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Knicks@Warriors

January 27, 2008 – 8:43 pm

Warriors…  Come out to playyyyy.

Rematch.  They blew us out last time and they didn’t even have their whole squad at the time.

Warriors are an interesting team to me because they continue to play well in the western conference despite certain handicaps I thought they had:

1. they lost a big part of their offensive production when Jason Richardson was sent packing to the Bobcats.

2.  their rookie Belinelli, who was tearing up the summer league, has not been a factor thus far in the regular season.

3.  the guy they got back for Jason Richardson, Brandan Wright from North Carolina, has not been a factor yet either.

So how does Nellie’s squad do it, you ask?  Well, the have Baron Davis healthy and playing tremendous basketball, they have the kid Isiah was thinking about drafting Monta Ellis (or as I like to call him, Iverson, Jr.) picking up the slack and contributing with his scoring ability and of course they have two great players in Stephen Jackson and Al Harrington doing their thing on the court.  They have the making of a real team, and although their defense isn’t that great, they’re averaging just under 110 ppg, so this team just tries to out run you and out gun you.  Biedrins is their answer to David Lee, very similar double-double hustle player, but Biedrins is a little taller and blocks a couple more shots every now and then.  They also have our old friend Matt Barnes, who will probably hit at least one three tonight against us, and another role player named Azubuke, who can score the basketball.

Anybody catch the second half of the Lakers-Cavs game?  They had Van Gundy, Mike Breen and Mark Jackson calling the game together.  Talk about people familiar with dolan-signed paychecks.  Yet there was no mention of the knicks, no cheap shots like there were during the Boston Massacre, probably because Kobe vs LeBron is enough entertainment for one night.  That was a good game.  I thought for sure once Varejao got hurt with the ankle injury that the Lakers would take it, but LeBron is basically unstoppable and even locked down Kobe on a few plays in the fourth (sorry DVJ).  They had some problems with the shot clock that altered the outcome of the game but down the stretch, the lakers could not get a final shot off to send the game to OT.  Kobe got out Kobed by LBJ…

So here we go, game one of the second half of the season for this Knicks basketball team.

LGK!

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  1. 275 Responses to “Knicks@Warriors”

  2. GO KNICKS! This one is either going to be sweet or very ugly. I’m shooting for sweet :)

    By Marzak on Jan 27, 2008 at 8:59 pm

  3. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
    TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 8:59 pm

  4. you guys hear al trautwig say kidd just asked thorn for a trade to a winning team?

    i think it got to his head this summer when he was playing with all those other great players on the fiba team, now the nets aren’t going anywhere and he’s thinking about going to the magic or some other team like that where he can chase down a title. can’t say i feel bad for the dude though because he’s talked mad smack on the knicks for years so hope he rots on that team :D

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:11 pm

  5. NETS just lost to the Wolfs!!!!

    By Peaceman on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:12 pm

  6. two lobs in the opening seconds of the game.

    ellis with the dunk.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:13 pm

  7. good call, jackson walked.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:13 pm

  8. nice move by quentin on the post but they got back fast and already retaliated.

    they’re too fast.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:14 pm

  9. Starting 5 for the Knicks:

    Curry
    Zach
    Q
    Crawford
    Mardy

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:16 pm

  10. curry with the dunk.

    good game so far.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:17 pm

  11. Momtae shredding Crawford so far. Curry with two power slams in retaliation. GS 8 - NY 6.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:18 pm

  12. Curry jumped for a rebound.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:19 pm

  13. curry sits early. AGAIN. 9 minutes remaining, d lee in.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:19 pm

  14. good job beating your man to the spot Q

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:20 pm

  15. Lee in for Curry as Curry picks up his second foul.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:20 pm

  16. lee got called for the foul. this keeps up and we’ll be seeing balkman real soon.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:21 pm

  17. Q 2 the rack followed by a Crawford jumper. Knicks 10-8 with GS falling in love with the 3pt shot.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:23 pm

  18. looks good so far, right Jay Bee?

    mardy almost had the steal. glad to see he can still do that.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:25 pm

  19. 4:49 to go in the first quarter. Knicks leading 16-14. No 30 point quarter to start the game this time.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:27 pm

  20. Whaddup fellas.

    Knicks appear to be doing some running of their own.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:27 pm

  21. Jeffries and N8 checking in. N8 wastes no time hitting his 1st shot.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:30 pm

  22. Nate then went coast to coast but blew a layup

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:31 pm

  23. I thought that steal was pure.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:31 pm

  24. N8 usually makes those coast2coasts. Should’ve dunked.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:33 pm

  25. whats up B&B?
    these guys play just like phoenix. get the shot up in the first 5 seconds of the shot clock.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:34 pm

  26. there’s balk

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:34 pm

  27. 12-0 run for GS.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:36 pm

  28. i guess gus johnson studies the knicks pre-game warm-up field goal percentages. impressive.

    mardy comes in knicks go small ball to try to keep up.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:36 pm

  29. the golden state fans seem to really support their team.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:37 pm

  30. balk with the slashing move in the paint.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:37 pm

  31. I spoke too soon about no 30 point quarters. GS 29 - NY 20. Mardy’s back for defense.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:39 pm

  32. Balks bucket stopped the Warrior run. But man they are on a tear.

    All I want to see these Knicks do at this point is not succumb to all the hoopla of the vaunted Warrior run.

