Who have eyes to see, let them see. Who have the sense to decode, let them decode.
    Nuff said!

    By African on Jan 29, 2008

  16. MODI @ 12. Nuff respeck due. and, for the record, IF curry became a fairly consistent defensive force to go along with his existing offensive skills (?) i’d have no choice but to go with him over zbo (tho man, if he can’t do it w/o ratcheting up the turnovers like last year, all bets are off).

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  17. DaVonn J

    If Kobe gets stupid J Craw going to light him and his LA Fakers!!!!

    BE WARNED MY PAL—-BE WARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET’s GO GIANTS!!!!! and the KNICKS too

    By Anti-nysn on Jan 29, 2008

  18. Rank ‘Em: NBA Power Rankings

    http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/rank?versionId=12&listId=46

    By Anti-nysn on Jan 29, 2008

  19. Of course I ranked the Knicks #1,baby!!!!

    By Anti-nysn on Jan 29, 2008

  20. charles fm:

    i don’t get it, you read the post that we put up the ad because it was the same post that announced the addition of the forum.

    in any case, we put up the ad to cover the hosting fee. not much.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  21. you guys probably already saw this:

    crawford tells curry to get open

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  22. Blogzilla,
    Congrats on getting the ads. Like Cooleyhigh and Steady said, “hope the numbers work out”. Lawd knows the time and passion extolled to make this site possible are priceless. Thanks again.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Jan 29, 2008

  23. “That’s where you were reading me all wrong. I’ve always stated that Zach could play with the best of them.”

    Well, there’s never been any doubt about that. Nobody with any sense would argue differently. But if you’re going to compare him with the very best in the game and judge the gap, then the same should be allowed for Curry. The overall gap between zbo and the very best in the game is much smaller than the overall gap between curry and the very best centers in the game. all curry gives you is points in the paint. i challenge you to find something else he consistently brings to his game/team.

    “Now that he’s making the effort, the ball is moving much better. Still no reason in my mind to keep him over Curry.”

    I am flabbergasted that you don’t see why this makes no sense whatsoever considering your knock on zbo. At least i can count on MODI to stick close to reason.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  24. Knicksdefense,

    Everyone of read the intro post to the new bolg format and read you would be
    you would be putting in ads to cover the web costs. My suggestion is to put even more ads
    in the blog as it is well deserved for the #1 Knick blog in the world!

    Tonight …nothing but a WIN is acceptable. Kobe can have 99 points as long as we win!
    This is a game where we can bring “NY SHOWTIME” to LA.
    As far as Curry whineing about him getting the ball? I agree with the poster who stated Curry should get the ball
    more often …like Josh Howard does!!!!! Off rebounds and put backs!!!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  25. Knicksdefense,
    Funny that Craw is making such a demand of Eddy. Of course Craw can get to him because they’re “boys and all”. I don’t recall Stephon having problems feeding Curry on the DL last year after he bought in to the coaching. Furthermore, there were some more knowledgeable pundits here who claimed that the big man-point guard play breakdowns are the fault of the PG. To that blog Steady responded–the culprit shall sit. So now that Stephon has sit down, and we still here about Curry getting open and not being fed at the post, will the next culprit (this time Crawford) sit? Or will Eddy Curry continue to get in shape and be in a fight for 40 mins-min nightly? Craford can’t fight that battle for the bigs, run the point, control the flow of the game, and jack-up crawful shots early in the shot clock. To continue doing so will lead him to flat-brick attempts when the game is already lost. We saw that against GSW. He had no lift and he was winded. Sure, he says in terms of the NBA he has little mileage. He’s a lightly used Chrysler 300 as opposed to a CPO Mercedes or Lexus. OK, maybe he’s Audi! Something or someone will be for shizzle. Just bloggin’.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Jan 29, 2008

  26. Correction..EVERYONE OF US! Sorry!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  27. Peaceman,
    You know what’s good.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Jan 29, 2008

  28. The Knicks should check Curry out for “BONE SPURS.”

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  29. Knicksdee, my bad, either i read it and forgot it or i somehow skipped passed that bit. anyway, no biggie, i wasn’t expressing a value judgement over it just amazed that you’ve reached that level. it’s a good thing, really.

    Still, what is your response to the idea that the forum could be used for ongoing “debates” and the blog for game-day bloggin? is that how you wanted do it?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  30. Folly:
    I almost forgot! Thanks for the compliment! “A boor”
    This topic has been beaten enough.
    Playing with the best of them does not constitute playing team ball.
    I’ve said my piece many times over. There’s nothing left to be said.
    I remain. Add unreasonable to the plethora of adjectives to describe me.

    By African on Jan 29, 2008

  31. Tony Robbins was at the Knicks workout yesterday!
    His speech was introduce your passion into your work!
    After that the knicks support workers went to work.
    The knicks were denied breakfast that morning.
    The workers installed a slot above the square on the back boards and manned either
    basket with two workers on each side of the basket on ladders!
    The Knicks then played a fullgame scrimage. Placed in these ” slots” were a big origional
    chicken breast from KFC on Curry’s defensive Basket. On the offensive basket a Tripple Whopper
    was placed. The results!!!!!!! After the scrimage Curry had 42 rebounds grabbing everthing that
    came off the boards! ” I didn’t grab one freaken rebound said Dave LEE.” Me either said a hungery
    and despondant Balkman! Nate and Crawford complained the the greese from the food Eddy was woofing down
    up and down the court made the ball slippery. I had no problem with the ball slipping said Eddy after he woofed
    down the game ending Whopper! Tony Robbins had made his point!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  32. DEE-FENDERS,

    Peace & Blessings.
    Regarding Curry and the He’s only 24 years old. There are players in the league who are dominant
    even thoug they are Curry’s age and younger. For example age is not being used as an excuse for
    Amare Stoudemire,Dwight Howard,Chris Bosh, Lebron, Carmelo,Luol Deng, & Al Jefferson. Desire & Conditioning
    never enters the conversation w/ these guys. These players have the POTENTIAL to be All-time
    greats. My question for you Curry Supporters/Enablers is, What is Curry Ceiling? Are the Knicks
    waiting for him to become Bob Lanier, Kevin Duckworth,Joe Barry Carrol, fine players. Or do you
    guys expect Curry to join the group of Robert Parrish,Patrick Ewing & Brad Daugherty, not All-time greats,
    but very good players. Please explain the expectations.

