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Knicks@Bobcats

December 21, 2007 – 9:24 am

Tonight Isiah Thomas’ New York Knicks visit Michael Jordan’s Charlotte Bobcats. No love lost between the two hall-of-famers, each GM is hoping to kick the other GM’s teeth in via the teams on the court.

Charlotte has improved their roster by adding Jason Richardson via summer trade, and also by drafting Jared Dudley and recently acquiring former knick center Nazr Mohammad. After pulling the trigger on some of these moves, Michael Jordan was quoted as saying he wanted to “make the playoffs now.” The Bobcats main options remain Gerald Wallace (all the makings of a knick killer), Ray Felton and Emeka Okafor. The guy Scott Layden cut, Matt Carroll, is still a threat from downtown, so watch him on the perimeter. The Knicks still remember the block party Emeka literally threw this past January, a career high of 10 blocks and they were all impressive (I was at that game and had to call my girl at halftime to get an update on how many blocks that kid had, I think it was six). Okafor and Yao were the only two guys who seemed to have Curry’s number last year in my eyes (what a difference a season makes). Yes, I meant to exclude Dwight Howard from that statement.

Great opportunity for the Knicks to pick up a road win tonight. More info on tonight’s game here.

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  1. 388 Responses to “Knicks@Bobcats”

  2. Fuck the Bobcats!!
    Knicks will go for 2 in a row tonight.

    Then we can get ready for the real threat coming to town on Sunday.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  3. The Knicks can pencil W on this game! If the Knicks that played the Cav’s show up they
    can change the pencil to INK!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  4. The media refuses to address the issue that the constant heckling and booing is a possible cause for stress and aanxieety which could bring on chest pains and which could be very difficult for Marbury to overcome as he faces the crowd in the place where his Dad died.

    You guys still think fans have the right to boo constantly and heckle? It would make more sense for the team to play to an empty seat. That would be the strongest protest and would still leave them with their dignity.

    By HarleminMD on Dec 21, 2007

  5. Defenders,

    I have a question. We all know the media is on a witch hunt for Zeke’s scalp. This is most likely, retaliation for the poor treatment they get from MSG. If they get what they want and Zeke is out how does help them get treated better if Dolan still owns the team and makes policy ?

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  6. DVJ,

    You didn’t answer me yesterday. Samuel “foot to the ass” Jackson was in Harlem Nights ? I don’t remember him.

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  7. My fault JohnQ…
    Yeah he was in the beginning of the movie. He was the one that Lil Quick shot in the head when
    he was messing with Richard Pryor.
    Now that I think about it…
    Tommy from Martin and that guy who had that show Sparks from BET was in that movie also.
    Damn that movie is great.
    I might go home tonight and watch that…after I see I Am Legend of course.

    When are we going to do our protest in front of the Garden?
    We might not get the local papers to follow up but I’m sure if we keep it up, we will
    get the real news (Channels 2,4, 7 and 9) to follow us.

    I can talk to the big homey up here (Mike D) who works for the Journal News to see if he can run
    a story but it would be better if we got some city coverage.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  8. the other Chuck D:

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/12202007/sports/knicks/daly__zeke_should_get_off_bench_821569.htm

    By knicksdefense on Dec 21, 2007

  9. Considering the immediate history of this knicks basketball team, I would just as soon not pencil in any W’s and just play the game hoping the knicks come on top. If the knicks think they can slack having just won a single game, as has been the case this year, they absolutely will get their ass handed to them tonight. The knicks are 1-8 on the road and the bobcats have a winning home record.

    It’s all about the attitude when they step on the court tonight. Don’t believe me? Ask your boy Isiah about it then. I want them to win, I don’t expect them to win. That’s just me though. Maybe Jamal Crawford and Eddy Curry will play like they lost last game and need the win, or maybe they’ll play like Isiah got another contract extension and they don’t have to win again for the rest of the season.

    The proof is in the Bill Cosby pudding.

    By knicksdefense on Dec 21, 2007

  10. *also worth noting that their lottery pick from last season Adam Morrison hasn’t played this season. I don’t know what kind of injury it is (you guys probably do) but he probably won’t suit up tonight.

    By knicksdefense on Dec 21, 2007

  11. Good stuff Knicksdefense. You are 100 percent right.
    We can’t take any win for granted.
    We have to come out on top tonight.
    If we don’t..Isiahs head will be on the block again.

    Curry…all he needs to do is travel with the team.
    He doesn’t need to play except at the beginning of each half.

    Let’s see if Isiah has learned anything from last game.
    How long will he wait to put in Lee?
    Will he keep Curry in the game a long time?

    For some reason, I can see Zach having a big game tonight.
    Zach doesn’t belong on the bench at all.
    However, he does need to stop shooting so much from the outside.

    I predict Omeka will have 5 plus blocks tonight against Curry, Zach and Lee.
    Let’s wait and see.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  12. I forgot all about him Knicksdefense.

    I like his game and his jump shot is serious.

    People were joking him when he cried after he loss in college but
    that just shows that he really cares about winning and I can
    almost guarantee you guys…that was the reason why Jordan picked
    him in the draft.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  13. DVJ, I know you’re patiently waiting for Kobe to come to town. waits almost over homie. he owes the city of new york a performance for last season’s suspension :D

    hey, look at this, next town brown is doing analysis for nba.com on tonights bulls-pistons game(espn):

    http://www.nba.com/news/coachscornerbullsceltics_071221.html

    By knicksdefense on Dec 21, 2007

  14. Good AM Defenders!

    I see the Defenders on this THREAD are appreciative of a Good Win and staying positive. Tonight’s game should give US some indication if our BELOVED KNICKS are finally tuning in and prepared to play consistently with HEART & CONVICTION.

    It is clear the NYMSM and the Nat’l MSM have their own agenda, so be it. It is also clear that basketball pundits across the country consider our TEAM the laughing stock of the league, so be it. These players will have to strap it up, along with the coaching staff, and make a concerted effort to change perceptions and opinions by their play and coaching. Like African, I believe the TALENT is there, it is unclear whether the HEART & CONVICTION is present. I believe one pundit (Tim Legler) on ESPN Tuesday night called the KNICKS, “A Collection of Misfits.” This coming from a journeyman NBA reject, that had very little game, and when he played here with the Wiz, could not spell the word DEFENSE…SO BE IT!

