MLK game: Celtics at Knicks
January 21, 2008 – 3:43 amGame time 1pm.
What better way to honor the great Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., than with a victory over the Celtics–and don’t tell me I have a dream, we can beat this team if we show heart and play smart.
Expert Frank Isola was on NBATV tonight sounding much like Lives saying the team has turned a corner. He said that he expects the Knicks to put up a good fight tomorrow (still Isola said the C’s would win, but who wouldn’t on national TV?). He did that very same kind of backpedaling at this time before, didn’t he? “I always thought this would be a playoff team,” was the exact quote during the 6-game streak if I recall correctly. Isola the jellyfish fence-straddler needs to just pick a side and quit calling loyal Knick fans everywhere “male groupies.”
I missed that Nate Robinson dunk in the first half of the Miami game, fortunately Alan Hahn found the video on youtube, check out Knicks Fix if you wish to revisit the footage. Somebody please tell nate if he uses his supreme talent to focus on defense he’ll have plenty of opportunities for more dunks in the game. Anticipate passes, read the passing lanes, he’s been studying Steve Nash tapes to become a better playmaker and that’s great, but he should supplement that with some Muggsy Bogues tapes if he has the time. Anyway, Nate has been doing a great job lately so I’m happy for him.
That’s two dunks for Nate in Miami thus far in his career. Does Nate even have a shoe sponsor yet? Would Steve and Barry’s possibly be interested?
304 Responses to “MLK game: Celtics at Knicks”
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By DaVonn Jefferson on Jan 21, 2008
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By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
One Thing about this 07/08 Celtics team, they play good defense, block shots, deflections, help D, etc…. Our Knicks today must move the ball effortlessly, be conscious of making the extra pass and break the defense down for easy baskets especially in the paint. Offensively we must control the clock, take high percentage shots, make the Celtics work even harder at the defensive end. Boston loves their big guns hanging on the perimeter to hit the open 3 every chance they get in their transition game….. It’s their bread and butter; It allows them to run up the score quickly in their favor. Knicks cannnot allow this, We must not get caught up in the run and gun style of todays opponent by taking quick baskets early in the clock. Control, team play and aggressive defense, will get us our ‘W’.
By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
Good AM Dee-fenders
4 of 5 are ready for more.
Go Knicks!
By D L T Knicks on Jan 21, 2008
Todays game is on NBC Nationally! You know the Celtics
are gonna be show boating! That’s fine because “We ain’t afraid of no ghost.” lol
Today the Knicks can quiet a lot of haters, gain some respect around the league
by a big win today! We know Zach, Craw, NATE and Q are not afraid of anyone, so
the question is what Curry will show up today? If Curry has his best game for the
Knicks on both ends we will shock the NBA! KG can’t stop Curry if Curry sets his mind to
getting dunks in the paint, he can foul out KG! Curry can block shots if he sets his mind to
it! Curry should be hell bent to alter and Block more shots than any game in his entire career!
This is OUR house and this is not your Marbury’s Knicks! Lets do this NY!!!!!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
I’m working today and would love a final score.
GO KNICKS!!
By Edward on Jan 21, 2008
To this point I don’t think we’ve talked about the role of the agents in our lack of team play early on. In NYC, if you are a legit star on almost any team the city will love you, and endorsement money will rain on your head as if Pac Man himself were throwing it. So it does make me wonder with all the trade whisperings and newshounds looking for anything and everything, why have there been no agent quotes, demands for trades or press conferences. They have been conspicuously quiet and it’s not in the nature of most agents to be quiet.
So I’m sitting here wondering who are the agents for these guys and were they in the background telling Eddy to not get hurt or to overexert himself so he doesn’t mess up the cash flow by dying? Was Zach’s agent telling him that if he’s “the man” in NY he can write his own check? Could greed be the reason he wouldn’t pass out of double and triple teams early on? What does Balkman’s agent say when he gets tucked away for weeks with no game time and no explanation? Wilson Chandler and Randolph Morris’ agents have to be pissed, but no comments. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to wake them up or stir up trouble, but I wonder if any of that has come into play this season.
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
@Peaceman,
Now that scares me,expecting that CURRY man-up.We may have just as good a chance with JJames.lol
One of Boston’s weak spot is the center. But,watch Perkins and Big Baby outplay Curry.
Let’s hope Jamal is hot.
By D L T Knicks on Jan 21, 2008
@ DLT
I know it’s a stretch, but if Zach can LISTEN and pass out of the double
team then Curry can be told to put all his energy on the defensive end and LISTEN!
That’s all we need from Curry is to be a force on the defense! Times have changed and Curry has seen
the route Marbury has gone, Curry will have to change or take the same route as Marbury!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
One big point I want to make and I hope every Knick
feels the same exact way! Fuck Boston! LOL
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
Peaceman
Agree.
Fuck Boston!
But
Boston 127
Knicks 73
Happy MLK Day.
LOL!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Peace,
I don’t know about fuck Boston as maybe there are one or two of them that may not be so bad, awww who am I kidding?? FUCK BOSTON!!!
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
Lets Go Knicks!!! Fake fans be damned!! Knicksdefense is the site for the “real” Knicks fans. Not the ones that call press conferences. The ones that say lets win a game that no one says we can win. LGTWs!!