    My view on why the knicks are playing better. Less Curry and a quicker pace. The athletes are not
    being forced to slow down and wait on Eddy. This will allow them to maximize their skills. Guys are
    always happy when they are playing their game.

    BTW-He’s been accused of groping a woman,missed a game due to a migraine, and now does not appear to play w/
    Passion. I believe that Jason Kidd may be losing his mind.

    Peace & Blessings

    By Statesman on Jan 29, 2008

  33. Curry turned 25 last month!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  34. States:
    Of your list, name one that can guard Curry.
    I thought you were speaking of Curry in your BTW
    Peace;
    You’re at your best. lol!

    By African on Jan 29, 2008

  35. @ African,

    Curry is an offensive force, granted…but the bigger question is who can CURRY guard???

    We turn the corner as a team if he steps up defensively.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  36. Of the guys who are left my first choice of someone to work with Curry on a “Special Assistant” basis would be John Thompson. Let him have his TV contracts. Let him go when he wants to see his son’s team play. Come in during practice times when he can and work with Curry. View his tapes, find his current weaknesses. Shut up Folly. Show him what he needs to be doing. Work on his aggressiveness offensively and defensively.

    If you can’t (or won’t) get Ewing, why not get the Master?

    If he wouldn’t do it, my next choice would be the possible retiree Alonzo Mourning. This man was all about rebounds and blocks.

    Forget about

    By Jay Bee on Jan 29, 2008

  37. States:
    I don’t agree with your take on why the team is playing better.
    Did you ever see or be part of a team that had a big kid that can play on that team; that can dominate anyone in the league? The other players bust their ass, and throw the ball to him on offense. He scores 90% of the time and your team wins by twenty every game.
    The only problem is that you’re winning, but the other players feel that they’re not part of the team.
    The coaches changes things up and compell the big kid to pass more.
    All of a sudden you’re in tight games. You win, but every game is a nail biter.
    It’s harder on the coach, but all the players feel that they’re part of the group. Harmony finally.
    That was Zach at the begining of the season. Except we lost.
    Zeke has made him buy into the team concept, and now there is ball movement.
    The players are playing better because they’re touching the ball. They’re part of the team again.
    Marbury was part of the equation also. I noticed he was playing like Starbury, and wanting to take on his opponent one on one.
    I think ball movement is the difference.
    Notice Zeke’s words in relation to Zach from the last game. He wanted Zach to play more in the flow of the game.

    By African on Jan 29, 2008

  38. chuck fm:
    i hear you, but for now i like the idea of giving the defenders the freedom to post here or on the forum and see how the forum evolves on its own. I have a couple of pretty good ideas for posts there already, just haven’t sat down to do it yet because it will take some time.

    as far as curry i haven’t given up hope for him yet. his offensive skills have never been in question, but can he stay out of foul trouble AND give up defensive help under the basket? if the answer is no, why not start jeffries or taz at the three instead of q? just bloggin’

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  39. AF-RI-CAN,

    What do you believe is Curry’s Ceiling?

    “On your list, name one that can guard Curry”–African, I could Flip the question and ask you to name
    anyone on the list that Curry could guard. However, I know basketball is more then just scoring points.
    So I would ask, who on that list ranks below Curry in Rebounding, Passing, Shot-blocking, Defense, Intensity
    Conditioning, and some DEE-FENDERS would add Mental Capacity?

    Peace & Blessings

    By Statesman on Jan 29, 2008

  40. AF-RI-CAN,

    I must have missed some games early in the season. When were the Kicks Winning games by Twenty?
    I remember a tough Preseason, and starting the Season 2-1, and then LOSING games by Twenty.
    African, you may be Losing your mind.

    Peace & Blessings

    By Statesman on Jan 29, 2008

  41. I would love to see Zeke issue a challenge to Eddie. For one game, sacrifice the big mans attempts and tell him to go all out on D, glass cleaning, and garbage points around the bucket. I would bet Curry would still put up the same 12 to 15 a night but he would pull down 10 or more rebounds and might even get a block or 2. We do not need big offense from the C position. We have big time scorers in ZBO and Jamal. Getiing to the next level will either be done by having Eddie sacrifice and concentrate on D or getting rid of him all together. I don’t see any other way.

    By JohnQ on Jan 29, 2008

  42. I still think McCurry was the funniest nickname for Curry.
    I think Peaceman made that up….
    Shit is hilarious!!!

    Knicksdefense….congrats on the adds and the new upgrade to the site…
    This site is like home for me (even though I been MIA recently)
    It’s been my homepage since the night we switched over.

    Big game tonight!!!!!!!!!!
    I swear to God if Curry lets Kwame have a career night….I don’t know what I’ll do.
    I think Mihm is back but I could be wrong.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  43. “Playing with the best of them does not constitute playing team ball.”

    hey man, what do you need? you say “team ball” means more passin, so he’s out there passin his ass off. so i say, IF things stay as they are now THEN would you drop curry in favour of zach (if you had to choose one to keep) and you still continue to swing from curry’s chicken balls. it sounds fraudulent, man. it sure sounds like zbo could turn into garnett right before your eyes and it wouldn’t matter at all.

    as for being boorish and bullying, hey, if it fits, it fits. those aren’t descriptors for MODI, Lives, Knicksdee or lots of other dudes in here. it’s just been your M.O. af. don’t mean you ain’t fams. you’re not the enemy.

    knicksdee, ok cool.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  44. DVJ–is Bynum still hurt?

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  45. just did the research. bynum is out six more weeks.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  46. also noteworthy: crawford loves to play the lakers, especially in L.A.

    i believe he had a 50 point game there once, didn’t he?