    Defensive agression, Ball movement, hustle, desire, and mental toughness is what we should expect to see from our TEAM tonight. Anything less, should be unacceptable. And, WE AS DEFENDERS, must also hold them accountable, on THIS THREAD. Dream TEAMs are nice, if we could of, should of is understandable, but we HAVE the TALENT and we must go to WAR with what we got. When I read this THREAD, and I see HEART, DESIRE, the UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORT, and most of all the PASSSION You DEFENDERS exhibit, are BELOVED KNICKS SHOULD PLAY THE SAME WAY, AND LEAVE IT ALL ON THE FLOOR FOR DEDICATED FANS LIKE US.
    Winning is certainly the objective, but when MY TEAM PLAYS HARD, EVEN IN DEFEAT, as a FAN I can hold my head up high.

    You GUYS have been holding it down, and no TEAM could ask for more intelligent, passionate, and committed fans. In Decency and in order, we should expect and demand, that his TEAM, OUR TEAM, play with HEART and CONVICTION, that we DEFENDERS exhibit every game, day or night. BLOGZILLA/KNICKDEFNSE/STARBURYFAN, I want to GIVE YOU YOUR PROPS for allowing ALL of US a place to celebrate, vent, debate, cuss, and express OURSELVES on the one THREAD where THE UNCONDITIONAL KNICK FAN can break bread and fellowship. You know me DEFENDERS, I couldn’t depart with imparting a little something, something for your HEARTS, SOULS and MINDS…

    Every time we open our mouths, people will look into our minds.

    Today’s Scripture
    “Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.” (Hebrews 11:1)

    Today’s Word
    Are you “playing it safe” in life and avoiding uncertainties? Did you know that in order to experience God’s supernatural power and favor in your life, you have to be willing to take risks?

    The Bible says in Hebrews, “Now faith is…” In other words, faith is always in the now. God is saying, now is the time to get out of the boat. Now is the time to stretch your faith. Now is the time to do whatever it is that God is telling you. You may feel uncomfortable at first. Choosing God’s way, instead of your own, will stretch your faith and cause it to grow. In the same way a muscle grows when you work it, your faith grows when you work it. You may not necessarily like how it feels at first, but that is a sign that you’re growing. God is taking you to a higher level and if you’ll continue exercising your faith, you’ll grow stronger and stronger.

    If you’re in a comfort zone today, we encourage you to step out of your “safe zone” and step into your “faith zone.” Be bold, rise up, and be obedient to the voice of the Lord. As you do, you’ll discover new strength and freedom like you’ve never experienced before, and you will discover the champion in you!

    A Prayer for Today
    God, I will listen to that voice inside me that tells me the risks that You want me to take and find the courage to step into the faith zone. Great things await me if I put my trust in You and really unleash my faith. Amen.

    To the DEFENDERS like St. George, Steady, Minny Fan, Vic C, Statesman, General, WE MISS YOU, BUT WHEREVER YOU ARE AND WHATEVER YOU ARE ENGAGED in PRESENTLY, we wish you Peace, Love, Longevity, and Prosperity, and know that Peaceman THREAD COACH, DVJ, John Q, Folly, Bronx, Modi the Resdient Scholar, LIVES the Resident Poet, Harlem, Post up, Anti, Barf, Jay B, Trane, African the Warrior, Black & Blue aka Orange & Blue, and especially BLOGZILLA are HOLDING DOWN THE THREAD WITH AN ENERGY WILL MAKE ALL OF YOU PROUD TO BE DEFENDERS…If I have omitted anyone, please attributed it to my head and not my heart…

    It’s Game Defenders! GO KNICKS GO KNICKS GO KNICKS GO KNICKS GO KNICKS GO KNICKS GO KNICKS

    Keep it POPPIN!

    By cooleyhigh on Dec 21, 2007

  15. Knicksdefense,

    Please note there is a big difference between Pencil and Ink!
    The Knicks need to go into tonight’s game with Swagger, which indicates
    that they truly believe they will win this game. The “Pencil” indicates
    caution, not over confidence. This team needs to believe in themselfs!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  16. WOW check out Ken Bergers blog today. He may not be invited to play in the medias reindeer games this year.

    http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nba/blog/

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  17. http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nba/blog/

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  18. Amen Cooleyhigh

    Your our TD Jakes!!

    Keep that good spirit coming man.

    Somestimes after a bad game by our Knicks…you’ll write a little something that
    makes us all smile. Your spirit is great and I’m glad your apart of the family.
    Wait until we all get together.

    If the Knicks make the playoffs we will certainly have to at least get together
    at a nice bar or Fridays so we can celebrate…even in a loss!!!

    Where the hell is Lives pregame?
    Peaceman where u at?
    BARF?
    Anybody seen Vic Corbit?

    Let’s get this blog jumping for the big homey Blogzilla…we owe it to
    him to be the #1 Knicks blog (even though I think he already is)….

    Mamba will be in the building this Sunday!!!!

    I’m so excited….
    and I just can’t hide it…
    no no no

    I’m about to lose control and I think I like it!!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  19. for some reason I’m having trouble posting a link.

    Check out Ken Bergers blog tday. He calls out the MSM beast and won’t be very popular w/ his peers this year. It’s deffinitely worth a read.

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  20. BTW
    Morrison is a type 1 diabetic! That is a terrible disease and requires multiple insulin
    injection per day! The average life span of Type 1 diabetes is 42 years old.
    Type one diabetes is different because the onset of this disease starts being a toddler!
    90% of all who have this affliction need a kidney transplant before they reach their mid 30’s!
    My hat off to Morrison, as he may be one of the few type 1 diabetics to make it this far!
    It may be noted that former Knick Chris Dudley had type 1 diabetes but he was lucky because
    his did not start until his late teens. Chris Dudley has many health issues at this moment.

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  21. Where can I go to read that blog John Q?

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  22. DVJ,

    Newsday. He does the NBA blog and Alan does the Knicks blog. hit sports then knicks and u will see nba blog in a dropdown from the left column. or go to alans blog and look at the blogroll.

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  23. Great story by Berger.
    He may be the one to cover us when we go down to the Garden and protest for Thomas…
    Not against Thomas.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  24. The Jamal Crawford era has begun. The people say we need a leader on these Knicks and with the demise of Marbury I am seeing an evolution in Jamal Crawford. HE is the straw that stirs the kool-aid spreading the sugar to make things sweet. I am gaining more confidence in his ability to lead this team to the level that we have been begging to witness.

