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Sixers take on Knicks at the Garden

December 7, 2007 – 1:00 pm

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See the previous post for coupons for tonight’s game.

Steph and Curry have apparently been penciled back into the starting lineup for tonight.  There has been some good discussion here lately about who should and should not start, considering the performance of the team against New Jersey.  Tonight is another opportunity to see if Isiah can get back to the 8-man rotation that seemed promising early into the season before the eight game loosing streak.

Should the knicks put defensive pressure on point guard Andre Miller, swingman Andre Iguodala and shooter Kyle Korver (who has been struggling from the field this season despite shooting well against the knicks in recent years), they stand a good chance of winning tonight’s contest.  The Sixers are flat-out rebuilding in a post-Iverson era of their franchise.

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  1. 236 Responses to “Sixers take on Knicks at the Garden”

  2. To reiterate a recent post of mine, the sixers gave Boston all they could handle
    last game. If the Knicks think this is a cake walk tonight, we will get our ass handed
    to us like an early Christmas present! The Knicks must play an A game, because Philly
    is a dangerous team that has nothing to lose!

    By Peaceman on Dec 7, 2007 at 1:08 pm

  3. I’d mainly concentrate on AI. Shutting him down would give us the best chance to secure a W.

    By John Q on Dec 7, 2007 at 1:38 pm

  4. According to Alan’s blog Steph will play tonite and start. Then he goes on to quote Marbury as saying he doesn’t want to be there and Zeke as saying he doesn’t expect him to be 100% focussed. I don’t get it. The team has said that Marbury could have all the time he wants to grieve. If he doesn’t want to be there and won’t be focussed, why would he play ? I think it would be best for all parties involved if he just took the next 2 games to grieve. What are your thoughts, defenders ????

    By John Q on Dec 7, 2007 at 1:56 pm

  5. I sure hope Zeke gives Curry the quick hook if he’s not playing up to par, as well as Marbury.

    I also hope he continues to run Craw at the point….Steph is best off the ball, where he can create as well.

    Gotta find some decent time for Jones. He’s earned it.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 7, 2007 at 1:57 pm

  6. I don’t agree with trading Zach!!!

    I don’t think Curry will ever play defense.

    If a good deal comes up for Curry, like the one mentioned above with him and Steph to Miami for Shaq…..I say we jump on it.

    Why would we trade Zach?

    What Curry doesn’t have…..he will never have.

    He’s an offensive big man that’s out of shape most of the time.

    Amare is an offensive minded big man that’s always in shape.

    I’m not saying Curry needs to get to Amares size…but don’t sit here and tell me Curry can’t lose
    another 30 pounds or so.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 7, 2007 at 2:01 pm

  7. peace,
    considering the knicks have been at the bottom of the atlantic not quite as long as the titanic, every game should be played with utmost urgency. even if tonight’s game in theory should be easier than beating boston in boston, the knicks need to develop a killer instinct instead of trying to play from behind, as has been the case this season and last’s. how about building an early lead and keeping that lead? you’d think it is much easier to play that way, as we saw against Jersey on Wednesday.

    i’ll be watching dalambert since some of the defenders think he would benefit the knicks with his shot-blocking ability.

    anyone want to guess as to when chandler ever sees the light of day again? best shot-blocker on the knicks and he’s not playing 1 minute even in garbage time.

    By knicksdefense on Dec 7, 2007 at 2:04 pm

  8. I just hope Craw starts the point. He seems to be better at feeding the bigs than Marb. Plus is will help Craw get loose. We will probably see a lot more of jefferies depending on how Igoudala plays.

    Knicks will come home with a win

    LGK

    By Jazz on Dec 7, 2007 at 2:25 pm

  9. for fyi
    HOOP DREAM$
    KNICKS ARE FORBES’ MOST VALUABLE FRANCHISE
    By PETER LAURIA

    December 7, 2007 — If you just put aside their losing ways, the New York Knicks have a lot in common with their baseball brethren in the Bronx, the Yankees, according to Forbes’ annual ranking of the NBA’s most valuable franchises.