    We’ll see what fortitude this team has.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:40 pm

  33. Where I’m at League pass has these sorry azz GS announcers. They take every opportunity to take pot shots at our boys.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:41 pm

  34. I like Collins on BD….

    Just instruct Collins NOT to shoot…..

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:45 pm

  35. These Knicks ain’t folding..even though their shooting horrible!

    By Peaceman on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:46 pm

  36. The benchwarmers are warming it up in the 2nd qtr. Scoring the first 6 points. GS 29- Knicks 26.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:46 pm

  37. jay bee,

    i’ve got msg, but i’ve heard those guys before. they’re jerks.

    yeah nate!!!

    great move and one.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:50 pm

  38. Mardy is savvy. He cuts off BD’s angles. Nice.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:50 pm

  39. Rough in the hole. Nice.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:50 pm

  40. dude has 12 rebounds in the first half? box him out!

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:53 pm

  41. No way Curry plays in this game unless it’s close in the 4th. Pace is wayyyyy too fast for him.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:55 pm

  42. we’re not playing perfect but we are playing with confidence and energy.

    did I just see Q hit a three?

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:55 pm

  43. BALKMAN with the dunk!!!

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:56 pm

  44. Another great pass to a cutting Balk from Zach…

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:56 pm

  45. good move azubuke

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:57 pm

  46. Good fortitude so far by the boys in Orange and Blue.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:57 pm

  47. Concur with KnicksD…

    Our bench wins this game for us, with cameo appearances from some of our starters.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:57 pm

  48. I like thrcrew out there right now except Q who just hit a 3.

    Balk
    Q
    Mardy
    Craw
    zach

    We had a brief lead but they just scored. GS 41 - NYK 40.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:57 pm

  49. That’s the best zone I have seen the Knicks play in two years. They figured out how to control the pace and forcing them to go deeper into the clock. Very nice. This Knick team looks like it is getting better and better.

    Rough in the hole = they are finally catching on that there should be no free layups.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:58 pm

  50. Godzookie is playing hard.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 9:59 pm

  51. good hustle ZBO

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:00 pm

  52. Word has it the Golden State Warriors lead the league in members of the Road Runner fan club.

    Many of the players have taken to immitating the mythical Looney Tune Bird’s fast lane approach to life.

    Inside sources even suggest that Warriors coach Don, “The Horse” Nelson, stole the goose that laid the Golden Egg in Golden State, just to insure that his players have enought road runner blood in them.

    The league should look into this illegal blood doping and genetic alterations of the Warriors.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:00 pm

  53. how did he make that??

    he flung it at the rim.

    good move balk

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:02 pm

  54. Balk appears to have an uncanny touch once he gets to the rack.

    Another shallow water player, but his hustle is very welcome tonight.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:04 pm

  55. Hmmmmmmm. I say Zach is not likely to revert to his “I just got to the Knicks and I can’t trust my teammates in this adjustment period” self.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:04 pm

  56. I must give Zele credit. First, he started Mardy and now he has a nice zone going. Really cold blooded. Some guys call that “sissy ball” at the Y. I like it.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:05 pm

  57. almost everybody is here except BARF Johnson. maybe barf will show up for the second half?

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:05 pm

  58. There have been many a mystery surrounding the classic Tv star Mr. Ed, the lovable horse whose introductory lyrics was at one time linked to satanic lyrics.

    Another mystery is what happened to Mr.Ed’s teeth.

    Well we may have gotten an answer, just take a look at Don Nelson’s smile.

    It’s a story as sordid as whether Jimmy Hoffa’s body is buried under Giants Stadium.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:06 pm

  59. GS looks despondent because they can’t run.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:07 pm

  60. Great half! Good stuff!

    By Marzak on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:09 pm

  61. Good first half

    Knicks up 52 to 47 against the Warriors.

    Need another half to start this road trip off to a good note.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:09 pm

  62. Gus is right. Great first half. I love that zone. I can’t believe the Knicks are playing a good zone. Actually it worked a couple of times last year when they had the long arms of Balk, Jeffries and Frye on the floor. But those times were so few and far in between.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:10 pm

  63. How’s my tongue and cheek commentary so far?

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:10 pm

  64. Craw with the nice move in the lane to end the half…Knicks up 52 - 47.

    I have a feeling about this one. Nice move by Zeke to put Collins on BD, then to shift to the zone.