    The New Year is upon us with the Knicks still trying to keep their heads above water and the captian on board the ship. I have not wavered in my faith it’s just natural for ones faith to be tried. With the way the season begun I thought we could start to foucus on baksetball the deeper we got into the season but with the media pundits and the blind fans this has become a soap opera of record breaking proportions. Hopefully our guys can start to jell and Nate, Lee and Balkman can begin to guide us into the future of Knick basketball. The media has one a lot of rounds of this fight but the fight is not over. The Knicks must strike back for their own pride if nothing else at all.

    By boomann on Dec 21, 2007

  25. Count me in for the Counter Protest!
    Who else is game? Sound off!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  26. Re: Counter Protest - I’m in TN these days so I can’t be there, but I got fiiiiiiiiiive onnnnnnn it!

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  27. That would be hot if we did the counter protest.
    We should really make a big deal out of it just to piss
    the other side off.
    Hey..maybe we can score some free tickets (good seats) to some
    home games also.
    Let me know when you guys are down so we can make this happen.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  28. DVJ,

    If you are really doing this you should make a 8 foot pink slip for the media.

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  29. Hell yeah I’m going to do it.
    I’ll probably do it next weekend.

    I’m going to get the pink slip.
    If you guys want to roll with me let’s do it.

    No fun by myself.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  30. Davonn,

    I just emailed MSGPR, letting them know our intentions!
    Hopefully they will give us some support! Lets do this guys!
    Defender Style!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  31. Someone fill in Ken Berger.

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  32. Good stuff Peaceman….
    If I can find the 8 foot pink slip I will get it.

    If not..they’ll have to do with a 6 foot 1 black slip instead LOL.

    I’m serious about this guys so let me know if your really down.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  33. The greatest basketball player this side of Michael Jordan will be unveiling his new sneakers this Saturday, December 22 in Harlem. Kobe Bryant will be on hand to reveal the new Zoom Kobe III at the House of Hoops on 125th Street. While Bryant’s new kicks won’t officially hit the market until February 8, 2008, those who come out to the store on Saturday will be able to purchase a pair, early.

    Heads will also be able to purchase the “China Edition” previously only available in…wait for it…China. All this before Kobe heads to Madison Square Garden to take on the Knicks that night.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  34. DaVonn:
    Just figured out what I’ll get you for Xmas.
    Two full years worth of therapy!
    You need help. Big time.
    Man!!!…… You got it badddddd!
    Do you think you’ll slip a little tongue in, if Kobe hugs you?

    DLT:
    Post #50 was a walking contradiction.
    You did so many flips, you’ve got to be a real good gymnist.
    Just say what you fell bro.
    Don’t be afraid.

    Where the hell is Statesman??!!!
    We need you around here!

    By African on Dec 21, 2007

  35. Guys has the Lakers Game time changed? I thought it was @1:00PM?
    Let me Know! Please.

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  36. It’s noon Peace.
    We don’t want to give them much time to rest after the strip club.
    We want them good and hung over!

    By African on Dec 21, 2007

  37. @African…lol
    Statesman postsed on Modi’s new Bomb!
    Check it out! I’m surprised more defenders didn’t post on this Classic!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  38. LOL @ African

    Or maybe I just recognize when I’m watching the greatest scorer in our era!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  39. For me, it’s hard to check many sites.
    I don’t even visit others or read Hahn, Asola or Bermy at this point, unless someone peaks my interest.
    I’ll check Modi’s though.

    By African on Dec 21, 2007

  40. I agree with you African. The words of the press are like taking a dose of poison.

    By boomann on Dec 21, 2007

  41. Well then you would appreciate Ken Bergers blog tday. check it out. He won’t be invited to play in the MSM reindeer games this year.

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  42. Yeah John Q,
    I posted there today too because Berger was right!
    But Modi’s new blog is off the chart Pure!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  43. Booman:
    I read your earlier post. Good piece.
    Reading these guys sets you up for negativity.
    That’s what they’re counting on.
    Sooner or later you start sounding like them without you even knowing it.
    I choose to follow the situation closely on my own without their prejudice.
    I go to the games and form my own opinions.
    Even some folks on here are already stuck in the mud and don’t even know it.
    I’ll check out Ken.

    By African on Dec 21, 2007

  44. no stephon tonight. flu like symptoms=did not make the flight to charlotte.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/21/sports/basketball/21knicks.html?ref=basketball

    By knicksdefense on Dec 21, 2007

  45. Modi,

    Your new blog is a great read. I love your point that if GWB was put under the microscope like IT he would have been impeached by now.

    Keep on writing bro. You are on point as usual.

    By JohnQ on Dec 21, 2007

  46. I just read Ken.
    He’s right on many levels.
    I can bet, cause I’m 100% sure, that the “fan” that got thrown out didn’t just hold up a sign. Think for yourselves.
    The pink slip had twelve signatures. Ten were from Assola, signing under different names.
    I think Ken also read me on this blog, when he stated what this team needs.
    A defensive minded post defender, and a passing point guard added to last year’s team.
    Kinda goes back to my Zach discussion.
    Portland has now won (I think) nine in a row without their best player from last year.
    Washington is much better than expected without Gilbert the chucker. They are a better team.
    Much better ball movement, and team play.
    Sorry DaVonn, but the Lakers play better as a group without your god.
    It’s all about team play. This is a team game.

    By African on Dec 21, 2007

  47. Count me in for the counter protest. Just name the date, time and place.

    Cooley: Peace and Blessings acknowledged. Thank you.

    Knicks need to sustain momentum from Cleveland game and prevail over Charlotte tonight. Time to put up succesive wins to make up some of the deficit in the
    loss column. LGK

    By Post-up Prince on Dec 21, 2007

  48. “Sorry DaVonn, but the Lakers play better as a group without your god.
    It’s all about team play. This is a team game.”

    Was that the case when LA played Dallas and the score at the end of
    3 quarters was Dallas 63 and Kobe 64?

    That wasn’t the 81 point game either.

    Funny how Jordan took 3 overtimes to get 69 and Kobe did it in 3 quarters LOL…

    I got my old english on deck in the fridge and it’s going to be a good night
    for our team.