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
LGTWs = Let’s Get Them Ws - Zach Randolph
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
I’m with Peace and Jay Bee!
anyway here is a REPOST from yesterday as I really want cooley to know where he stands with me:
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What’s up all. Apologies for the delay on this post which I really should have done Friday evening. In no prarticular order:
– Cooleyhigh is a G-O-D! Friday night’s game against the Wiz was an enjoyable experience despite the loss. How close to the court were the seats? Close enough to high five all the Knicks as they left the bench to go into the tunnel. How close? I swore that I smelled a fart from Jerome James! How close? If Bronxboy didn’t bail out, he could have reached around and given Jamal that handjob he has been dreaming about! How close? Those were the best seats I had since I saw X-Man (Sonics version) drop 40 on the Knicks back in the day. I also remember that Rory Sparrow nailed a shot at the buzzer to send the game into OT.
– Too bad that Cooley wasn’t actually there. He was missed. But I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed the company of Steady and HarlemMD. So much so that I actually missed a lot of plays because I was engaged in prime Knicks convo combined with interesting non-basketball stuff!
– I thought that HarlemMD was a doctor. Turns out that he just lives in Maryland like me! Okay, from now on I’m ModiMD! HOWEVER, he was dropping enough Knick knowledge that his PhD was well-deserved.
– I still don’t understand Isiah’s coaching to the point where I might file a lawsuit for emotional damages… and only because of his coaching I do not anticipate continued success this year despite the last 4 games. The Miami game could easily have been a blowout win instead of a nail biter. From a developmental point of view the only exciting right now is the growth of Nate Robinson… besides that — nothing.
– Did I mention that cooley is a G-O-D?
By MODI on Jan 21, 2008
Curry get your hands up and challenge the shot!! (I’m just practicing for game time.)
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
NY, NY
Kings of the F’n Hill.
Always gotta get up against Boston–In memory/honor of Crispus Attikus.
Fuck Boston/New England.
Modi,
You know what’s good.
KFLL
By Steady on Jan 21, 2008
Take back your pride New York!
Fuck Boston!
The Boston-New England area signed a deal with the Devil.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Zeke should be playing that first game for motivation. Breaking it down showing the lack of effort. Make the guys own up to what they did wrong. Challenge the guys to play like men. To fight like men. To win like men. Losing is not an option.
This is the fuk’n playoffs. There is no tomorrow. You leave it all on the floor for as long as you have it and trust that if you run out that your teammates have your back.
No free trips through the lane. No uncontested threes. Play tough hard D and this game will be ours.
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
Jay Bee
“No free trips through the lane. No uncontested threes. Play tough hard D and this game will be ours.”
Wholeheartedly agree.
Today no Blood no Foul!
They don’t get near the rim w/o getting hit!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
lol ok, in honour of the duke of peace let’s cap the cussin for today. ’sides you know them chants is only an incantation for the TomGremlins to appear
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Ok Follymach
Fudge Boston!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Let’s Go Knicks!!!!
Bring it on!!!
WriteOn, Defenders!
By Anti-NYSportsNews on Jan 21, 2008
Clyde speaks then Mike Breen starts blowing the Celtics and Swallowing!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
Cool a MSG broadcast on NBC!!!!
Never saw that before.
By Anti-NYSportsNews on Jan 21, 2008
Breen is really good at what he does.
Na mean!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
ChuckFM,
I love MLK, but I’ve got more Malcom X in my heart than MLK!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
I’m up for this
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Needless to say I would of been opposite of James Farmer
on the “Great Debate.”
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
LETS GO KNICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
Aight …. lets do this!
By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
Yo Defenders: FUCK THE SCUMBAG CELTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By George M. on Jan 21, 2008
holy cow GeorgeM! oh, my virgin ears! lol! … knicks off to a kinda sluggish start. celts not that sharp either tho…heatin up…
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Perkins is their non name taking advantage today.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Eddie Curry …damn dude play some ‘D’.
By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
The last time it was Rondo feeding off of the big three
Now its Perkins.
Frustrating to no end!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
oh man, career high by perkins comin up…sheesh! zeke better figure it out this time out… (any suggestions brain trust?)
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
TO early 17-1O Celts .
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
Good time out! The knicks are playing tight!
Settle down and lets play!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
If Curry battled for the loose ball, like he hits up the local McDonalds, his bounds would go and the team would get more rebounds overall.
But what does he do?
He stands there when there bounds to be had.
What a turd!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Curry is a disgrace, get that fat idiot out of the game.
By maestro on Jan 21, 2008
zeke switched zbo to guard perkins instead of curry…
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
And out of New York. Buy him out, do whatever it takes. GET HIM THE HELL OUT OF HERE.
By maestro on Jan 21, 2008
Good play by our bench!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
Rondo’s open layup was Lee slacking!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
Nate, JJeff and DLee in and things start coming together for the Knicks.
The ball movement is nowhere near where its been in the last few games
Afternoon games on NBC must bring out the beast in the starting five. Isiah is merciless in pulling them though. Thats a bright spot.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Lives,
From the last thread, those were some significantly useful words there about DEFINITIONS. Very useful. On the human level, it is about IDENTITY. We define our identity. Thus, I often refute the “we are what our records say we are” bunk often repeated here. As an almost 50-year-old, I see your throwback tendencies, no lay-ups from the middle, no coveting OTPs, you know what’s good.