    GS is looking a little confused right now, and I don’t think they have the intelligence or diligence to try to solve what we’re puttin’ on em’.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:10 pm

  65. Halftime Knicks 52 - Golden State 47.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:10 pm

  66. Man these Knicks came to play!!!

    By Peaceman on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:11 pm

  67. Hell, the Knicks can run your AZZ too!!!!
    Balkman’s stats don’t do him justice!

    By Peaceman on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:13 pm

  68. Now you gentlemen know why I am so hard on Jason Kidd. He plays when he wants to. He has been wanting to leave and he has been playing like it for awhile.

    Hey, does Stoudamire make the Celtics better? I’m not sure that he does, but I guess he is a far better alternative than House at thr point.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:14 pm

  69. LOL Peaceman…

    I waz just bugging on the Warriors fast lane approach.

    The squad Zeke has out tonight against Golden State certainly can run.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:15 pm

  70. @ Peace..

    It’s all about putting the right pieces on the floor, and those pieces being guys that WANT to play, as opposed to cats looking at this as a “throw-away” game, or conceding when shyt gets tough.

    Mebury and Curry come to mind.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:15 pm

  71. Crawford and Zach are still soft on D, but in the zone they can “hide”.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:15 pm

  72. you guys think mardy has anything to do with the better zone play? just bloggin’.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:17 pm

  73. scratching! scratching! scatching!

    By Syd on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:17 pm

  74. very encouraging fellas!

    – I like the Mardy start - let’s devlop him and live through the bricks. He does other things the Knicks need. Nice back door to Jamal too.

    – That Nate pass to Lee for the dunk was sick.

    – I wonder: What if Balkman played big minutes since game 1 this year? It just makes me angry.

    – Did Q actually hit a three?

    By MODI on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:18 pm

  75. In the first half the Knicks utilization of a smaller lineup combined with the zone has resulted in a proverbial 55mph speed limit on the speed limit breaking happy warriors.

    Lets see if the Knicks can make these Warriors into bohemian Rainbow Warriors.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:19 pm

  76. Marv Albert to Jason Kidd after the Wolfs win:

    Marv: Jason, you asked to be traded?
    Kidd: Yeah, Marv!
    Marv: What is the major reason?
    Kidd: The Fucking Knicks beat us three times!

    By Peaceman on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:19 pm

  77. Mardy is broad shoulder long wing-span fella who plays solid D and is taking angles away from the Baron Von Runalot.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:20 pm

  78. Peaceman @ 75

    ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

    That will drive them to the point of despair indeed.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:21 pm

  79. Knicks with a 32-18 advantage in the second qtr.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:22 pm

  80. You know what KD, I seem to remember that those successful zones last year included Collins.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:23 pm

  81. Mardy is playing well despite being 1-7. Making a diff on d against the GS guards.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:23 pm

  82. Has anyone ever noticed that the Warrior logo looks like the quasi digital character in the movie Tron?

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:23 pm

  83. I hope KD plays well enough this second half to let Zeke knows he must be out there more and Craw will benefit from the combo and the blow. I guess Collins is just a guy who needs time to develop confidence. He was out during the summer.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:24 pm

  84. Defenders Impressive 1st Half!

    @Peaceman, you are absolutely right, The Boys came to play!

    @Jaybee,

    GS announcers are mainly trashing & thrashing ECITY and you get argue with their assessment!

    @BRONX, if we were behind at the half, I would agree with not playing ECITY due to the pace of the game. But since we have the lead, we should start the 2nd half pounding them on the inside if ECITY is up to it and then we can control tempo and slow the pace down and wear their azz’s and tyake their legs away…Plus if he’s up to it, the inside game will force the double team open everything up else…But that is a big IF, but worth a shot…

    Lastly N8 and DLEE got a good rest and that should help JCRAW in the second half…Balkman’s hustle and athleticism and MARDYC’S D the difference so far….

    Keep it POPPIN!!

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:25 pm

  85. Mardy and Balkman are making themselves felt.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:25 pm

  86. Oh Shucks, Curry with the flip and the and one.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:32 pm

  87. Knicks gave GS a taste of their own medicine with N8 coming right back at em’ to score.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:33 pm

  88. Yo i gotta record this game too many good things happening.

    whats good modi, cooleyhigh?

    nate robinson is killin em! too fast for the cameras.

    kenny smith says we should slow it down.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  89. We’re getting overconfident. Nate and ZBo need to calm doen.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  90. Curry wants to stay out on the floor.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:35 pm

  91. That is such a tough jumper by Craw. He’s not even square with the hoop. But swish.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:36 pm

  92. WE CAN CONTROL TEMPO.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:38 pm

  93. The Knicks were playing very well and in the past minute or so have allowed Goldenstate to get back setting the tempo.

    They need to slow down.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:39 pm

  94. I like that Crawford is coming off curls and draining them smoothly.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:39 pm

  95. Give the fuggin’ ball up, Q..your skills have eroded.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:40 pm

  96. Hold the Fucking ball Curry!

    By Peaceman on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:44 pm

  97. Curry presents no threat in the lane…

    damn!!!