    Gerald Wallace kills us every game but not tonight.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  49. Tonight is a must have for the fellas. They have to come out and get the job done because as stated before we have one of the most talented teams in the league when they play hard and play together. I feel as if Zeke needs to keep Nate in the rotation by any means necessary. I like the way he plays but he can’t do anything in three minutes of spot time. I like the way Zach is starting to understand the meaning of passing the rock. What has me the most distressed and depressed in this time of Knick drama is the declining play of my main man Eddy Curry. To me it seems as if he’s trying hard to be like Zach by making shots that he dosen’t dunk but can use his touch which isn’t that soft to convert plays. What we need at this moment is pure aggresion where he resorts back to dunking on people’s headz and stop settling for hooks and weak floaters. He said it himself that he’s been going to his hook shot more which is a big mistake. We need him bullying his way inside with no regard for human bodies because we can still win with him in foul trouble but we can’t win with him getting 0 points because without his offense he is basically just a big guy taking up space on the court. And getting blocked three times by a small forward is unacceptable play. After Nocioni blocked his shot in the Bulls game he suppose to have come back with a two handed monster cramb but instead he took it up weak. David Lee is starting to heat up and get his confidence back which is bad news for the league because I think his early struggles were the reason for some of our lossess along with a host of other things. And last but not least where is Renaldo? This was suppose to be the year of Tazmanina but instead we get healthy doses of Q.Rich and Jeffries. NOt that they have been playing bad or anything but Renaldo needs to be playing right about now.

    By boomann on Dec 21, 2007

  50. DEE-FENDERS

    Tough match-up tonight regardless of record. BobCats are very athletic, and will cause problems at 4 of 5 spots.

    Will miss Steph. If Jones covers Felton, Richardson will Kill Crawford. If Jones covers Richardson, Felton will kill Crawford.

    Steph will be missed Dee-Fenders are missing it, Steph & Crawford can’t play together. Some of you sound like MSM, when team loses
    w/o Steph, Steph name is not mentioned. When team wins w/o Steph, you guys say Steph is problem. Is this MSM in training?
    If Steph played w/ Jones team would be more potent. Steph drives creates fouls, gets team into penalty, he doesn’t shoot
    the fade-away 3pter. I hope he realizes that playing will help him get through this valley.

    Also BobCats are a vertical team (Okafor,Wallace, Richardson,Nazar), could be a lot of blocks.

    Team must play smart, and not try to run w/ team that has better athletes.

    Quote of Week—- It’s like the guy who comes to me and says ‘Coach, I don’t know my role’. And I said, ‘you gotta run the
    mother—, shoot the mother—, and guard the mother—. Then he says ‘I got it coach, I got it’-Don Nelson

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  51. AFRICAN,

    I have a SOS out for Baby Shaq & Calvin Murphy. When will they arrive? (LOL).

    Whatz Up ?

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  52. Good to see your post Statesman!

    If we have to pick our poison, I’ll go with Crawford
    on Felton. Richardson should get a heavy dose of Jones, Balk, and Jeffries!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  53. Felton’s shooting dosen’t impress. I’d put Crawford on him.

    By boomann on Dec 21, 2007

  54. booman,

    we are thinking the same things!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  55. booman,

    Check out Modi’s Cosellout!
    I’d like to see your comentary on his lastest!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  56. let me say this!
    I really like the way Jefferies is playing!
    He’s not shooting and will only try putbacks and inside
    moves that = layups! He’s stealing the ball, playing defense
    and running the court well! If he continues to play within his limitations,
    we have Zeke’s vision of a intangable type player @ 6′11! The pieces are starting to
    fit the mold!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  57. Ok Peace I’ll go check it out right now and be back with my report.

    By boomann on Dec 21, 2007

  58. Davonn, thanks for kind words in previous thread.

    Great article by Berger on post #15 (thanks Joh Q!). I left a positive comment. i might suggest that others do the same thing as he has broken a general journalistic code and deserves praise for doing so.

    By MODI on Dec 21, 2007

  59. Alright I’m back. And I agree with Modi and his analysis of the New York Media hype which is enabling 67 year old men who probably haven’t touched a Spalding in 40 years to become 15 minute celeberties. Who are these people coming out against the Knicks and what are their credentials other then being disgruntled fans? Why is a newspaper company endorsing someone to be fired over bad buisness pracitecs and a better question is why is this being allowed to transpire? Since the founding of this great country people have been influnced by the media by their own will or by the subconcios messages the media makes. If someone whispers something to you in your sleep for weeks on end then some how or another that thought will manifest itself in your life. If you whisper in someone’s ear while they are sleeping and tell them that they want a chesse burger for about a week watch as their craving picks up until the point they are hell bent on getting their hands on that chesse burger(this dosen’t work on vegetarians). This is the process that is taking place here. Isiah has been the GM of the Knicks for what like 4 years now and Kevin Mchale has been the GM of Minnesota for as long as I can remember and I have yet to see the national media pick up a movement against him. Why should Isiah be fired if this man isn’t fired already. His team has won three games this whole year and I know for a fact that he had better offers for KG then the one he submitted to. He was never compotent enough to get and keep the pieces needed to make the world’s best example of good teammate(Kevin Garnett)a champion. Now imagined if the powers that be would of allowed Isiah the freedom to have a KG standing next to a Curry, Crawford, Lee and Balkman. But I digress. It’s a shame that this public lynching is being allowed to take place when we are not in the dire straits that Minnesota, Chicago, Miami and Memphis find their selves in. Three of those teams were suppose to be playoff contenders while they already had us penciled in as failures and the media is conviently forgetting that Zach, Steph and Isiah have been going through personal turmoil this whole season.

    Who else has had their Father die in the middle of a baksetball game while watching their son play? Who else has been wrongly accused of sexual assualting a woman who wanted vengeance for being fired? What other team had to deal with a player coming and going for the first month of his NY career to tend to his granmother who raise him? Now I’m don’t want to come off as a person making excuses for my team but I don’t remember a team having too under go such microscopic scurtiny while the season is going on. There are no feel good stories about our heroes just stragiht player hatian from all sides of the nation. We are a disgrace to a lot of people who don’t know nothing about basketball because the media has painted the picture as such. What we need now is a collective push by our heroes so that we can win some games in a row to not only get the vultures off our back but to get our pride back. Right now the Knicks are like a battered woman who keeps coming back to the same abusive relationship and never says a word about the treatment. And I don’t expect them to come out cussing the media or the fanbase for their sideways opinons but I do expect them to prove the people wrong throught the only course under thier control and that’s through action on the basketball court. At this breaking point they must fight as hard as humanly possible to regain their confidence and their swagger and once that takes place there is no force in the NBA that should be able to stand toe to toe with these athletic and talented Knicks!!

    By boomann on Dec 21, 2007

  60. Good to read you States, but just because someone says the team is better without Steph does not give them MSM training wheels. No question about Steph’s skills and talent, but it takes more than talent to run a team and play playoff point. Steph did it for a long stretch last year, after November. Whatever his reasons or excuse, Steph has not only underperformed but he has clearly lost the confidence of his teammates. Their play has been totally different with him on the court.