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  47. KD,

    That was Houston, wasn’t it ?

    By JohnQ on Jan 29, 2008

  48. yeah, right on johnQ.

    h20 scored 50 against lakers.

    crawford did 50+ against the heat.

    but crawford does do well against the lakers.

    and the last time i saw the knicks play in LA crawford and kobe were trading buckets throughout the game.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  49. #40,
    one of the best posts this year that can be called ” The Truth!”

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  50. #30, Peace, you’re a few screws short of loose woman. Haha. Good stuff.

    By BARF on Jan 29, 2008

  51. Re: “The Truth” - That challenge has been issued to Eddy over and over again. He hasn’t responded to that. Hopefully Coach Pine can get through to Eddy. I’m not understanding why you guys are on an either/or with Eddy and Zach. Keep em both. What’s wrong with that?

    By Jay Bee on Jan 29, 2008

  52. “Zach Randolph had five assists by halftime Sunday, just one in the second half.

    “Zach would’ve almost had a triple-double if he just stayed satisfied with the game he was having,” Thomas said. “

    This is an interesting tidbit out of Berman’s article.

    It suggest that Isiah is supporting what AF has been talking about.

    In the second half, GS was laying off Zach and singling him with Stephen Jackson. Rather than noticing the switch in gameplan, understanding that he can’t beat Jacks off the dribble and passing the ball back out on the perimeter…Zach tried hoisting up too-early jumpshots or trying to force his way into the post for forced shots. That ruined a couple of possessions and he soon found himself on the bench. When he returned in the fourth it happened again.

    I think Zeke’s comment exposes his philosophy with GS (and in turn other fast paced/uptempo teams). We need ball movement. We need defenses to shift and switch. That is the only way to get our bigs involved in games where teams double and triple and still have the speed to recover out on the perimeter against our shooters.

    If your roster is flawed and your team lacks balance and you still want to win, you HAVE TO play the team game consistently. No breaks.

    Had Zach been satisfied with the TYPE OF success he was having against GS, he would have had less points than usual, a few less rebounds (maybe more considering how little minutes he played) and a lot more assist than usual.

    I think Zach does not realize how much of an impact he has on the other team’s defense with the ball in his hands.

    The best lineups in the GS were with ZBo on the floor and yet, he did force the scoring issue…he did have problems going up against Capt Jacks.

    By BARF on Jan 29, 2008

  53. JB,

    @50….. Because they don’t compliment ea/ other. If you have a scoring PF who is weakish on the D , then you need a shot blocker/intimidator as a C. If you have an offensive C who is weak in the D department, then you need a monster glass cleaner/enforcer as a PF.

    All parts on a team have to mesh, no matter how good they look as individual pieces.

    By JohnQ on Jan 29, 2008

  54. “if Curry lets Kwame have a career night”

    I’ll go crazy DVJ.

    By BARF on Jan 29, 2008

  55. @MODI, be careful, cause FollY is persistent and and rather relentless…

    shit, you think I don’t know. Folly is like a pit bull! :-) But I respect it. He plays fair and I ain’t Michael Vick!

    States, Curry RIGHT NOW is far superior to Kevin Duckworth and I am fine with that. He has all Duckworth’s weaknesses, but could shoot 100 % points higher! And if he ever had a dirty-work guy guy like Buck Williams next to him who can rebound like Zach, score less but shoot a far higher %; and defend tough forwards, then you may see Curry become an all-star. The Buck Williams trade was a drastic difference maker that turned around a very talented but poorly constructed Portland team (sound familiar?). They immediately went to the finals. Why? Because he COMPLEMENTED Duckworth and the other scorers! Williams shot 55%, 60%, and 60% in his first 3 years. Buck understood that with a team that had Duckworth, Drexler, Porter, and Kersey HIS POINTS WERE NOT NEEDED! Buck CHANGED HIS GAME and only took higher % shots. If Zach understood this concept, then he would knock off those bullshit cringe-worthy 18 footers, and leave it to others to get a higher % shot. Wow! He might even find himself under the boards to rebound the misses and add one or two extra rebounds to his totals every night!

    I’ll say it again. Eddy hasn’t LEARNED how to play the game efficiently. Despite flashes, Zach doesn’t WANT to. If Zach were to get 8 points & 15 boards and the Knicks WIN, Zach would not be happy. And I think that is what isiah was trying to say in his comments.

    PS: Bill Cartwright couldn’t rebound or block a shot worth a damn, but I never remember him getting the Curry treatment. Sure plenty “Medical Bill” jokes, but that’s about it.

    PPS: Damn! I promised i wouldnt cry :-)! …or get started on the Eddy-Zach thing again! …but after seeing 793 Eddy-hateration posts in the last few weeks I fell off the wagon again… isn’t their some kind of Betty Ford clinic for Knick Defenders… how do you unwind African!

    By MODI on Jan 29, 2008

  56. “I’m not understanding why you guys are on an either/or with Eddy and Zach. Keep em both. What’s wrong with that?”

    nuthin — as long as you limit eddy’s minutes.

    “Zach Randolph had five assists by halftime Sunday, just one in the second half.

    “Zach would’ve almost had a triple-double if he just stayed satisfied with the game he was having,” Thomas said.

    This is an interesting tidbit out of Berman’s article.

    It suggest that Isiah is supporting what AF has been talking about.”