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:47 pm

  98. GSW ties the game @71. We needed this timeout.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:47 pm

  99. Curry’s popcorn butter laden fingers bobled that nice pass Crawford hooked him up with.

    That play goes the other way for a fast break that was slowed by Q.

    Curry needs to be more aware of his teamates when they pass off to him. The fumbling happens plenty of time.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:49 pm

  100. Awful call against the Knicks. Shoulda been a charge on BD…

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:51 pm

  101. Sick Dunk by Lee Arghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:52 pm

  102. DLEE!

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:52 pm

  103. that’s funny b&b I just made some butter popcorn for the fourth.

    hey, that was a nice dunk by lee a minute ago.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:53 pm

  104. balkman’s play was amazing.
    davis’ play is typical davis.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:54 pm

  105. Nice steal by Balkman and passes to curry for the put down.

    The Baron answers back with a hail mary three.

    Go figure.

    Nice game though!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:55 pm

  106. Darn. One great play follows another and BD ends the quareter with a three and the Knicks are up by three.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:55 pm

  107. you got to get back on this team otherwise they’ll take advantage everytime.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:55 pm

  108. Lets do this NY!!!!

    By Peaceman on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:56 pm

  109. We looking good fellas!!!

    I’m checking in from my boys crib.

    If we can pull this out tonight….my question will officially be answered.

    Have we turned the corner as a team?

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:56 pm

  110. wow - Baron Davis, you ain’t right yo.

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:56 pm

  111. It’s that blood doping Don “the horse” Nelson does with that Road Runner blood he injects into his teams buttocks.

    No controversy yet of course!

    LOL!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:57 pm

  112. if it were streetball one guy would just stay back to watch those cherrypickers. but this is the pros, they don’t have to resort to that (it’s probably illegal too).

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:57 pm

  113. was that a bad call on balk being out?

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:59 pm

  114. like Stringer Bell would say, this ain’t about no damn corners, DaVonn…..we just gotta stay in each moment, every moment, play hard & play smart.

    i don’t mean that as a slam on you, i got nothing but love for you (no homo), i’m just saying….if we stay in the moment long enough, a winning season would speak for itself. Until then, leave them corners alone. =)

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 10:59 pm

  115. Way to take it to the rack, Balk…let’s get this lead to 5.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:00 pm

  116. whats up DVJ!

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:00 pm

  117. Zeke is tellin’ em’ to be aggressive….get em’ in the penalty early.

    N8 has two free throws coming.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:01 pm

  118. cosign on #113
    take it one game at a time, like “the scholar” said in the pregame.

    one point game.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:02 pm

  119. nate is too quick for the camera optics.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:02 pm

  120. balk should have put his hands up on that three. no shot contestion.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:03 pm

  121. Damn - Biedrins with 21 rebounds. He’s not a taller DLee…….DLee is a shorter Andris Biedrins! =(

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:03 pm

  122. Couple of threes by Jackson and GS is up by one.

    Now Harrington will be going to the line.

    Still like the Knicks effort tonight but GS appears to be heading towards another run.

    They got to play Jackson tighter when he’s at the three line from hear on out.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:04 pm

  123. What’s up knicksdefense!

    I’m just hoping we can close out this game tonight.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:04 pm

  124. TOO MUCH PENETRATION and LACK OF FOCUS ON D…Guards are the culprits…MARDYC Needs a few minutes…JCRAW tired…

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:04 pm

  125. zach has made some good fouls this game. i appreciate that because at least you make them go to the line rather than get an easy dunk.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:04 pm

  126. i cannot stand Don Nelson.

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:05 pm

  127. Is that 3 team fouls for GS? Let’s get em’ in the penalty early/

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:07 pm

  128. Co-sign on post 123,,

    Craw needs a blow. Gotta get Mardy in for a few mins.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:08 pm

  129. Zeke’s mismanagement is gonna cost us yet another game.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:10 pm

  130. Gotta listen to the GS homers say that good things happen when you go inside against the Knicks.

    Sad, but true. The guards have to do a better job on the perimeter, however.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:12 pm

  131. Guard play is killing US!!!!!!!!!!To MUCH dribbling and no ball or body movement…
    And, basic BBALL, stop the ball on the break…Baron & Ellis dribbles right through the defense…What kind oif BS is THAT…to the line…guards plezze play some D and run the offense…

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:14 pm

  132. A lack of focus and too much penetration CooleyHigh, like we’re some ditzy chick at a club that Baron done slipped a Roofie to!

    Alright, maybe that was too graphic, but i bet Jamal sleeps on his side on game nights to minimize the discomfort. How many treys are these guys gonna hit before the real DEFENDERS start taking it personal??!!??

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:14 pm

  133. that’s a BS call!
    they pushed lee out and they call it against him?