    I agree that Steph and Fred are a better combo than Steph and Craw. Steph and Craw are redundant and Steph is more talented than Craw, but right now Craw is a better baller than Steph. He commands the respect of his teammates and he is in the game whether he is in it or not. I defended Steph all summer and I was right then and I’m right now. Steph is not better for this team than Craw at this point.
    I don’t read MSM unless someone here suggest it these days. Their opinion is not nearly as trustworthy as the Defenders and I see better out my ass than Isola from the behind the press table.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  61. And this is the respone I submitted to this same subject matter on realgm.com. It’s shorter and gets right to the point:

    I want the people to let this marinate for a minute. Chicago, Miami and Memphis are all teams who are suppose to be Playoff bound and their records are similar or worse then the Knicks. You don’t see their fans trying to be bigger then the orginization. Only in NY is every man in island and the people turn against their team with such energy and vigor as to hold rallies in the middle of the street to get a man fired. You guys have been succesfully duped by your newspapers and are lemmings if you think your negative energy at the games dosen’t effect the teams play. Good luck on assisting to the firing of Isiah and wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. You fu@#ing traitors.

    By boomann on Dec 21, 2007

  62. Lives In Da House!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  63. Where’s BARF? I’M RICK JAMES..BITCH!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  64. Yo fellas…whats good?!

    Read Berger’s entry earlier. nice stuff. What I find peculiar is the praise for Hahn when he has been encouraging the booing since the ABS trial. Kind of peculiar. But, yes, the distinction in Hahn’s style of reporting is glaring when compared to the likes of Geico, Assola and Sperman.

    Berman had a tough week after he unknowingly spurred on the Pacers. Poor Curry must have been on the court like “Yo, what the fuck!!! What did I say Jermaine? Why ya’ll so amped up? Is the playoffs around the corner or something?”

    The News ran a boo sign on the 3rd page of the dailies for the sole purpose of giving the fans something to do when the Knicks were blown out.

    But quietly…Hahn’s been supporting the booing. But shoot…he’s Berman/Isola in training. His pitch is the same as the rest of the guys with the difference being that he doesn’t have the pull to keep the term “wacky” on his blog header and maybe he doesn’t have the pull to run a boo sign of his own.

    I’ve liked Berger since the trial and his posts on the trial. He’s always been off center. With center being the News and the Post.

    I just don’t see that much of a distinction b/w Assola/Spermy and Hahn. Hahn’s just the new kid on the block…so he naturally has less venom against these Knicks and the tone of his articles reflect that newbie-ness. It’s kind of sad cuz the work he puts in is good and his writing style is refreshing but the guy hangs out with the “Grumpy Old Men” every night out. Some of that is bound to rub off on the guy (which it already has) and his perspective is influenced by it.

    Tough game tonight. Charlotte has Okafor, Gerald Wallace and Felton. 3 top guys in the exact positions that the Knicks have problems defending.

    Okafor will give Curry fits and when Lee comes in…who’s going to stop Okafor from abusing him on the block? Nazr Mohammed at the center only means Okafor is at the PF which will nullify ZBo.

    Gerald Wallace is Artest minus the consistent outside shooting…plus more explosiveness. He’s going to be a hard matchup for QRich and Jeffries backing him up doesn’t do well against guys who can power past him.

    Felton is not Daniel Gibson. He can penetrate, dish and finish on the run. JCraw at the PG will have a hard time keeping him in front of him and he should know by now that there is no help defense in the backcourt.

    The Knicks have to come out with energy and hustle and Isiah has to be willing to sub in and out anyone not conforming to the mantra. The sub pattern has to flow freely for us to stand a shot. We do not matchup well against the Bobcats but team-wise…we are much deeper. If Isiah does not harness the depth on the bench…and our starters can’t hit the outside shot…I predict a DDD early.

    Again…Isiah has to be willing to use his bench to keep the intensity and energy on the floor at a high level. If he does not harness the depth on his bench and our starters have a tough time finding a rhythm…it’s going to be a long night. The Knicks do not have any obvious advantages on the matchups. Offensively, our frontcourt guys can do their thing on the perimeter but our bigs will not have an advantage. Yes Okafor bangs and that works in Curry’s favor…but Okafor also blocks shots well and knows how to defend the post. ZBo has to have a big game.

    Tough call tonight. Should be a good game. Gus Johnson at the helm?

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  65. I’m here Peacedude. Chillin. Yo, I don’t want to be the only one posting tonight so don’t leave me here all alone and shit.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  66. Roll Call, we can’t leave BARF Johnson alone!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  67. anybody care to join me to show this chump how we do?

    We can do our protest on this same day!!!

    12/30/2007 NY Knick “FIRE ISIAH” Protest at MSG 11:00 AM
    December 17, 2007 by joeyvworks
    Dear Die Hard Knick Fans,

    First, Thank You for visiting. The state of this team has reached a new low.

    Why should we have to suffer for the doings of amateur, inexperienced, immature and uneducated ownership and management. All the while being blatantly conceited and arrogant about it!

    The time has come to stand and unite. Power in numbers!

    On Sunday, December 30, 2007 at 11:00 AM in front of MSG, we will be staging a “Fire Isiah!” Protest & Boycott. This also happens to be the day the Knicks have a home game against the Bulls which will most likely end up being another pitiful Knick lost. An ironic punctuation to an already pathetic season.

    Driving by or waiting to see coverage via newspaper, web or television will not do. In order to make our point, attendance by all disgusted Knick fans is needed. Please support the efforts and message of this protest.

    Although this protest has been initiated virally via blogs, podcasts, webcasts, various media outlets and personalities have already expressed interest and support for this protest. Their identity will come on the days prior to and the day of the protest.

    We’re not pompous or foolish to believe this protest will be the fix to end all problems with our NY Knicks. As die-hard fans that have suffered tremendous anguish watching this ownership and management dismantle and ruin this proud franchise and everything it stands for, our Knicks. The laughing stock of the NBA. WE MUST BE HEARD!

    Please show your support Sunday, December 30, 2007 in front of MSG “The Worlds Most Famous Arena” with the Most Pathetic Basketball Organization!

    I can be reached via email at joeyvworks@yahoo.com. Also respond if you are interested in receiving the daily protest email update.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  68. Hey man, I’ll hang with you “Fast Draw Bart” at least until my daughter calls me back into the livingroom to finish the Uno game I was beating her cornrows in. Yeah man, I am the Uno King. All skill. Good scouting on Charlotte. What’s up Peace baby.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  69. I meant “Fast Draw BARF”. I have no idea who Bart is.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  70. yo booman, good post on curry and the need for the bench to play. check out stopmikelupica’s new feature on his site. He’s got a Curry-tracker where he follows what happens to the ball when Curry catches it on the block. Its interesting (although he’s only done it once).