    Right. See, i look at that a different way. i say this is about COACHING. a good coach knows who he has, who he’s dealing with and works with that. coach should know zbo likes to get his. coach should know that 5 assists from zbo in one half (nevermind over the course of a whole game) is way against his natural instincts. a good coach recognizes this and gives him a lil nudge of encouragement, mebbe even gives him a lil public praise in the lockerroom at halftime.

    after that first half, it is REASONABLE for zbo to think, “hey, i’ve helped out plenty, it’s time for me to get a lil taste.” he’s a scorer, that’s what he enjoys doing most. now, is it the right attitude for that moment or game? is it what garnett or tim duncan might think? perhaps not. but is it FAIR and REASONABLE? i think so.

    one assist in a half works out, if my math is correct, to about two assists over the course of a full game. it’s been pointed out ad nauseum that zbo’s not a natural passer, but i keep pointing out that for a busy power forward, he’s still about average.

    zeke is at his machiavellian best trying to shift blame away from his own deficiencies as a coach (whaaat?! you mean the coach can have an effect on close games like this? hush yo’ mouth!) and on to any scapegoat available. i’ve been antsy about putting him down as there aren’t too many black coaches in the biz, but after seeing my man sam mitchell and mcmillan (and, sure, doc rivers — what great coach went without great players?) i am comfortable bawling out that zeke is a terrible coach.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  57. @MODI, be careful, cause FollY is persistent and and rather relentless…

    shit, you think I don’t know. Folly is like a pit bull! :-) But I respect it. He plays fair and I ain’t Michael Vick!”

    oh, puhleeeze, i’m waay more scurred of MODI than he is of me. garunteed! anywayz, we’z jus horsin around. after bangin each other on the court we’d be off for a brew at the bar (kissy-kissy).

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  58. I really like the way this team is playing right now, and this team is capable of playing 500 ball or a little better until a thoughtful, un-paniced trade presents itself.Eddie,stop being selfish and stupid, get in shape and all will be forgiven.Curry can’t be traded because you have no one better for the forseeable future.James?he’ll be in shape just in time for the Nathan’s hot dog gala.Then there is Curry’s upside, as opposed to backside, if he actually decided to get in shape this summer.Actually, he looks like he’s lost a few, but obviously not near enough.How a guy in his shape can watch Biedrens get a career high 26 rebounds,(You were out there for some of that smackdown Ed)and then say he should be playing more is, dare I say,”delusional”.GET IN SHAPE AND MAKE EVERYONE BETTER, OR SHUT UP!You can’t pick the players you want to play against!Still, you have to gamble on his “Po”, that’s his potential, not poor eating habits.We lost that game in GS because E can’t defend, move to the ball or get off his feet quickly despite his great lift.Ike never should have put him in the game.Let him play early and then forget him until he shows something besides showing up on time.It’s tough being a millionaire isn’t it.I’m sure your boss is just as understanding when you can’t deliver on your job!The team, on the other cheek,is beginning to attack with the pass and create situations where guys can score better.The team offense should create situations where guys can use their skills.Everyone can’t and shouldn’t have to beat their man off the dribble.Haven’t we learned anything from the Romans?The defense has picked up a lot.Good stuff is happening and that should be nurtured.A trade now while guys are beginning to really grow is counterproductive, unless of course it’s JKidd, too old for us right now, but watch out for a possible new home in Dallas which I noted during last season’s playoffs.You don’t think so?The Post today reports Kidd has been trying to get there all season.Nate also needs to keep growing, along with Balkman.Hmmm, seems like they were doing a lot of what they are now doing during the summer, who was their coach?Which genius on the bench finally decided to let them play?And remember,Chandler has not even been used yet, so there are a lot of growing possibilities here without a stupid trade.Strange how Marbury, a very talented, but hugely discontented young man, had to sit before guys could start to grow and Curry, who is at a huge disadvantage,physically (shapewise, and defensively), had to sit major minutes, before we could look like a team.Just limit Curry’s minutes to when he stops defending effectively, trade that bookstop, J.James, for a little depth, save your job and let’s go Knicks!

    Steal this book!I guess I just showed my age.
    Brand new in the ‘brary, “Everything You Wanted to Know About the NY Knicks”.This book has a page or two on every player and coach who EVER played for the Knicks.Fascinating, and includes the present team.Published 07 by a guy from the BK.This is a closer if you like to argue Knick stuff.I might have to buy it!
    Interesting choice of pic on the cover, DeBuch snatching the rock.
    Lives, the Celts are in a little bit of crisis.Winning by one point over the Wolves is not a great endorsement.I won’t even count Orlando because KG didn’t play.They are desperate for a backup at the one.If they don’t get Stoudemire, there could be trouble in Beanville.Oh yeah!LET”S GO GIANTS!!!!LET”S GO KNICKS!!!
    Oh yeah, yeah, ye of little faith!I wonder how many of us would be looking good if we went back into the KK archives and got a read back on who wanted KG in NY?There were a whole lot of people down on “The Ultimate Warrior”.Bottom line, we should have tried a lot harder to get him.How you like him now, fella!Let’s not make another stupid mistaken trade.I like our chances, tonite!LGK, all the way!

    By Tman on Jan 29, 2008

  59. “brews” not brew!

    By MODI on Jan 29, 2008

  60. hey MODI, we can all run over to basketball-reference.com and peep out Duckworth vs Curry. Thing is, my money’s on Duckworth if it was him an Curry in a cage match.

    p.s. you set me up with two legends and i’ll put bargnani in at center and still do well. exceptions to prove the rule (that the first role of a center is to defend the peach basket)

    p.p.s. i know i need me some kd methodone! :D

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  61. “Strange how Marbury, a very talented, but hugely discontented young man, had to sit before guys could start to grow”

    fallacy.

    – Nate started his January growth playing alongsoide Marbury

    – Balkman’s new minutes happened after marbury left but were an unrelated occurence. All of us have been screaming for him to play Balkman all year.

    – Isiah also started playing Zach and Eddy less minutes together.

    If it was as simple as subtracting Marbury then we wouldn’t have gone 3-9 in December without him. And no, i don’t buy these psychological effect theories.

    shit, i must be in a mood today… rehashing old shit…

    – Why Isiah waited

    By MODI on Jan 29, 2008

  62. Modi,

    Peace & Blessings

    I disagree w/ Eddy being a better shooter. Eddy’s range is limited and therefore he shoots only
    5-ft and in. Duck would shoot face-up jumper, and attempt shots further away from the basket.

    When Eddy scored pts. against San Antone, he was happy even though the team lost. Eddy just wants
    points, that’s it.