KFLL
By Steady on Jan 21, 2008
A good defensive center on this team and we could do some damage.
By maestro on Jan 21, 2008
Defense playing better now that the lead footed Curry is off and to the pine.
MODI is right we haven’t turned all corners yet. Lives theory that one corner has been turned ok.
But untill Zeke puts his best team out there then we will always be held back.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
they can start chipping away at the celtics lead…have to start bangin guys a lil more on D (yes, risk some fouls)…can’t afford to trade baskets now
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
They are single covering ZBo so far. Not as many open passes to be had so he’s been going to the basket. Not bad but he’s got to create ball movement when they are single covering him or delaying their double team.
23 - 16 C’s 2:25 left in the first
Powe over Lee for the C’s 25th.
D-fensive 3 second call on the C’s. JCraw hits the freebie. Knicks 17.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
JCraw off a screen for 19.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Randolph put back on the follow up of a Jeferries miss on a fast break sparked by a jefferies steal.
Nice
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
ZBo can bang?
Say word
JJeff off the backboard with a wild fast break layup.
Knicks 21. 1 minute left.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Robinso with three fouls.
the NBA screen writers guild is in effect and carrying out their directive from the Sith Lord Stern!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
29 - 23 after one quarter. nate with 3 fouls. Thats bad.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
shouldn’t curry be in now while perkins is off the floor (perkins is sitting right now, right?)?
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Nate has to sit now, that sucks.
By maestro on Jan 21, 2008
Curry limited to 7 minutes in the first. 4 pts, 1-2 from the field, 2-2 free throws, 0 rebounds, 0 blocks, 0 steals, 1 TO, 1 foul
QRich started but only has 1 rebound to prove it
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
If we put Curry in, we will be out of this game soon..
By maestro on Jan 21, 2008
not in against the starters…and i don’t wanna hear shit about zbo just “taking on” a double team a sec ago. when he spun around he didn’t see the other guy come around til it was too late (got the foul anyway)
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Z-Bo froze the Knicks offense with that iso jumper that clanked off the rim.
Knicks won’t win with that purely one on one game.
They need to keep the ball movement going and not get stagnant.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
oh cr*p did i just cuss?
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Randolpn nice putback off a Lee miss.
and House answers for Boston
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Scalabrine sighting.
2-2 from the freee throw line after a DLee foul…C’s 31
DLee witha 16 foot jumper. Knick2 35.
Scalab’s with a TO. Zbo fouled by Ray Allen on the shot attempt in the post after a late double team.
ZBo hits em both. NYK 27.
JJeff steals it from Tony Allen
ZBo throws up a shot he misses after single coverage by Powe. He’s got to try to make it further to the basket before he hoists one up.
C’s miss a shot on the other end, ZBo picks up a board and a timeout is called.
31 - 27 C’s 10 left in the 2nd.
ZBo tips it in after a DLee miss.
NYK 29.
House around a screen for a jumper. C’s 33.
FJones misses a floater.
Tony Allen misses and Zbo picks up the board.
Scalab’s called for a foul on ZBo under the basket.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
The Knicks are banging and hanging! lol
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
I do appreciate Z-Bo’s motor though.
That hustle helped him draw a fould on the Cs
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
33-29 Celts. Jared Jeffries making an impact on defense. Celts 2nd unit not holding up against the pressure.
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
as a general comment, i just wanna say youse gotta let guys play a lil bit. even jordan and timdunk and even zeke make bad plays from time to time. let it run a bit to see if there’s a trend of bad plays (or non-plays, as the case may be) occurring over a lil stretch.
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Breen’s talking shit on ZBo. He’s being single covered by Powe. He has to challenge that…plus, there are no open outlet passes out of the post for him right now.
Breen’s just generic with his criticism. If he’s being single covered…he needs to try to score. Plain and simple.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Po with a throw down of a series of passes from the Cs
Jones gets to the line on a nice pass as he cuts in to the paint.
Jones hits the first.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
geez! now we’re back to curry on perkins! arrgh!
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Emonster sighting!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
FJones at the line after picking up a foul on a lob attempt.
Hits the freebies to give the Knicks 33.
Tony Allen travels at the top of the key to give the ball back.
Balk still shooting and missing 3 pointers.
Perkins still hot with a shot off glass over Balk and timid Curry.
C’s 38 after Perk’s freebie.
NYK 33.
Curry rebounds his miss and puts the ball back in for 35.
Balk guarding KG in the post and picks up a foul.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
BARF @#70 agreed.
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
But our D got broken down with Munster in there
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Garnet is a beast!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
what the heck lineup does zeke have out there now!? i don’t get this! how does that remotely matchup with what celts have on the floor now? who’s playing center? PF?
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
KG’ a beast right now.
We have to get by this. Where’s Craw? We need some perimeter shooting out there.
Do you take out Balk or JJeff?