    Curry’s problem is defense and intensity. It’s not in him. Can he learn? Sure. But he leaves you with the impression that he will never be a “GREAT” defender.

    Game’s almost ON

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  71. Yo call Lives, Peace and DVJ. I can roll with that.

    The other guys usually show up much later.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  72. No answer for Curry1

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  73. Uno and Bowling…two things I suck in.

    Turn the playstation on and throw the NBA LIve game on and I’ll bust your ass though.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  74. Q, Jones, Craw, Curry and ZBo to start.

    Nice shot by Curry but still finessing instead of power move.

    Okafor, now that was power.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  75. Craw miatake on D and O

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  76. Bring Nate in for Felton!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  77. time out!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  78. Tine for a timeout

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  79. Nazr Mohammed on Curry and Okafor on ZBo.

    That’s good for us. ZBo has the heart to tough through a rough matchup whereas Curry doesnt. Plus he can stay outside and hit some shots to warm up.
    On cue. ZBo hits an outside jumper.

    Felton is already killing JCraw. Craw can do well against the likes of Gibson…but damn…ah nevermind. Ya’ll know whats up with tonight.

    Curry has to NOT settle for turnaround jumpers.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  80. Damn Zeke call a TO!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  81. Crawford!!!!!!!!!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  82. Felton picks up a foul on a JCraw penetration attempt. Thats needs to continue.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  83. Why is Curry taking jumpers?

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  84. Now we’re getting some rhythm

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  85. 10-7 after JCraw hits a three. 8 minutes left in the first.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  86. We got away with a Backcourt violation!lol

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  87. 2nd foul on Felton.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  88. OUCH …CRAW!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  89. O’k so I say we are in this game. Now let’s watch Zeke’s substitutions.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  90. IS Crawford in a ZONE???????? Uh OH!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  91. Why is Curry taking jumpers. You gotta be kidding me.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  92. Bobcats are kind of thin on the bench with the big guys.

    Wallaces scores in the paint.

    I imagine most of their points have been in the paint because I can’t remember any outside shots. Kind of pitiful.

    10-12 Charlotte.

    JCraw hits a three and the Knicks take the lead…!!!

    Good offense and bad interior defense and we still have a one point lead.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  93. Man I was so pissed that Miami lost last night. Shaq looks very old.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  94. BARF >>>How in the hell do you post so fast?

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  95. Quick fingertips. My girl loves them

    HAHA

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  96. Q is back.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  97. Oh…that and I have a laptop in the line of sight of the television.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  98. Let’s go Knicks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

    By D L T Knicks on Dec 21, 2007

  99. ZACH!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  100. Q’s looking good again. He needed Isiah to take a shot at his manhood or something cuz he’s got the fire and desire.

    I like Gus and Johnny Hoops

    Every Nazr miss makes Jordan look stupid and Isiah smart.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  101. Felton still in. JCraw needs to abuse him and pick up the third foul.

    JRich is nice on the Cats. Warriors miss him a bit but not as much as I thought they would. Mostly cuz of Monta Ellis.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  102. Did Curry not move on that deflection

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  103. 22- 20 Cats after the Knicks have missed a few outside shots in a row. They need to get back into the rhythm of running the offense.

    DLee is about to step into the game.

    Wallace finishes at the rim. He’s hard matchup for us.

    Curry with an offensive board and a dish to a cutting FJOnes who dishes it to ZBo who picks up a foul on Wallace.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  104. Perimeter D is necessary. Bump zone.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  105. Get our energy players in now!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  106. They seem to have the advantage on offensive boards. Not good. Peace you may be right. We can’t lose on second chance points and tres.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  107. Nate can blow through this team!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  108. Curry moved but he let Nazr push him around. i was watching it too Lives. Curry doesn’t push people around like others do to him. he doesnt get away with it.

    any motion offense with a dish into the interior and our guys look stupid.

    DLee just got blocked ugly. Called it. Who the hell is Ryan Hollins (#15) and why did he just block Lee so bad?

    He needs to keep pushing though. Bump shoulders and keep his head down.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  109. Yeah. Put Nate in.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  110. Their bench is a bunch of no names.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  111. Damn. Lee has no room to do anything. They stripped him on the double team.

    We have no answer for Okafor on the inside.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  112. Lee having a tough start.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  113. BOXSCORE

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  114. Bring in Jefferies, Balkman and Nate NOW!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  115. Okafor and Wallace haven’t sat yet right?

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  116. Changing of the guards is overdue.

    Our starters are not adjusting

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  117. Alright, we saw there best! Time to Smokeum!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  118. First quarter sucked on defense.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  119. All of their starters have scored.

    Nate misses a three that was contested by the 7 foot Ryan Hollins.

    34-24 after one quarter.

    Not a bad start but a bad finish to the quarter. Wallace and Okafor had no rest and didn’t seem to need any. With Curry out, they are both going to the rim without a problem. With Curry in, at least their was a bigger obstacle on the way to the rim.

    DLee has had no positive effect on the game. He’s been stripped and blocked and outjumped for rebounds. ZBo is doing well hitting shots on the outside and picking up fouls on the interior. Felton picked up two quick fouls but managed to stay in the game and not pick up any more.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  120. Don’t like DDD. Okafor with 8 Mohammed and Richardson 6 pts each. Richardson adds 2 assts. Outrebounded 14-8. Call for Jeffries and Balk. BARF good call about this game. Tough match up.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  121. Nate
    DLee
    Curry
    Jeffries
    JCraw

    to start the second quarter

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  122. Jeffries on JRich

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  123. 4 on 1 against NATE and he stopped it!!!!

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  124. Good play Nate

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  125. McInnis sucks

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  126. Jared needs time tonight against anyone.

    I’d take DLee out and put Balkman in/.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  127. Jeffries! keep it going!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  128. Nice work Jeffries. Balk coming in. Zeke sees what is happening.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  129. UH OH TAZ!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  130. Right on cue…Isiah puts in Balkman but for JCraw.. That’ll work too.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  131. Curry needs to move around and get his hands up.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  132. Nate ate up a lot of clock without moving the ball. WHY???

    Nazr is back in against Curry.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  133. Inside guys inside!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  134. Offensive boards is where we will lose, if we do.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  135. Word. Curry just stood there waiting for Nate to move.