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:15 pm

  134. F**king ECITY…Jump for a rebound MOFO…ridiculous

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:15 pm

  135. we need a bucket.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:15 pm

  136. nobody wants to shoot.
    good steal q.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:16 pm

  137. zeke should call timeout.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:17 pm

  138. yeah he travelled. but good for us!

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:18 pm

  139. make em count nate

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:18 pm

  140. Nate kisses himself before a throw?

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  141. play d and box out your man!

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  142. nice

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  143. BALKMAN!!!!

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  144. Knicks are still playing tough.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  145. Naldo bringing that good stuff!

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:20 pm

  146. is zach even in the game right now?

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:20 pm

  147. Q!!!!

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:22 pm

  148. nope - Balk/Lee at the 4/5

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:22 pm

  149. Ahhh Nate

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:22 pm

  150. 1 minute 47 seconds, five point differential. GS leads and has the ball. LGK

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:24 pm

  151. Poor officiating tonight is killing us.

    By Vic Corbit on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:24 pm

  152. Sup everyone!!

    By Vic Corbit on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  153. Knicks need a lucky break. Or a bad GS shot and rebound.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  154. Q’s shot has been much more confident but his defense is garbage.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  155. N8 can be exasperating!!! Great one moment, bonehead play the next…He’s played well for the most part…ZBO has disappeared (BARF called it), and DLEE is letting Bedrin is killing US on the boards is an understatement….

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  156. stick with the smallball n8/craw/q/balk/lee you think?

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  157. nate got too excited on that one.
    good rebound by q. d lee’s rebounding has disappeared this game with that guy biendris getting the nba season record for rebounds.

    bxinmd: sorry you have to listen to those condescending jerks for golden state. i’ve heard them before and they’re pretty insulting. i don’t get why the msg cats are so conservative about the knicks. even clyde and breen sometimes don’t seem to cheer for the home team. at least gus seems like a knicks fan.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  158. davis in the fourth = bad news

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:26 pm

  159. Yeah Nate. payback.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:26 pm

  160. Nate & 1!!!

    By Vic Corbit on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:26 pm

  161. SEEn WHAT I MEAN!!!!!

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:26 pm

  162. nate with the and one

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:26 pm

  163. 26 rebounds - is that an NBA high by Biedrins you think for this season?

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:27 pm

  164. A Vic sighting and Curry has 4 boards in 6 mins! I’m buyin a lotto ticket tonight

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:27 pm

  165. Damn!!!

    By Vic Corbit on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:27 pm

  166. Great game. I hope the Knicks realize the progress they have made. Great game. Impressive.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:28 pm

  167. We didn’t need a three….it was a two possesion game….

    The opportunity was there.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:28 pm

  168. Co-sign 165 - great effort. They’re not always gonna shoot the rock like that from the perimeter.

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:29 pm

  169. it is re: NBA season record

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:29 pm

  170. Believe this Defenders, this will be the toughest game of the trip. Mark it down. We are finding our groove.I see you Chuck!!!

    By Vic Corbit on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:30 pm

  171. We should’ve won this.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:30 pm

  172. F**KING WINNABLE GAME…You got give them a B for their effort…they hung in this one, but morale victories don’t help you in the standings…DAMN

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:31 pm

  173. We should be proud of their effort tonight. Ran out of gas? Moral victories count this season.

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:32 pm

  174. Vic Corbit,

    I get that same feeling, about GS.

    We played LA well, match up well with Utah, and should be able to get back at the Sonics. I’m not to sure about Portland.

    However, overall I am happy with the knicks effort tonight. No quit tonight.

    It was really the three bombs by Jackson that killed us tonight.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:32 pm

  175. See what I mean!!!

    By Vic Corbit on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:32 pm

  176. O’k Black and Blue, it is almost time for the switch back. If the Knicks win this game, I say you should put some Orange in your life. LOL

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:33 pm

  177. N8 for 3 with 1.1 left GS 106 - NY 104.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:33 pm

  178. Nate’s makin a habit of this…

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:33 pm

  179. Many of those rebounds by Biedris came off of Curry’s slow ass, and against Z-Bo.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:33 pm

  180. over the back rebounds - no call.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:35 pm

  181. Good game, moral victories don’t count for squat in the standing but with this years Knicks who were in such a funk before those morale victories keep the teams morale going.

    Next up LA followed on the next night by Utah.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:35 pm

  182. Nate’s such a frickin gunner! 19 shots in under 27 mins — plus 8 assists? crazee…

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:35 pm

  183. i’m with ChuckFM - that’s a team i can be proud of tonight, and that’s not something i have said too often this season. Warriors shot the lights out AND had a monstrous game outta Biedrins - and they STILL shoulda lost to our boys. Nice game, goodnight all!

    By PaulNoize on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:36 pm

  184. Ego & Essence. We must get mentally stronger.

    By Vic Corbit on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:37 pm

  185. Thanks for the play x play gents! G’night!

    By Charles Follymacher on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:37 pm

  186. Lives

    Tell you what if the Knicks get three out of this five game trip then I’ll shift closer to the former Orange and Blue moniker. I’ll go with Orange and Bruised, Orange and Blue will be reserved for a 5-7 game winning streak.