    Af-ri-can answer my question, before Rockstar comes after you. I cannot get over the other DEE-FENDERS
    treating you as if you were a VICTIM!! Mr. no Kissy Kissy, C’mon African, refuse those Kisses.

    Peace & Blessings

    By Statesman on Jan 29, 2008

  63. Folly, basketball reference supports Curry, not Duck.

    BTW, we have to stop this strict PF vs. Center thing. In today’s NBA half the centers are converted power forwards. If you have one big who can’t play D, then you gotta make sure the other one does. Whether it is the PF or center does not matter so much in TODAY’s NBA. You have the good defender on the best player. (i.e. like Kurt Thomas playing Tim Duncan for the Suns when it counted)

    By MODI on Jan 29, 2008

  64. States, I guess my point is that the Knicks don’t NEED the face-up. I LIKE that Curry only shoots 5 footers, shoots them at a high %, gets the other big in foul trouble, and puts the Knicks in the penalty.

    By MODI on Jan 29, 2008

  65. Oh yes. peace and blessings!

    By MODI on Jan 29, 2008

  66. I love the passion Defenders. I will say once again and African, please advise, Ego & Essence. Defenders please look closely into this phrase. This is what teams like San Antonio and Detroit have had consisently for the last 8 years. Both organizations are class personified but yet very quietly confident. It starts at the top and trickles down to the floor. Tim Duncan is an non athletic Superstar nobody goes bananas over. The Pistons don’t even have a quote superstar. Yet they demoralize their opponents with cloak and dagger. Our Knicks have as much talent as anyone but lack the ego and essence it takes to rise above the MSN and their own buffoonery from the front office to the floor. We are flawed neck up. Advise Defenders and come correct.

    By Vic Corbit on Jan 29, 2008

  67. I looked up Duckworth at BR.com a while back and i seem to recall the comparison being about apt. But i’ll look at it again later tonight and tell you what i see. in any event, unless duckworth is your example of a typical chips center it doesn’t really matter if curry’s a little better. i’m not looking at the freak exception case, i’m slidin past the well-it-COULD-happen opportunites and i’m focussing on what’s going to give me the best chance at success. one thing that’s common to all chips teams is a starting lineup of hard-headed ballers. curry can’t hang.

    as for the “big man” thing, yes, in “today’s” nba, it’s no longer weird to see a guy who would ordinarily play center play power forward instead or vice versa. doesn’t mean the positions are interchangeable. because TD and KG have amazing ball-handling/PF skills, it’s an advantage to play them at that position given their natural size advantage.

    undersized centers like ben wallace or amare stoudamire can get away with playing that role b/c of freakish hops and a near prescient sense of timing. these are still exceptions. there are distinct roles for these positions and any simple statistical analysis will bear that out. and that’s ok.

    at the end of the day, curry does not have PF skills and zbo can not replace a traditional center so we HAVE TO look at them in with respect to their specific positions.

    p.s. MODI i admire your boost-the-underdog instincts, but af is a big man, he don’t need no help ;-)

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  68. co-signed Vic @#65

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  69. MODI….

    Your starting to sound like Pink Eye with your Marbury praise.
    What’s our record ever since Marbury went down recently? I think it’s above 500…I could be wrong.

    Curry and Steph are not what we need to go to the next level.
    However, I will live with Curry for now because he doesn’t make that much as far as salary goes.
    I think he’ll max out at like 11 million in 2 years. Not a bad investment for us.
    If he would’ve maxed out his potential it would be a different story. Looks like he won’t so we
    can play his fat ass sparingly. I think it’s safe to say he’ll never have it.

    Marbury on the other hand has no excuse….

    MODI
    1) HE LEFT THE TEAM!!
    2) HIS TRACK RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF (WITH HIS PREVIOUS TEAMS)
    3) HE MAKES OVER 20 MILLION A YEAR AND HE CAN’T GRASP A SIMPLE CONCEPT FOR A CONSISTENT PERIOD OF TIME (BEING A TEAM PLAYER)
    4) THE REST OF THE TEAM VOTED FOR HIM NOT TO PLAY

    Of course the Knicks are going to say they miss him in front of the medias cameras (thanks public relations)
    but you, I and everybody here knows we don’t want him on our team any longer.

    He has outstayed his welcome…..
    May he have a blessed career from here on.
    WE WON’T SEE HIM IN A KNICK UNIFORM AGAIN!!!!!!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  70. Some good reads.
    Barf at #51.
    Zeke saw that a while back, and it’s the same thing I’ve been talking about.
    Zach can dominate the game without the scoring, but is he willing to?
    Modi at #54
    Thanks. I couldn’t have said it better…..On second thought, I’ve been saying it forever. Great post.
    How do I unwind? Just the thought that the popular opinion is not genarally the right on gives me sloace.
    Folly:
    You may be the only person to read that quote from Zeke and got what you stated.
    You were the one that felt that Zeke’s “This ain’t Syracuse.” Meant that Nichols was a good defensive player in College.
    Go figure.

    By African on Jan 29, 2008

  71. MET’S JUST GOT SANTANA FROM MINNY!!!

    MIAMI — Boston Celtics center Kevin Garnett will miss the game against the Miami Heat on Tuesday because of a strained abdominal muscle, the second straight game he will miss because of the injury.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  72. “You were the one that felt that Zeke’s “This ain’t Syracuse.” Meant that Nichols was a good defensive player in College.”

    see, this is why i’m gonna dig the forum. easier to find actual quotes and context, harder to twist stuff later. anyway, nichols WAS a good defensive player in college (even tho cuse mostly played zone). look. it. up.

    anyway, my challenge still stands, af. you addressing it or duckin it?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  73. Ok, let’s just take this off-line to the forum, shall we? I’ve set up the official thread so we can keep track of our points.

    LGK!

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  74. Anybody seen Tom?

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  75. Barf,

    re: Zach’s 2nd half play vs. Jax, the guards had difficulty feeding him in the post and Zach decided to come out to the wing and face Jax. Bad move. When the guards cannot get Zach the ball, he loses patience and comes out to the wing. If the guards would have gotten him the ball in the post, he would have killed Jackson. Mardy was getting the ball to him without any problems.