I dont know what ya’ll think but Zeke’s job isn’t easy. There’s just teams in the league we are not matching up with well. Its just truth. That the Knicks make a game out of it is a credit to them
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
ZBo back in. He hasnt gotten any rest.
Curry is really a weak link tonight. Defense suffering with him in.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Sub Balk for Jeff but keep Jefferies in since his impact on the game is more tangible.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
44 -35 C’s, 5 and a half left in the second.
Curry to the line after a foul. If he’s not scoring for us then he’s being useless. Its no secret that he’s shit on
Hits them both to give the NYK 37.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
O&B, 81, true.
Thats what he did. I agree.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Nice hard foul by Jefferies to deny Perking a lay up.
But Perkins makes both free throws.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Crawford off the backboard with Garnett in his face.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
JCraw banks it in over KG. NYK 39
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
JCraw banks it in over KG. NYK 39
JJeff doing a good job on Pierce forcing him to fade away and miss.
Rondo picks up a foul. JCraw at the line.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Barf
Thomas’ game management will go a long way towards giving us a shot at this game
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Z-Bo with a three.
Rondo retaliates by taking it to the hole.
Z-Bo offensive rebound and a put back of a Crawford air ball.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Mighty Joe Young Z-Bo draws a foul on Garnett and to the line
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
ZBo chucks up a 3 with Curry in prime position for a rebound. Long rebound kills any chance of that happening.
Zbo comes back by picking up a offensive rebound on the next possession and scoring.
Next possession…Zbo draws a foul and hits the first.
And the next. NYK 45, C’s 48…3 left in the second.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Perkins and Rondo still killing us.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Perkins playing a great game feeding off his teamates.
Crawford turnover leads to a ROndo layup.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Ugh. What a terrible sequence for us.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Knicks down by 9 with C’s at the line with less than 2 minutes to go.
They’re coming undone at the seams. Selfishness reigns supreme.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Jeffries should have Dunked that!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
Peace he had a dunk and turned over his hand at the last second to lay it in. Bone head. He should of banged it.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Damn
I like Jefferies contributions on defense but he is terrible when it comes to attacking the rack.
That missed weak layup led to a Garnett dunk and lil momentum going the Cs way.
9 point deficit with a minute and about half left in the first half of the game.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Rondo looks like a Raptor
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Pierce has 6 assists.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
zbo’s warmed up, got a bee in his bonnet. may be forcing things a lil much, but that’s how he do sometimes. usually works out.
new theory…you guys watch with me… does curry sometimes “cheat” on his dee? it’s like he’s either stupid or avoiding a blame game thing. he doesn’t seem to know when he’s supposed to be the weak-side help and when he’s supposed to stick close to his man (and even that weak-side help is a weak offering). when he leaves his man right under the basket and goes to “help,” (when it should be jefferies or someone else to help close), it leaves his guy wide open. he can always then turn around and say he was trying to help?
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
I’m disgusted. They look terrible for no reason.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Wheels coming loose with Curry on the floor!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
*sigh* jamal getting exposed as a point … you can smell frustration building…
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Follymach
Maybe he is trying to avoid having to play defense so as not to get fouls called against him cause if he gets called for fouls he get yanked.
So it is self preservation for him perhaps. But it is terrible that it is at the teams expense, if your theory holds true.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Besides ZBo’s bad shots right before the bad finish to the start…I have to say that involving Curry into this game is painful to watch. Yes you want him to contribute but it can’t be this hard. Especially if he’s useless on D.
Game had more flow with DLee on the floor. I dont think we can win like that…but at least we’ll be in the game.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
we are just getting outplayed by a better team. Rondo is peeing on Crawford. Craw could be the worst defender in the league alongside Curry of course. Our offensive guys cant defend and our defensive guys cant score.
By maestro on Jan 21, 2008
There is still time to get someone to play some minutes at the point. Nate can’t go all out all game long w/o it wearing him down for what will be the remainder of the year.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Game ain’t over yet, but I’m not happy with the up and down (mostly down) game of Curry. No D at all. He should ride the pine til everyone fouls out.
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
Just goes to show how important Nate is at the point. How Stephon is useful against teams such as this.
JCraw’s not meant to go up against Rondo anymore than he’s supposed to go up against BDiddy Baron Davis.
How the hell did Nate pick up 3 fouls in less than 1 quarter?
JCraw at the SG position was doing well in the 1st quarter. Nate has to stay in the game. No two ways about it.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
The team does lack two way players.
But Thomas putting Crawford on Rondo is a boneheaded move.
Crawford helf up better against Jesus Shuttlesworth LOL!
Nate matches up better against Rondo, and I would suppose that Jones would also. Not Crawford at this point.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
I’m at the point where trading Curry is an idea I can really entertain.
But I’d sent his ass West.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Edwina Curry Sux!!!! That fat bitch,all she does is eat greezy burgers with Biggie Snaxx!!! Please somebody just smack Curry with a frying pan,please!!!!!!!
By George M. on Jan 21, 2008
Hey BARF
Was DJ Mbenga released by the Warriors?
How was he at post defense?
I can’t imagine he’d be worse at it than Curry or as lazy as Snaxx.