    I sincerely believe they have ont of those in them for sometime this season.

    Crawford’s shot was looking flat near the end of the game.

    Where the relief!

    By Black and Blue on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:38 pm

  187. Vic Corbit, hope you’re right about that.

    i liked this game up until the fourth, then GS really shifted gears on us but we kept it close.

    it was a winnable game but we can’t make mistakes if we are going to beat a team like that.

    zach disappeared in the second half.

    considering where we are in the standings, we need actual wins right now, but i guess a moral win will have to do tonight.

    the next chance for an actual win will be tuesday night against the lakers.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:40 pm

  188. I agree with this being the toughest game this trip. This was the one that concerned me the most. I didn’t expect to escape the Golden State with a victory, but we came close.

    Cooley, I respectfully disagree bruh….albeit it not going in the win column, I’d definetly say we scored a moral victory tonite.

    I’m very proud of the effort shown by our boyz tonite.

    The next four games are definitely winnable, but realistically, I’ll be content to go .500 the rest of the trip.

    By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:41 pm

  189. As a team 27 assists and 14 turnovers.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:42 pm

  190. That was simply the most impressive use of the zone I have seen the Knicks use. Granted perhaps they should have won this game, but they haven’t won games like this yet this year. This will build confidence and later down the road they will win games like these because they will have the same type of confidence that the teams like the Warriors have.

    I wonder if this 1-2-2 zone would work against Phoenix?

    If they play with this effort against Kwame’s Lakers, we should win that one. Put Mardy and Jones on Farmer and let Lee wrestle with Turiaf and Jeffries with jumpshooting (Carter-like) Odom.

    Later. Good night.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:42 pm

  191. Zach 4-11 for 9 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:44 pm

  192. We had 5 in double figures almost had 7. Trouble is they had 5 also.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:51 pm

  193. I’ll take the moral victory. Even though he was a bit out-of-control at times tonight, it is really fun watching Nate take his game to the next level.

    By MODI on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:54 pm

  194. *note i’m not blaming zach for the loss, i think isiah was trying to find five guys who can keep up, so there were times down the stretch when zach wasn’t even on the floor, despite being effective in the first half.

    i did think that our defense was a little weaker with mardy sitting out much of the second half.

    By knicksdefense on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:56 pm

  195. Guards 18/46 shooting tonight…Bigs 9/15 shooting tonight(ECITY 5 of 5); 54 points in the paint during 3rd quarter…Never re-established the BIGS…MARDYC’S fourth foul hurt US a bit too…

    @BRONX, I respect your slant and there is some credence to it…I respectfully stand corrected (I could taste victrory, oh so close, I guess I have to use my BMC Card and relax)…LOL This WIN would have certainly set the tone for the rest of the Left Coast trip…But Like LIVES, I’ll take 500 on this trip…

    @Modi, he is defintely growing upright before our eyes and he will and must play…cut doen on the mistakes and he will be the TRUTH…

    I’m AUDI

    Keep it POPPIN

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 28, 2008 at 12:12 am

  196. Google Alert - new york knicks Mon 1/28/2008 5:07 AM

    Jackson, Biedrins lead Warriors over Knicks

    NBA roundup: Sunday’s action on the boards

    Super Bowl XLII: A Blustery Affair

    Super Rivalry: Beantown Vs. Big Apple

    Surging Knicks hit the road for test from Warriors

    Knicks nipped by the Warriors

    Is this thing on?

    By Syd on Jan 28, 2008 at 7:28 am

  197. Thomas is maintaining that all is quiet on the easter trade front.

    By Black and Blue on Jan 28, 2008 at 7:40 am

  198. Excellent effort last night. Too bad it wasn’t a W. I don’t care that we lost. We tried for 48 minutes. If Q or Crawford hits that 3 from the corner in the last minutes, we win this game. Even Zeke was on his game. He realized that JJ was a disaster and gave him a quick hook before he could sink us in the 1st half. Damn I wish we won this one. It would have done wonders for the teams confidence. I hope they don’t hang their heads after this game. There is no need to.

    By JohnQ on Jan 28, 2008 at 9:24 am

  199. Moral victory? Are you serious? Please. ISIAH LOST THE GAME. All you guys that think Nate is the answer need to look closer. Mardy was the answer yesterday, not Nate. Nate was flashy, but made several crucial mistakes. He had NO DEFENSE ON THE BALLHANDLER. Baron shot well over him. Jackson found his shot first, then Baron got going.

    THAT WAS OUR FUCKING GAME LAST NIGHT. WE NEED A COACH!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By HarleminMD on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:11 am

  200. Mardy had major minutes in the first half, Nate had major minutes in the second. Isiah should have let Mardy foul out, especially when Jackson/Baron started to hit jumpers. They had no one even putting a hand in their face!!! Of course they will get going if you don’t make it hard!!