    Nate should have dribbled around though and found a spot to dump the ball in.

    Balkman watches Carrol put in his 2nd 3 pointer.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  136. Offensive boards 7-3 Cats

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  137. I don’t know about this Zone!
    Long rebounds are going to the cats????

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  138. I’m checking in. I’m just catching up the comments and just finished Modi’s blog.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  139. 42-28 Cats 8:36, 2nd Qtr

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  140. Still reading.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  141. We will scratch our way into single didgets before the half!
    It will be done!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  142. Man to Man is not easy with our second team against these guys. Its hard enough with our starters…i mean…you’re watching DLee get abused right?

    This isnt his game.

    I’d throw Chandler in a game against these athletic types. He’s got to have something to contribute in a game like this. Won’t happen though.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  143. Very even scoring for Charlotte.

    Mohammed 6
    Carroll 6 (2 tres)
    Richardson 6 (2 tres)
    Wallace 8
    Felton 4

    Lots of boards

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  144. JayBee forget reading. Watch the game and comment. Catch up later

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  145. What’s wrong with Lee getting cute.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  146. Nazr blocks a Balkman layup attempt.

    Our second team isn’t strong enough. This is what i mean when I say Balkman is not a PF.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  147. DEE-FENDERS,
    ‘Lives’ you will see what I’m saying about Crawford/Steph down the road. If Crawford is your LEADER you are in trouble.
    1st quarter D, left lot to be desired, but hopefully intesity will pick-up.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  148. Diwn 13, but we have the energy.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  149. Foul but good D!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  150. Curry blocked a JRich dunk but was fouled by Lee (?)

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  151. Then States we are in trouble.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  152. BRICK! lol

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  153. QRich on JRich (Q as SG)

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  154. Lee is having a very tough night.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  155. LEE is playinh like a dunce!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  156. 45-31 6:34 left in the 2nd.

    Lee blows a dunk…wide open

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  157. Lee’s scurred.

    He needs to be pulled.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  158. Get Lee out…let him regroup!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  159. He’s probably still tired from all the extra minutes the other night. hahaha

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  160. This team seems to have too much spedd/energy for our guys. Reminds me of Philly. Not good.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  161. Nazr was a good pickup for the Cats.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  162. QRich is doing his thing. Isiah needs to build a lineup around him and Curry and ride them into the half.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  163. We need to slow this down and go inside!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  164. Wow. Not many things going well.

    I said that our bench was deeper than theirs but they aren’t taking Wallace out.

    Wallace is our biggest problem. I even saw Lee trying to guard him.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  165. The Knicks can’t seem to stop these guys. All we need to do is get this to single digits for the next half assault.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  166. OK..Gut check time! lets get this lead down!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  167. Nazr is a nice pick up.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  168. That’s the thing though. We can’t stop them.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  169. This game is over already.
    May sound bad but we all see it.
    We’ve seen to many games like this and we already
    know what the result will be.
    Truth hurts.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  170. We can’t lose to these guys!

    By D L T Knicks on Dec 21, 2007

  171. We can’t even get our free points. Where are those Uno cards.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  172. ZBo’s not getting his usual rebounds either cuz he has to deal with Okafor when he’s in.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  173. DLT…shut up. Yes they can lose to these guys. they lost to these guys all last year.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  174. They are killing us on the boards, and we have too many turnovers. Play smart and play our tempo.
    What is our tempo?

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  175. Uno’s looking good right now.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  176. Why do you slap someone five when they miss. Slap him upside his head instead.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  177. Curry battling on the boards. nice to see.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  178. Hit those free throws Shaq.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  179. I mean Curry

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  180. Malik Rose in to show the kids how its done.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  181. Where’s Steph our scape-goat when we need him?

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  182. 51-34 4 left in the second.

    Thank God this game is on the road.

    Wallace is not missing.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  183. Can someone guard Wallace?

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  184. Can someone guard Wallace

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  185. Now Uno is looking real good.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  186. Told you so guys!!!

    Isiah look like a man that’s ready to do some trading.
    I don’t know about you guys but it’s not hard to see that a
    combination of Zach and Artest is dangerous.

    I’m out…

    Going to my girls house to catch the 2nd half.
    If she’s not on the computer I’ll check it.

    If not, I’ll check back in when I get home tonight.

    Peace guys

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 21, 2007

  187. Time for Thomas to question their heart!
    This is bullshit! Lets settle down!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  188. Q watches Gerald Wallace put a three in his mouth.

    This game is tough to watch. Tougher knowing there’s no one on the bench that can guard Wallace or Okafor.

    Lives…this is a game where we need Stephon. He’s legit at the PG.

    I dont buy into the notion that “No Steph” is better than Steph. Say what you will about his lack of leadership and his effect on the team’s ball movement but his skill is unmatched on the team.

    He wouldn’t help guard Okafor and Wallace but he’ll score against anyone they throw in front of him.

    Right now, we need someone to put points up in between Curry and ZBo posts.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  189. Do you think “Steph the scapegoat” would make this better or worse? Guess. Would Steph get rebounds? Would Steph energize this team? I don’t think so.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  190. Cleveland’s front line lacks athleticism,(other then James). Starting Curry,Zach & Q,
    puts at us a disadvantage against average athletic teams. We are bad transisting from O to D.
    We need to tweak some things. Bobcats average 92 pts, and have 60 w/ time remaining in 1st half.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  191. Zeke needs to come up with the mother of half-time speeches to light up the pound.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Dec 21, 2007

  192. The matchups here are not good clearly. Who stops Richardson adn Wallace? Who outrebounds Okafor? Not good.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  193. Steph drives to the hoops which creates fouls, and slows the game down. We are still playing
    at their pace.

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  194. ZBO finally,

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  195. Worst thing is I have no answers for that so I know Isiah has no answer either. Our only hope is that we can outscore this team. That’s where having Steph helps at the PG position.

    Any opinion that is popular on the other blogs…I usually have to find the contrary to it and adopt it cuz if everyone else thinks it about this team…its probably wrong. hahaha

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  196. Lives,
    Jeffries and Taz must be freed. Q to SG and Chuck at the point. Looks like he’s Crawful tonight.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Dec 21, 2007

  197. Who will guard Wallace. Why are we in a zone?

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  198. O.k. I’m done reading but I’ve missed half of the game. WTH happened?

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  199. Don’t need the blow by blow, just the skinny.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  200. Perimeter D at its finest. Pitiful.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  201. Come back City! Anyone got a ticket?