Give me some feedback b/c we need a post defender.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
maestro @ #107 … that’s why every chips team needs at least two two-way starters to anchor things. hodge-podge of O-only and D-only guys can’t work long run… curry’s FG% — esp points in the paint — is often very good, but if it’s negated by soft play on the defensive end (like if the opponent’s points in the paint is supposed to be affected in large measure by the center play?)…
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Jared is doing a good job against Pierce but shit…I hate how his game doesn’t show up in the boxscore. Not a rebound…1 steal…0-3 from the field…2 assists…2 turnovers…1 hard foul
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Crawford with several WEAK defensive plays. If he is going to lead this team he needs to embody defense. Him and Curry both. They say the right things about defense, but won’t do it themselves. Who’s going to listen to them when things break down?
I said it. Crawford needs to commit to playing defense.
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
And thank goodness for the early Q-hook. JJ was making a difference until that fake layup attempt (Gotta come strong) and the baaaad pass to Curry.
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
Halftime show is a blowjob on the Celtics.
Sad that even Clyde is doing some of the Blowing.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
59-45 Celts at the half.
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
jay bee, i don’t think craw has the physical tools, man. he’s just not that quick and he’s a slight guy.
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Mgenga’s good. He’s more of a mobile choice at Center. He’s super raw in terms of skills. He’s exactly opposite of Curry. He’s give you the up and down game…bangs, blocks…but his team D is suspect. He blocks a lot more. And he rebounds some…the athletic type of rebounds as opposed to those after a box out.
A good project…but one problem is we dont have a roster spot for him (unless Stephon is out for the year perhaps) and he’s just a development project at this point. He could be interesting cuz he gets up and down the floor so well. So if you want a big body…for 6 fouls at the least… he’s a good idea.
but still, there’s no roster spot for him.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
We had too many bone head turnovers!
WE MISSED THE HELL OUT OF NATE!
2nd half we will see what heart this team really has,
and how important NATE is to this team!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
-22 with Eddy and Zach playing side by side
+8 without
You can kind of cover for one of them on defense, but not both of them in any team defensive scheme. We spend all this time about talking about Eddy or Zach individually and frankly that is always a secondary conversation. I will say this for the 100th time, it is a STRUCTURAL FLAW first and foremost. As long as Isiah pairs them together, we will lose. Period. Point blank. End of story.
And this is why it kills me to no end to watch the Knicks this year . I just can’t take it. We probably have a .500 team that does not play its best combos. We should be leading at halftime. LEADING! I want to beat Isiah up in a dark alley…
By MODI on Jan 21, 2008
Nate and 1
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
i’m going to walk a lil further down the plank and say i really respect zbo’s game more and more despite the occasional questionable shot. i think it keeps his defenders honest. you don’t know when he’s going to put up a three or drive or what. seeing that he’s not the most “athletic” guy out there, keeping guys from always playing him one way or another is advantage he needs. over the course of the game, it works out. that’s you give him some rope to do what he do.
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Nate picks up the andone to start the second half.
MODI, I could agree with you but DLee just doesnt play well tired. He just doesnt. He cant play the whole game.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
JCraw with a floater.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
BARF
So what would you prefer a raw guy who can give you histle boards and can be taught defensive and rebounding fundamentals, or a Lazy uninspired big man whose offense comes from just 3 feet and in?
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Mbenga’s been cut by two teams who need a Center BADLY.
What do you think?
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Nate is the difference maker so far.
Lee at the line…misses the first. KG goaltends the second.
61- 52 C’s, 8:30 left in the 3rd.
Pierce hits a shot in the paint.
Randolph throws a terrible underhand pass. C’s have taken away his outlet passes and the Knicks are not moving enough out on the perimeter.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Is IT trying to lose this game ? Why? Someone please tell me why is Jeffries advancing the ball up the court ? How does he blow a break away dunk ? His lack of any clue on the offense should mean he doesn’t get the ball but to pass it to someone else. Why does he get the long rope allowing a 10-0 run (6 points off him alone) ??????????? Good substitution patterns this afternoon Zeke. You’re an idiot. Give Fat Bastard Eddy and Jeffries extended minutes in the 2nd half while limiting Lee and maybe we can lose by 30 ! I’m fed up watching IT smile on the sidelines while one of his “glue guys” fumbles the ball. I’m sick of an offense that continues to force pass after pass inside so E Chunky doesn’t have to move to the ball. I’m sick of the all offense no defense staring line up. I want a coach who mixes his roster for the good of the team and a GM smart enough to know what pieces will fit before he acquires them. We had a shot to win this game. Zeke you’re an ass.
By JohnQ on Jan 21, 2008
Question answered.
I’m just frustrated that we have such lazy big guys like Snax and Curry.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
TO!! just get a blow
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
LMAO!
E-Chunky!
ROFLMAO!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Piecre hits a three. Knicks down by 16.
JJeffries killing it on the perimeter with bricks.
Try Q if they are going to be leaving people open by playing a lazy zone.
This is killing me. Jamal was holding the ball too long on the possession before last. Had Nate open on the wing with DLee in the corner. He held the ball long enough to let the d recover and by the time Nate caught the ball, there was nothing available.
Move the ball.
DLee and JJeff can’t be out there at the same time. They are leaving them wide open for jumpers. They know us.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
DLee called for an offensive foul after Leon Powe draws one.