    By HarleminMD on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:13 am

  201. Good AM Defenders!

    @Harlem MD, one of my FAVORITE Brothers from Another Beautiful Mother. I love YOUR passion Harlem MD and you saw my posts froom last evening, so you know how I feel, but I think most Defnders are gratified by their effort last night and OUR TEAM’S Sticktuitiveness… They never gave up…This is a Journey and not a Monument…But I sure would have liked to snagged that win last night…

    Now to your point that Zeke/MONTY (Where is the card MONTY) F/U, you are absolutely right about MARDYC and his play on the defensive end and he helped out a bit on the boards too. Now to me Where MONTY, has really screwed up is with N8. African and I may differ on the ECITY vs. ZBO secanrio (No Beef, Just Veggies), but he and I are on the same page with N8, and if MONTY had played N8 more consistently earlier in the season, he would not have made those mistakes last night and MONTY could have been schoolin the youngin on how to take the reins of this TEAM, and by this time in the season he would have a better feel for when to push it and when to slow it down and use OUR HORSES…This KID has unique abilities for his size and tremendous heart and energy, it is MONTY’s job to help him HARNESS that verses jerking him aronud like he did during the early part of the season. Also, from what I saw last night, MARDYC looks healthy should start every game from this point out and glue FJONES azz to bench to be used only in emergencies…If he has another DNP, he better be because he is half-dead or be going blind, creepled, or caught stealing MONTY’S Cards…If he plays like he did last night, will should not have to pick up another PG…

    Have a Great Day Defenders and a very Productive week!

    Keep it POPPIN!

    By cooleyhigh on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:46 am

  202. I’m tired of losing to teams with lesser talent. GS has Baron Davis, that’s it. Stephen Jackson is ok, but he is on his 5th team for a reason. We have a very effective post player (Zach), a guard with a sick handle and great shotmaking ability (Crawford), a change of pace guard (Nate), a Center who can cause problems for 75% of teams in this league, and good complimentary defensive players. Yet we lose.

    We should not have lost to GS. The zone was perfect against GS, ensuring that there always would be a defender on the perimeter. A little more rotation amongst our bigs and we were fine. With Balkman in the game and mardy on Baron, we were effective! We outscored GS 32-18 in the second quarter! How can you not go back to what worked in that quarter! Mardy and Balk did not play in the 4th. How is that possible?? Why do we have 20 assistant coaches!!!

    By HarleminMD on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:46 am

  203. Cooley,

    Just saw your post. I like Nate, but I don’t think he should have played major minutes last night. He can’t guard Baron, Ellis or Jackson. Everyone has to guard their man on our team, because we have no shotblocker. GS loves to run, so Nate’s speed doesn’t faze them. We were better when we were methodically setting up Zach, Curry and Crawford. Curry’s asinine play (Biendrins 26 boards) forced him out, but we could have opted for Zach and let him set up Lee on the baseline or Crawford off curls.

    I’m pissed. IT’s rotation and use of his bench sucks. Chandler also should have had a shot against Jackson. We have 3 SFs! Why not matchup??

    Fuck that. Derrick Rose looked great Saturday. 19 pts, 9 rbs 8 assts. Let’s play for him.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:53 am

  204. Folly:
    From the last thread.
    Would I change my mind on the Zach/Curry debate, now that Zach is passing? NO!
    The mere fact that you have conceeded that Zach is now passing out of the double team, has made my point more concrete.
    Some of you on here have the impression that I’m anti-Zach. No. I’m pro-Knicks.
    What I saw, was that Zach was being the same selfish player he was in Portland, and that created a chemistry problem with this team. I mentioned that the recent success has a lot to do with Zach and the poor play also had a lot to do with him hogging the ball.
    What played out after the Zeke benching has only made my point crystal clear. The team is playing much better with good ball movement.
    The other issue on keeping either him or Curry. They can both stay on my team providing Zach continues with the script, but if one must go, it would be Zach in my opinion.
    We saw that movie before with an undersized power forward playing the center position. That was a disaster. I’d keep Curry. Perfect? He’s not. Upside? A ton. He’s 24! You’re welcome to disagree.
    Jay Bee. Great post on the previous thread.

    I saw the closest thing to MJ last night.
    It was in the Portland/Atlanta game. Roy is one of the better players in the league. Period.
    Atlanta enjoyed a nineteen point lead until Roy took over on both ends. In the final five minutes, he blocked the shots of both Josh Smith(Not J.R.) and Joe Johnson, and was unstoppable on offense. He was no joke! Unbelievable!
    NJ also had a seven point lead against Minni with one minute, twenty seconds remaining. They got outscored ten to zip to lose the game. Pathetic! Frank has some dirt on Thorn, that’s why he’s still a coach in the league.(lol)

    By African on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:58 am

  205. Lenovo stat. (+/-): Mardy, +13; Nate, -6.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:59 am

  206. Isiah needs to give Dave Hanners the coaching position for the rest of the season. If he doesn’t make the playoffs, Isiah will be fired anyway and he is not going to coach them into playoffs.