    Curry is not wrong about the guards feeding him the ball. That’s why I do not like Nate for extended minutes.

    We need Mardy to step up.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 29, 2008

  76. Statesman,
    I appreciate your steadiness as you see through all things. ;-)

    Good to read you here Coach. You were missed.

    DVJ,
    I’ll advance you a Just Bloggin to keep that post in play.

    Hanners may survive the Monty Meltdown. Just Bloggin’.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Jan 29, 2008

  77. DVJ

    good post on curry/marbury. you’re right: we can live with curry as long as the coach benches him as soon as he becomes a liability every night. And unless the guards are feeding him the ball in the post, he is totally useless. Therefore, unless Mardy is in the game, Curry should be on the bench.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 29, 2008

  78. I wasn’t just bloggin on my posts Steady…

    I was being straight up!!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  79. If the Lakers get Kidd without giving up Bynum or Kobe….
    They will win the title….HANDS DOWN.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  80. In asking for Tom too?
    Isn’t it remarkable how KnicksDefense remains cancer free sans Trolls? Blogzilla must be using the Baygon without our knowledge. Whatever it takes.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Jan 29, 2008

  81. Tom is wipeing Turkoglu’s wet shitty fart off his face!

    @ Harlem in Md.

    I’ve watched the replays of the last game. The problem with Curry
    is there is not room for anything but a perfect pass! Eddy sees the ball
    coming and goes backward instead of coming to the ball! That shit will get
    picked even if it’s 98% accurate, because of Curry’s lazy ASS!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  82. True Peace. I remember him fumbling the ball off a good pass from Craw in the post. He also was stripped by a GS guard after a rebound in the game. I thought he had great hands? I don’t know why he can’t hold the ball like a big man anymore.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 29, 2008

  83. HarleminMD

    Regarding Curry

    “I remember him [Curry] fumbling the ball off a good pass from Craw in the post. He also was stripped by a GS guard after a rebound in the game. I thought he had great hands? I don’t know why he can’t hold the ball like a big man anymore.”

    You wanna know why?

    It’s b/c his hands are dripped with KFC chicken grease.

    See if you feed his big ass taffy and sticky sugary stuff it’ll be like he has those tacky finger gloves on!

    LOL!

    Just bloggin!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  84. Here’s an example of Curry’s immature basketball IQ that may have cost us last game!
    Curry slams the ball home 3.2 seconds before halftime. Happy with himself, he turns
    and runs at a snails pace down court smileing???? What would of KG done at that point? KG would
    have pressured the inbounding passer, thus making it unlikely that Baron Davis launches
    that trey! Just bloggin!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  85. “You wanna know why?

    It’s b/c his hands are dripped with KFC chicken grease.

    See if you feed his big ass taffy and sticky sugary stuff it’ll be like he has those tacky finger gloves on!”

    OH LAAWWWD!! ROTFLMBAO!! *wipes tears* man, i’m gonna be gigglin all night.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  86. jus bloggin here, but what do you think of this mebbe-not-so-wild idea:

    zeke’s managed to sell dolan on keeping him with the following memes:

    1) thanks to LB, any big-name coach is scurred of working for dolan
    2) he can attract draw big-name free agents (e.g. J.O., artest)

    is that a pitch that works on dolan?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  87. Damn Tom,

    No KG or Ray Ray tonight.
    Looks like you’ll be losing your 3rd game in 4 tries.

    How does it feel to be under 500 in your last 10 games? (including tonight’s game)

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  88. Then to make matters worse TOM…your next game is against the Mavs LOL

    Not looking to good over there now huh?
    We told you injuries will be the problem earlier in the season.
    Talk about Fool’s Gold

    They lack a back up PG (we told ya so)
    They lack a bench period (we told ya so)
    Injuries would catch up with them (we told ya so)

    If or should I say when NY beats New England this Sunday….that will really get you Beaners upset!!
    AMD the Met’s got Santana and the Red Sox didn’t LOL.

    I love NY!!!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  89. Folly:
    Ha!

    By African on Jan 29, 2008

  90. OFF TOPIC…. howzabout a lil fun at the Knicks Fix’ expense (be patient or get some more ram).

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  91. OFF TOPIC… bored? here’s a lil fun at the Knicks Fix’ expense :D (be patient)

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  92. hm. mic check…. is the system eating posts?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  93. weird. i’ll try again….

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  94. OFF TOPIC… bored? here’s a lil fun at the Knicks Fix’ expense :D (be patient now)

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  95. click here for a couple yuks

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  96. mic check. yahoo?

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  97. “after bangin each other on the court we’d be off for a brew at the bar (kissy-kissy).”

    ChuckFM,

    Woe, in these days and times u might want to rephrase that

    Peaceman, that was some funny stuff earlier regarding Robbins motivating Eddy.

    Wish it were true, though! If it takes tying some hamburgers near the rim for Curry to rebound I won’t mind—whatever works!

    Doing a little more thinking on your post—wouldn’t it be something—if that was true, Curry would lead the league in rebounding, but unfortunately be the fattest player to ever play the game. Getting fat while rebounding!!! For Curry it might work!!!

    Tim Robbins’s the best!

    By Anti-nysn on Jan 29, 2008

  98. ok, so the system will not allow me to make this link in the comment box so just copy-paste into your browser for a lil fun at the Knicks Fix’ expense ;-) :D (be patient)

    http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=creampie&destruction=massive&url=http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  99. Anti: oh SNAP!! i can’t believe i didn’t see that :D wow. ok let me add the requisite “no homo” to that then.

    http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=creampie&destruction=massive&url=http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  100. Anti: oh SNAP!! i can’t believe i didn’t see that :D wow. ok let me add the requisite “no homo” to that then.

    paste these two bits in your browser for some off-topic fun at the knicks fix’ expense (be patient now)

    http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=creampie&destruction

    =massive&url=http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  101. Anti: oh SNAP!! i can’t believe i didn’t see that :D wow. ok let me add the requisite “no homo” to that then.

    paste these 3 bits in your browser for some off-topic fun at the knicks fix’ expense (be patient now)

    http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php

    ?mode=creampie&destruction

    =massive&url=http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 29, 2008

  102. Peaceman @ 83

    On point in that analogy!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  103. Good Evening Defenders

    Here we go again.