Pierce over Q.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
70 - 52 C’s 6 left.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
no, Q. you’ve been on the bench for the last, what, forever. don’t take that shot so damned early in the clock man. don’t. do. that.
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
So another coaching rule to consider.
Never Lee and Jefferies at the same time especially if their shot is clearly off.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
good foul, eddy!
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Good
Hard Foul!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
curry juuuuump!!
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
But he gives it back by not boxing out and letting the Cs get a board on him.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
why are zach and eddy in at the same time. even a tired lee is better, no?
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
get balkman in for Q!
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
The one Celtic I really can’t stand, to the point if he has a career ending injury I’d laugh, is Pierce.
It be nice to see Q pop him and sit that bytch down.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
True charles
All the yapping is making the refs up that N.B.A styled protective forcefield on Pierce
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
I’m sorry
I know honoring King some would say is about non-violence
but
Its cowardly to do all this false bravado to goad a lesser team all riled up!
To that end Pierce is a bytch
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
OH [EXPLETIVE]!!! wow, wot a dunk! dat curry sho can dunk.
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
I think right now the Knicks are getting the hazing from teh Cs
The Pistons did that to teh Bulls and so on.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Q and Pierce thrown out.
Q still talking shyt and Pierce looks scared.
Can’t be so tough of the court.
Go Knicks
Yeah Q take him to the alley boy!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
O&B, you got your wish. Q got Pierce out.
Good shit
Wht else u want?
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
This game can be so easy if you play it right. We are not breaking them down with dribble penetrationor out of the double teams because we have no one cutting, due to playas hugging the 3 point line, just not forcing their to Defense to react verses guarding the perimeter.
OUR D is non-exsistent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Breen and Clyde ought to know better with the ZBO bullshyte…This Bruh comes to play everynight (despite some deficiences), except N8 who had to sit because of foul trouble and JJEFF, the rest of this crew is not hustling, rebounding, or playing D (ECITY, JCRAW, QRICH are major culprits; check the hustle stats like rebounding and steals, does anybody have more than 5 out side ZBO, N8, or JEFF)…
THIS LOST IS ON ZEKE’S HEAD…It’s called COACHING…Demand these things from your playas, or play the Ball Boy and Water Boy…or maybe CHANDLER, MARDY, or MORRIS…
THIS GAME IS EASY IF YOU JUST PLAY WITH YOUR HEAD AND HEART…THIS IS BULLSHYTE…
Q is a joke……………………………………………
GO KNICKS GO KNICKS GO KNICKS GO KNICKS NEVER EVER GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By cooleyhigh on Jan 21, 2008
O&B, you got your wish. Q got Pierce out.
Good shit
What else u want?
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
O&B, you got your wish. Q got Pierce out.
Good shit.
What else u want?
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
craw-the-ref is hilarious!
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Perkins picks up a t
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Nice Curry taking it to Perkings
Curry to the line and a t on Perkins
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
while curry is feelin it for the next 5 or 8 mins, we should ride his thick hide.
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
O&B, you got your wish. Q got Pierce out.
Good shit.
What else you want?
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Nate with a slam off a fast break started by a steal.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
O&B, you got your wish.
Q got Pierce out.
Good stuff.
What else you want?
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
when tony allen is in the game, nate should be in his jock cuz allen spits up turnovers as often as he exhales.
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Take FJones out and put Balk in.
No SF for the C’s with Posey AND Pierce out.
This is our shot.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
A win would be nice!
Don’t know if that would be asking for too much
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Glen Davis and Curry must be brunch buddies.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Our Chi-boys are soft…
Curry throws Rondo to the floor…yeah big fella, try that on someone your own size for once…and then he mugs on Perkins after an uncontested dunk…Perkins looks at him as if to say, “WTF…..are u retarded???? I’m killin’ you”…
Then Q wants to challenge Pierce to a sword fight….”meet my out back”…
Pierce is prolly thinkin’, “please Q…see me when u get a jumper”
Q prolly knew he’d get fried in the fourth quarter if the game got close and got thrown out on purpose.
LOL…
By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 21, 2008
I’ll take Q out with Pierce!
Thats OUR advantage, it should show in the fourth WHEN Boston falls apart!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
need a monster 4th to do it …..
By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
O&B, if we get a win out of this, Q should get the MVP. No doubt about it.
Pierce was killing us softly. Shot fakes and quick passes were the difference in that late second quarter run. If I hadda known Q could get him out, I would have asked for that 2 quarters ago.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Down by 12 entering the 4th
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
yes, curry! use your fouls dangit!
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Nice hard foul by Curry he is actually being productive.
Barf
True I might hate pierce but he is an assassin. Great player but a real jerk.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Curry’s fighting for a rebound
It’s raining cats and dogs
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
curry got a rebound!! he’s in the game!
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
KG back in. Can the Knicks maintain?
Curry misses his second. 82- 72 C’s 11 left in the last.
CUrry with another rebound.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
ZBo gets to the line
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Big Body Davis is huge. Who left the sugar pantry unlocked?
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Garnett with a clutch jumper with Z-Bo on him.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Those Ts and ejections may have gotten us the Mo we need to have a Happy MLK Day.