    See you guys tomorrow night.

    LGK.

    By HarleminMD on Jan 28, 2008 at 11:13 am

  207. It has become so popular to bash Curry on here it’s becoming pathetic.
    Curry played eighteen minutes.
    Biedrins played forty-one, and had twenty-six rebounds, but it’s Curry’s assinine play that’s to blame.
    Do you guy take yourself seriously?
    WTF!

    By African on Jan 28, 2008 at 12:03 pm

  208. I think I figured out the threads I want to get started on. Building them out will be a continuous work in progress that you will all eventually create, but I think it’ll spark discussion and compartmentalize some of the things we “talk” about on a regular basis.

    Top Secret and Coming Soon.

    By JAY BEE on Jan 28, 2008 at 12:22 pm

  209. DEE-FENDERS,

    Peace & Blessings,

    Af-ri-can, you call Zach a ball hog, & selfish, but yet you are excited about a “trigger happy” point-
    guard, (19 shots in 27 min.). Does a trigger-happy point stop the ball from moving, and
    keeps others from getting involved? N8 & Crawful shooting percentages are falling back to norm.
    The NUANCE is Crawful is playing too many minutes and his legs are tired. The TRUTH is Crawful,
    a streaky shooter was HOT for 5-games and is now setting back to reality.

    Last night was Curry & Knicks at their best. Quicker team regained lead in 2nd qtr, aseveryone was able to maximize their game, sans Curry Knicks are an athletic team. Curry’s focus on his one dimension (scoring), and when he doesn’t get the ball, he doesn’t provide anything else, (no D, no rebounding, no passes). His lack of Fitness,
    also takes him out of games against running teams. He was huffing & puffing last night. Finally,
    his post-game quotes are always about getting Him the ball. Why doesn’t his FAT-AZZ go and get the
    ball off the Rack. If he feels he can dominate his man, then go and GRAB some rebounds, so you will
    have the ball.

    Moral Victories: When you are 14 games under 500, 42 games into the season. There ARE NO MORAL VICTORIES.
    The Hole is too deep!!! The team doesn’t need MORAL VICTORIES, THIS TEAM NEEDS COURT-VICTORIES.

    Peace & Blessings

    By Statesman on Jan 28, 2008 at 12:42 pm

  210. States:
    Once again, you’re using stats to confuse the confused.
    Most of Nate’s shots came at the end of the game when we needed quick shots to maximize posessions to get back in the game. You can fool some people some time……
    You’re the only one that can’t see the positives of Nate. Why? Because you’ll have to eat your words maybe?
    That was great coast to coast and one move by Eddy Murphy last night, wasn’t it?
    We don’t need to harp on Curry’s negatives, we all know them. But Curry’s right. Whenever he’s on the court, we should maximize his potential. We got away from throwing the ball in the post, and putting the pressure on their bigs.
    Curry went to the line frequenty. He should have been there more. He was also 7-9 from the line, and perfect from the field, but you wouldn’t notice that of course.
    A big cannot get himself the ball, that’s the responsibility of his team mates. That was one advantage we had last night, but got caught up in the run and gun. A better mix would have been more effective as noticed by Harlem.
    This team can be both with different players on the court. The problem was that we were trying to outrun them with the post players on the court at times.
    Whenever Curry is in, they should have been getting a steady dose of post play. Agreed?

    By African on Jan 28, 2008 at 1:05 pm

  211. I agree. If Biedrins would’ve been saddled with some fouls, he wouldn’t have had 26 rebounds. They’ve got a rookie behind him and nobody else. You take away Biedrins and their gameplan changes. Not so many second chance points and it’s probably a different game. Biedrins was over the back most of the game anyway, but it wasn’t called.

    By Jay Bee on Jan 28, 2008 at 1:29 pm

  212. Af-ri-can,

    The Majic run very few plays for Dwight Howard. They will try a lob pass here and there,
    but most of his points come from grabbing rebounds off. If Eddy was more active in other parts
    of the game, then he would have a greater impact. African, on this Curry vs. Zach question,
    you are starting to resemble Charley Rangle. You are stuck in yesterday, believing the old game
    that worked in the past will work today. Everyone sees the truth, but you. Use the “Analytical Eye”
    to see it is a New Day. Stern’s new NBA or the Euro-NBA does not put a preminum on the post-up game.
    Actually the Euro-NBA penalizes the post-up game by calling offensive fouls, which in most cases
    are Flops. Cholly the game has passed you by. It is a different time & a different place.

    Peace & Blessings

    Jay Bee,
    I saw the Sporting News ranking of Centers in the East. What a joke. Haywood is playing better then Curry,
    Z at Cleveland, and a few others ranked below. They are outrebounding Curry by a significant margin.
    Not just on rebounds/game, but rebounds/minutes. Curry ranks w/ guards. Please provid