    Is it possible to win tonite?….YES……….will we……???????

    We need FJones to try and slow down KB.

    Zach has to score, I believe KB may play Crawford on “d” and try to shut him down….not a bad idea if LA.

    N8 could be the key again.I won’t speak about Curry but more than 3 rebounds will help.

    Question: Was it me dreaming or did I hear the”FIRE ISIAH” chant at Golden State on Sunday?

    Either way……GO KNICKS!!!

    By D L T Knicks on Jan 29, 2008

  104. D L T,

    Kobe cant guard Jamal—he would need help—believe me!

    By Anti-nysn on Jan 29, 2008

  105. Anti

    Gonna disagree on that one. Kobe is one of the better defensive guards in the league. He made first all-defensive team many times. Don’t think he can hold Jamal to single digits,but he can make it tough on him to get off his shot.

    By D L T Knicks on Jan 29, 2008

  106. Can’t we bang up Kobe by setting picks and getting Crawford open on curls or on a pick and roll option with Z-Bo. I mean crawford’s been coming off pretty sweetly on those curls plays as of recently (knock on wood), surely the Knicks could make Kobe’s prospects of gaurding J-Craw harder by making him go through some rough and tumble picks. Perhaps that will also wear on him on the offensive end.

    DVJ’s answer… You guys be dreaming, Mamba’s a flash scorer and he’s scoring like he never done scored before!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  107. B&B

    I hope that’s in the game plan.Make Kobe work on the defensive end.Then again many team stay away from the Kobe match up b/c he averages 1.98 steals a game(10th in the league).

    By D L T Knicks on Jan 29, 2008

  108. . Don’t think he can hold Jamal to single digits,but he can make it tough on him to get off his shot.

    DLT,

    Wait and see—and watch carefully with an analytical eye(thanks Af) and u will come to realize why Jamal C goes by the name —-”You Can’t Guard Me”

    kobe has to learn like the rest!

    By Anti-nysn on Jan 29, 2008

  109. Since DVJ is not living up to his part, I will for him!
    Lakers 112 Knicks 93.

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  110. DLT

    You think Jamal could be used to wear down Kobe through screens, by “making him work” as you say, and using Crawford as a decoy to take Kobe out of the role of a free range defenders?

    Also if Kobe is overly agresive trying to close out on Jamal as he comes off some curls would that not draw Kobe off the post players or other players that may be left open, by design or otherwise?

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  111. Peacemand

    You’re giving the Knicks too much credit.

    Lakers 117

    Knicks 88

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  112. B&B,

    “Can’t we bang up Kobe by setting picks and getting Crawford open on curls or on a pick and roll option with Z-Bo. ”

    That would most definiely work—it worked last year when the Knicks swept the LA Fakers with one win against Kobe.

    After the last game last season—-Kobe had high praise for Jamal Crawford!!! I can go back and get the article if anyone here in doubt. Test me, I’ll do it. Kobe somewhat admitted that JC is a tough guard too.

    By ANTI- NYSN on Jan 29, 2008

  113. 35 minutes till game time

    Let’s Go Giants

    Met got Santana—Let’s Go Mets

    Knicks lets go too, unlimited burgers for Curry if we win tonight!!!

    By ANTI- NYSN on Jan 29, 2008

  114. You’re giving the Knicks too much credit.

    Lakers 117

    Knicks 88

    Black and Blue are u serious?

    By ANTI- NYSN on Jan 29, 2008

  115. Anti,
    It a thing that started when we started winning,
    DVJ would predict a blow out score and the knicks would win!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  116. Knicksdefense,
    looking at the action this site gets…
    maybe Isola will buy an ad for his blog? lol

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  117. All-Sleeper Team: These guys deserve your attention
    By John Hollinger
    ESPN Insider
    (Archive)

    Nate Robinson, Knicks
    In our zest to chronicle the assorted sideshows at Madison Square Garden these days, we perhaps have missed a story right in front of our faces — Robinson’s development into a real, live NBA player. It doesn’t seem possible that a 5-foot-9 shooting guard can cut the mustard, but in his third pro season, Robinson is pumping in 20.6 points per 40 minutes and, even more shockingly, snaring 5.0 rebounds.

    Of late, Stephon Marbury’s absence has given Robinson a bigger opportunity to shine, and he’s taken full advantage. In 14 January games, Robinson has averaged 14.7 points and 4.7 assists and shot 47.1 percent; in fact, he and Jamal Crawford form a far more effective backcourt than anything else the Knicks have tried over the past couple of years, which is one reason the team’s play has improved of late.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 29, 2008

  118. Yo Anti

    I thought you knew of DVJ’s reverse mojo routine.

    He aint doing it tonight, so far.

    I think he secretly wants the Lakers to win so he can wax poetic about the Mamba!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  119. Anti…Jamals nickname is “Can’t Guard Anybody”

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  120. Uh OH…..
    The DVJ reverse mojo is in effect! Now Jamal is gonna be a beast on both ends tonight!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  121. Here’s to you DVJ

    Para guardar la Mamba

    Para guardar la Mamba

    Se necesita una trapa agresiva

    Una trapa agresiva para no perder

    para no perder para no perder

    Atrapar la Mamba

    Gaurdar la Mamba

    Guardar la Mamba

    It’s a derivative of Los Lobos classic La Bamba, which was refitted by Ricky Valens.

    Very appropos since Valens and Los Lobos are from the LA area!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  122. We will see if Tony Robbins therapy works!
    Remember Eddy, on Defense the ball is a free KFC chicken breast.
    On offense the ball is a tripple Whopper! Get Hungery Eddy!!! LOL

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  123. TRADE KIDD TO THE WOLVES!!!!!!!
    HE DESERVES IT!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  124. Game time is around the corner.