KFLL
By Steady on Jan 21, 2008
Curry drawing fouls on Big Body
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
we got them in the penalty …
By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
Damn look at the size of Oliver Miller Part Deux’s legs. He looks like a small sumo wrestler.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
The Cs have two clutch players in there
Garnett and Allen.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Ray Allen with a dagger back
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Allen answers Crawford with a clutch 3
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Curry with a tap pass to a streaking Nate
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Jones has to do better than that Deeing up on Allen.
Jesus is getting some holy spirit running through him at this juncture
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
can you feel it, boys?
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Knicks back within 8 with Pierce in the back icing his ego.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
BARF
You think Big Body could be enlisted to bring the World Sumo Championship back to the USA?
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
can anybody tell me why curry doesn’t try to set a lil deeper in the post?
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
Big Body is out sumoing Curry in the Post
It’s like moving a buici
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
ChuckFM- deeper position means long passes which means turnovers?
He’s doing better from a bit further out. You have more options out of the post from his spot. You have better scoring options the deeper you go.
But I don know. He’s doing well from there.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Another bad pass from ZBo.
Curry blocks Davis but they call a goaltend.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
If Curry would show this much energy all game, we wouldnt be in this position.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Nice hustle play by Nate to preserve the possession for the Knicks
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Nate with a hustle rebound.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
our boys are’nt shooting well….
By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
Cs back up by 12.
Only about 6 minutes left and they need to get their O in sink.
Crawford hasn’t sat yet, and his jumpers may be getting flat.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
They’re fighting hard to stay in the game but are not knocking down their clutch shots like they have been lately. FJones throwing up bricks and JClutch still yet to be seen.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
How come Curry only takes things personal in the fourth quarter? he needs to get upset early on and maintain that emotion.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
The clock is working against the Knicks
They really need to get their scoring in sink.
And as I said Allen and Garnett have been clutch
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Garnett with a fall away ala the Mamba
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Ice cold
Knicks shooting is ice cold.
And the Celtics are up 17.
Game is basically over.
Still they ought to fight on, a double digit loss against the Cs is terrible.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
alright, well that’s that. whatever juice curry had is done now and the rest of the offense is stagnant. defence has sagged. still, pretty good effort against one of the elite teams in the league.
By Charles Follymacher on Jan 21, 2008
When the Knicks are forced to involve Curry and he doesn’t produce shots or free throws…its a trend…that everyone else’s shots HAVE TO GO IN…and when we are not as hot as usual…its a sign of bad things to come.
We just can’t rely on our defense like a winning team. That sucks.
If Curry is this cold, just put DLee back in. If they are both going to be missing their shots, I’d rather have DLee in…even though he’s been useless today.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
JJeff
DLee
FJones
JCraw
Nate
Not much happening smoothly.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
FJones is as cold as ice…and willing to sacrifice.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
I dont care what the stats say. KG killed us.
Pierce killed us from the perimeter with passing and timely hooping.
Ray’s the third wheel.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
If Isiah keeps playing Crawford all these minutes he’s gonna get hurt and then we’ll really suck.
By Top Shotta on Jan 21, 2008
Boom, goodnight. Pathetic showing by the Knicks. That prick ISiah even had to have his crappiest piece of dung Q take out Pierce and you still got pounded.
By Tom on Jan 21, 2008
The Celtics three wheeled ATV ride over the Knicks yet again.
Still want them to fight on today. Make the score respectable.
Need to build confidence goinf foward
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Those weren’t boos when James was introduced.
They were chants of “FOOOOOOD”
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
We need a point guard….. Knicks showed no energy in this game….. how badly do we need a defensive presence to man the paint …huh
By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
A Jerome James sighting…
Between him and Curry, we have 700 lbs in the center spot….
By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 21, 2008
bxboy, imagine if Curry hadn’t dropped that 30 lbs during the summer.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
LOL Tom, as classy as ever I see.
go Detroit!
By knicksdefense on Jan 21, 2008
Well at least we didn’t get blown out by 45 and 40 like last time.
Yep we need a defensive presence in the post, and a guy to give us minutes at the point.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
3 days off to think about this one.
By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
Seems like Boston/New England did indeed sign a pact with the Devil.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Go Detroit of course.
But Stern might have his master script playing out right now.
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
O&B, thinking the same thing just now. You may dance with the Devil, but you’ll never lead.
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Well at least we didn’t get blown out by 45 and 40 like last time.
Yep we need a defensive presence in the post, and a guy to give us minutes at the point.
Comment by Black and Blue — January 21, 2008 @ 3:35 pm
Wow, is that pathetic or what?
By Tom on Jan 21, 2008
BARF..
They’d need their own locker room…..lol
By Bronxboy in Md on Jan 21, 2008
Tom asshole,
your team will have a 1rst round playoff exit against the WIZ…you Prick!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
Go Detroit
Go Spurs
Go the Western Confernce Champions
Fuck the Celtics and Boston!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Go GIANTS!
By Peaceman on Jan 21, 2008
Hey O&B
Here’s a better answer to your earlier question
Lakers sign Mbenga; Ariza out eight weeks
By BARF on Jan 21, 2008
Go Detroit, that’s a laugh, even you stumble bums beat them.