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  202. Look it seems as if there is a faction that wants to start a Keep Isiah petition and march. I’m sorry. A good fan should be objective but not blind. Too many games over the last two years have started off just like this. A sub average team getting off to a twenty point lead. NOt good. Its called getting a team ready and having the team prepared. When it happens once or twice it is low effort by players. WHen it happens consistently it is bad preparation and motivation by coaching staff. This season is not going to turn around. 67 point half. This is not Phoenix they are playing. Zeke has to go now or after the season.

    By Kevin Harewood on Dec 21, 2007

  203. 67-44 at the half after JRich hits a corner three.

    “Worst defensive half of the season”

    pretty tough.

    I might ghost in the second half guys. I’ll give them the third quarter and thats it.

    Check the record. I called it in my pregame half assed analysis…not an easy game for us.

    The thing is…when we lose…shit…we lose BAD!!!

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  204. 67 points at the half??? WTF!!!??? Deefense?? Are we still running that 2-3 zone?

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  205. Isiah: “You guys have NO HEART. That’s it. I’m out. See you in the second half.”

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  206. Re: #201 - And then what Kevin? Since you seem to be here to “enlighten” us. Enlighten.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  207. Horrible perimeter D.

    Unable to maintain pace. Wore down Lee and Curry.

    Man defense pitiful.

    Rebounding worse.

    Can’t blame Zeke. No combination good enough for this matchup. Perhaps not enough Taz and Jeffries.

    Richardson 13 (3 tres)
    Wallace 20 (2 tres)
    Okafor 10
    Mohammad 8

    Mohammad 8 rebounds
    Okafor 4
    Felton 3
    Hollins 3

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  208. Wait a minute guys!
    This is the BOBCATS! Lets see if they can squander a lead!
    3Rd quater we should inch our way back into this game!
    BTW….. Steph wouldn’t make a difference!
    Lee is playing like a buffoon!

    Play Balk on Wallace the whole 2nd! Get the Fuck out
    of a Zone! We super suck at that! We will make a run,
    lets hope it’s early!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  209. Harewood…

    see my point is…if Dolan is still the owner…then why fire Isiah?

    This problem didn’t start with Isiah. It started with Dolan.

    So you fire Isiah and we, the fans, are still stuck for years.

    I don’t buy it man. Riley booked. Ewing was ousted. Van Gundy was run through the mud in the papers. Every coach/player except for DLee has been killed here.

    I’m tired of watching people come and go. If Sloan gets 20 years of chip-less basketball…Isiah deserves more here. I dont buy it. These are the lean years and this is a flawed roster.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  210. The Cats shooting 58% from the field????
    No way that continues unless we let them!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  211. Curry 11
    Randolph 11
    Crawford 9
    Richardson 6

    Randolph and Curry 5 boards each in 16 and 18 minutes respectively

    Crawford and Jeffries 3 boards each

    Knicks only 6 personal fouls which means no hands on anybody.

    Do the Knicks get back into this game?

    It’s possible. How?

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  212. Nazr was a good pickup short term for this team. He usually will pick up around this time of year once he’s done fasting.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  213. Thanks Lives.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  214. Harewood,

    The Goat is DEAD! Who is the Savior? Drtossman????

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  215. Fellas,
    As long as Crawford and Q are starting we will always be at a disadvantage. If Zeke doesn’t
    change the starting 5, he will be out of work.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  216. Peace…the game is done. Now, its about not getting killed.

    The Cats have been hot lately. The Knicks haven’t. Plus, we don’t matchup well with this team. We didn’t matchup well last year and now, with Nazr allowing Okafor to run at the PF position, we matchup LESS.

    I can’t blame Zeke for this.

    Although, I can blame him for not putting Chandler in there. If we are gonna lose, I’d like to see the kid get some burn in.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  217. I co-sign with Peace at #207. This game is still winnable. I take back what I said about not blaming Zeke. He should be able to figure this puzzle out.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  218. How can we play so well on Wednesday and stuck 2 days later?

    Wallace is having target practice.

    Losing by 23 AT HALFTIME to ……what are their names….oh,Bobcats

    By D L T Knicks on Dec 21, 2007

  219. States, who starts tonight and changes whats happening?

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  220. Harewood,

    Where did you buy that PINK SLIP SUIT?
    Let Davonn Know!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  221. Somebody MAY get a pink slip for Christmas.

    By D L T Knicks on Dec 21, 2007

  222. DLee was killed tonight.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  223. Kevin,

    I think that they are prepared, they are structurally flawed in starting 5. Fine-tuning and they will be ok.
    Next guy will get credit for work that Isiah did. However Isiah refused to correct the chemistry issues.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  224. I’m just looking at the boxscore but if Jamal is running the point, why does he only have 1 assist? Is he moving the ball? Fred has 4 assists. Malik and Zach have 1 each. No other Knick has an assist.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 21, 2007

  225. BARF!

    Come on man! This game is NOT over!
    Damn son, watch and learn something!

    By Peaceman on Dec 21, 2007

  226. Doesn’t anybody put a body on anybody in the “New and Diluted” NBA?

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  227. Barf,

    I start Zach,Curry, Balk, Jones, & call the scape-goat.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  228. Balk adds athleticism.

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  229. O’K guys, if the Knicks are not going to play, I’m gonna hang out with my daughter. Hey, it’s dinnertime anyway. I’ll be back.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  230. States…Balk hasnt done anything. He looked lost out there so far. Stephon’s not an option tonight. You proved my point.

    Peace…when is the game over?

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  231. Fellas,

    Later, the Knicks have quit…..Again

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  232. i need to get some food myself. this game isn’t doing much for me.

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  233. Good News.

    Jerome James will fit in here.

    By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Dec 21, 2007

  234. now isiah and qrich are going at it.

    great

    buncha pussies on this roster

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  235. 75-51 7:39 left in the third

    By BARF on Dec 21, 2007

  236. Barf,

    No Barf, the more Balk plays the better he plays. A few minutes does not help his game.
    Steph is looking for a little love (no homo).
    I don’t know your POINT. But I hope you don’t blame Steph for this one.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 21, 2007

  237. Yo the past is the past. As I have said in the Knick Nation last year the seed for this Knick problem on the basketball court began years ago. IMHO it began the year team went to the finals and overestimated the abilities of Spree, Camby and Houston and forgot that Ewing had actually played the early series of that run. Got worse when they traded Camby and Nene for McDyess. we could speak on that for ever and personally until this year I have.

    HOwever, it it vitally important for bad things to be moving forward instead of backwards. Those of you (which is many of you) who used to be part of Knick