    Tonight the New York Knicks square of against Kobe Bryant and the Lakers.

    This is the second stop of the Knicks’ 5 game western road trip.

    The night before, the Knicks fell short in a very competitve game against the Golden State Warriors.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  125. ok, guys thanks for the info!

    Anti…Jamals nickname is “Can’t Guard Anybody”

    Comment by DaVonn Jefferson — January 29, 2008 @ 10:13 pm

    Davonne got jokes!!! lol

    By ANTI- NYSN on Jan 29, 2008

  126. LMAO @ 113

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  127. Peace & Blessings

    Steady,- I caught the bounce pass, thanks.

    Peaceman, You are putting out some Crazy Shyt, @114LMAO

    Peace & Blessings

    By Statesman on Jan 29, 2008

  128. Collins gets to start tonight the rest are Curry, Q, Craw, and Z-Bo

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  129. 9 games in 14 days ….ON THE ROAD!!

    Jesus!!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  130. McDonald’s is considering a new marketing idea that will center, pun intended, on the big calories of Eddy Curry.

    To be called:

    The McCurry Flurry.

    Loaded with calories and gauranteed to slow you down.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  131. Odom to the bucket uncontested.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  132. Curry shot it against the double team and missed…let’s point that out.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  133. Nice alley oop from Collins to Q!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  134. MARDY COLLINS!!!

    By knicksdefnese on Jan 29, 2008

  135. Damn, nice pass from Mardy on the alley-oop…didn’t know Q could still go up and get that.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  136. Walton pushed off!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  137. Noted @ post 124…

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  138. good challenge by curry. don’t give them that dunk curry make them earn it!

    By knicksdefnese on Jan 29, 2008

  139. Curry gets teh foul call on an agressive shot block attempt against Brown.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  140. No box out for Curry…Kwame got the offensive rebound…

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  141. Curry lite (Kwame) is on the line….lol

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  142. Knicks look a little sloppy to start the game.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  143. bad passby zbo. give him the turnover.

    By knicksdefnese on Jan 29, 2008

  144. Bad pass Zach!!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  145. Crawford under the screen

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  146. Brown off a feed from Kobe

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  147. which one of the defenders predicted kwame having his way?

    you guys are geniuses.

    By knicksdefnese on Jan 29, 2008

  148. Curry draws a foul will go to the line.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  149. When the shot goes up…watch how Curry just fades away from the rim.
    I’m not even playing…watch him on shot attempts.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  150. The Knicks can run on these Lakers!
    Watch what happens with Nate,Lee, and Taz come in!!!!!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  151. we haven’t gotten into our game yet. i’m not sure what our game is tonight, but we haven’t gotten into it yet…

    By knicksdefnese on Jan 29, 2008

  152. Mamba cutting ot the basket like a hot knife to butter.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  153. FLop!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  154. Where is the interior presence????

    (Rhetorical question)….

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  155. Clearly an offensive foul on Curry.
    He has 2 and is out the game.

    I don’t want to hear shit about his minutes.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  156. 8 points by Brown

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  157. Thank God..Nate and Lee are in the game.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  158. It’s amazing how Zeke, whom I always considered a “master motivator” can’t get thru to Curry to play like a fuggin’ big man…..

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  159. damn it’s like clockwork isn’t it?

    every game, curry with foul trouble, sits early.

    here comes d lee.

    clockwork i tell you.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  160. pretty weird to hear three guys calling a msg knick game. are they trying to be abc or something?

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  161. Jamal can you try to play a little defense?

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 29, 2008

  162. WTF…Kwame hasn’t scored 8 points ALL SEASON!!!!!

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  163. kobe is having his way early and we are in trouble if that is the case.

    i say bring in taz and see if he can do anything.

    bring in TAZ!

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  164. Pathetic!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  165. you know the lakers were going to come out focused to really play because they just lost on national tv to the cavs. kobe is going to give it 110% tonight to help his team win.

    mcCurry, maybe 65% :D

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  166. oh snap, a gang of heads in here early in the game

    too bad the game sucks so far.

    18-8 LA 5 minutes left in the first

    Curry already out with 2 fouls? Damn.

    Kwame with 10 pts already? Damn.

    DVJ, asking JCraw to play good D on Kobe is like asking Curry to help out on D.

    By BARF on Jan 29, 2008

  167. I say give Chandler a shot…

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  168. Get Zach out for now…put TAZ in and run the hell
    out of these lakers!!!!

    By Peaceman on Jan 29, 2008

  169. It’s been mentioned before, Monty starts the game with a defensively defficient lineup.

    What’s worse Curry doesn’t play both sides of the ball gets into quick fould trouble yadda yadda.

    Some fualt goes on Monty

    Monty get a clue you fucking turd!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 29, 2008

  170. no seriously, i’m still rooting for you curry. get in shape so you can help this team. just because zach is here doesn’t mean you cant be a factor…

    why is kobe telling the fans to stay home? does he think he controls that much of the world?

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  171. Kobe on Jamal

    kobe with a foul

    By ANTI- NYSN on Jan 29, 2008

  172. JCraw for three after faking an entry pass to ZBo. Knicks 12

    By BARF on Jan 29, 2008

  173. there goes jamal with the bomb. i tell you this guy likes to play in LA.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  174. Kobe is about a cryin, whinin’ azz…

    Great pass from Craw to DLee….

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 29, 2008

  175. QRich with a good defensive play

    JCraw with a miss

    QRich with another good defensive play on Kobe..

    DLee with a hoop off a JCraw no look pass

    Knicks 14

    By BARF on Jan 29, 2008

  176. BARF Johnson in the house!
    ANTI in the house!
    we’re rolling deep tonight, we better get the win…

    By knicksdefense on Jan 29, 2008

  177. Nate in on DFisher…can’t keep him in front of him. Zbo picks up a foul

    By BARF on Jan 29, 2008

  178. Kobe gonna have his work cut out for him he remains