By Tom on Jan 21, 2008
Go Giants!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Have a good evening guys …
By Syd on Jan 21, 2008
Suck nuts Tom. Big Baby Glen is getting fatter and fatter. The good news is that if Boston’s plane ever crashes the whole team can survive for months on his blubber.
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
Zeke if you were a horse, they’d bring you out back and shoot you.
By JohnQ on Jan 21, 2008
Jay Bee
True Dat @ 234
“Big Baby Glen is getting fatter and fatter. The good news is that if Boston’s plane ever crashes the whole team can survive for months on his blubber.”
ROFLMAO!
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Good day fellas1
By Black and Blue on Jan 21, 2008
Will check in later after I detox and have a chance to drink it all in. There was a Curry sighting. Second half of the second half he manned up. See you guys later.
By Jay Bee on Jan 21, 2008
q did well to get pierce and himself ejected but it did nothing for our chances down the stretch.
jeffries missed some shots pretty badly but played good d.
i think if nate didn’t get 3 fouls in the first quarter and have to sit, the outcome of the game would have been more closely contested.
jamal pisses me off sometimes with the crappy shot selection. j chuck will be j chuck.
eddy did better in the second half, but the first half he wasn’t motivated at all, looks like he is afraid to play the fast-moving celtics. grow a pair.
the celtics are just a better basketball team. more talent, more chemistry, more everything.
of course it always helps to have friends in the league give you the best player in the NBA for a bunch of spare/junk parts because of prior loyalty in the old days. Danny Ainge and Kevin McHale should be imprisoned for unsportsman like business practices. the teams around the league were offering much more than what the T-wolves got for KG, but there were ulterior motives behind that unethical trade, you can tell that by the standout record with respect to the rest of the league. bottom line, you don’t trade an MVP for a bunch of roll players whom may never make an all-star team.
in any case KG is a great player and seems to be a good leader and person off the court–can’t say the same for pierce or anyone else on that squad but good for KG he deserves some winning after all those years in Minnesota.
Hey Tom: pierce is a damn ball hog. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
By knicksdefense on Jan 21, 2008
Dee-fenders
Wish we would have gotten this game today to get more r-e-s-p-e-c-t.
Exactly want we didn’t need,Perkins had a big game.(see my post @ #8 earlier today)
Peaceman and I knew EC would let us down……again.
3 days of practice till Philly……..waiting.
By D L T Knicks on Jan 21, 2008
We got no offensive production from our small forwards, Q, Jefferies and Balk all with Zero points…We definetly need Ron Artest.
By Top Shotta on Jan 21, 2008
Black & Blue,
I’m strolling down reading you guys and notice your excellent observation that had me cracking—”Rondo looks like a Raptor”!!!!
That’s crazy—because it’s so true, he does look like a Raptor!!!!Imagine if he was playing for the Raptors, that would be something!
keep it up and writeon
By Anti-NYSportsNews on Jan 21, 2008
Patience, Defenders!
We are bound to be exposed by one of the top five or six teams in the league this year. The Celts may be thin up front…..but sometimes that’s better than being fat up front!
As many have indicated, Zeke is experimenting with his lineup a bit, maybe too tentatively but he is adjusting and slowly “getting it”. i always bit my tongue a bit on criticizing Zeke over on the Knicks Knation blog in the past, primarily because that blog was so racially charged that any criticism of Zeke was merely racism-by-proxy, (even when the criticism was merited). In fact, i must admit i am kind of shocked at how quickly things have spun 180 degrees! Seems like everyone is hatin on Zeke these days….what ever happened to Kandiman, anyway? i’d love to get his take on Zeke these days!
We can’t kill Q for shooting early in the shotclock too much because he is one of the very few bonafide perimeter threats we have, even when he is dragging up & down the court and jacking up flat, unforgiving jumpers. He may be under standing orders to shoot when he sees daylight to avoid perimeter shots from Lee, Jeffries, Balkman, etc - so his poor decision-making could possibly be partially coaching-inspired.
i am very excited about one thing: we’re gonna find out the truth about Nate for better or worse this season, mainly because we have little choice but to play him heavy minutes. At least ONE of our four youngsters will not be a question mark going into next season! If you give ANY younger player in the league 30-35 minutes a night he will put up numbers - and what is more, his game will begin to mutate and blossom on-the-fly, as he adjusts to his opponents adjustments. Nate is gonna have to learn lessons on conserving energy, attacking his opponents dribble without fouling, and spreading touches around to keep everyone involved and active.
W/r/t Eddy, i think Isiah should get his back by campaigning publicly for the NBA to curb some of the anti-big-man foul calls. He can then accentuate his case by playing Eddy full runs regardless of his foul situation. Eddy should be firmly told to NOT vary his play based on foul trouble - he should play the game hard and let the COACH manage the team foul situation.
i think a string of games with Eddy fouling out in the first half would draw some slight media attention, and would be embarrassing enough for Mr. Stern to get the zebras to back off a tad on the pitty-pat calls in the paint. The plus in this strategy is that the Knicks would have an unlikely ally in South Beach, where Riley & SHAQ-FU could amplify the call to stop hatin on big men (and probably draw more media attention than Eddy & Isiah could).
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