    The Knicks, like the Bronx Bombers in baseball, are the most valuable franchise in their league. Yet, despite generating the most revenue, they still posted an operating income loss for the 2006-2007 season.

    Valued at $608 million, the Knicks are the first NBA franchise to crack the $600 million mark, according to Forbes. The Yankees were the first team to crack the $1 billion valuation mark when Forbes released its rankings for baseball earlier in the year.

    The Knicks - whose fans have grown frustrated with owner and Cablevision CEO James Dolan for failing to make the playoffs in three consecutive seasons, sexual harassment lawsuits and other off-the-court embarrassments - nevertheless generated a league-high $196 million in revenue last year.

    But, with a league-high $166 million payroll, an $18.5 million severance payment to former coach Larry Brown and a $45 million luxury tax, the Knicks actually lost $42.2 million last season. That loss is the third-biggest ever for an NBA franchise in a single season, with only the Portland Trail Blazers teams of the 2002-2003 and 2003-2004 season faring worse.

    “The Knicks’ spending was particularly out of control last year, but profitability should improve this year,” said Forbes Associate Editor Kurt Badenhausen.

    As has been the case for the past few years, the Los Angeles Lakers ranked as the second most valuable franchise in the NBA. A full list of the rankings can be found at Forbes.com. The Kobe Bryant-led squad generated revenue of $170 million and $31.8 million in operating income last year and carries an estimated worth of $560 million.

    Due in large part to the star power of LeBron James and a $25 million-a-year cable deal with Fox Sports Net. Ohio’s Cleveland Cavaliers scored the biggest gain of any team in the league, jumping three spots to No. 7 on the list from No. 10. The Cavs increased their worth by a whopping 20 percent to $455 million on the back of its young star, whose ability to attract fans helped the team to produce $152 million in revenue and $31.9 million in profit.

    Rounding out the top 10 were the Chicago Bulls, Detroit Pistons, Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks, Phoenix Suns, Miami Heat and San Antonio Spurs.

    The New Jersey Nets, who are due to move to Brooklyn in 2009, came in at No. 17 with an estimated value of $338 million.

    peter.lauria@nypost.com

    By Tman on Dec 7, 2007 at 2:25 pm

  10. JohnQ,

    About Curry’s desire to play defense. I think he can. In the home game against Denver he played defense for one quarter. He also played some defense against Utah. I think the problem lies in his conditioning. In the match against Denver, he sat for most of the 3rd Q, came back refreshed and played defense. So it can be done. He needs to be whipped into shape. There is a lot of work to be done on Eddy, but he showed last year that he can develop his game and then I don’t know what happened to him this year, he seemed to have put on some weight around the time he got injured.

    On the trade for Shaq, it will be like exchanging a new E-Class (with manual transmission) for a 1979 E-Class simply because you don’t know how to drive stick. Shaq doesn’t have the energy to run up and down the court in a speed offense. The refs are calling him for a lot of offensive fouls these days due to his speed and changes in some of the rules. Miami will gladly give him up. Plus a Curry, Wade, Davis offense will be a monster in the East. IT don’t do it.

    By Jazz on Dec 7, 2007 at 2:38 pm

  11. I agree with DVJ’s take….

    How long has Curry been in the league now?

    My point exactly!!

    Aguirre stated that Curry was more active this offseason than any other…..I believe Q stated the same….and he comes to camp looking worse than he did when he first got to the Knicks and hadn’t been working out at all due to a bad heart.

    You gotta wonder how much the kid wants it…I don’t think he wants it enough.

    Trade Zach and keep Curry?

    That’s foolery.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 7, 2007 at 2:39 pm

  12. Bronx,

    You do not trade Curry or Zach. You start hitting shots and everything else changes. The Knicks have
    3(4,w/ Q), that can’t hit a 15 ft. jumper, (DLee, JJeff, Balk). What has made caused D. Howard to
    flourish this year has not been Pat Ewing. Howard has the same mechanical low-post moves that he had last year.
    He still cannot pass out of a double team. The difference has been Rashard Lewis, & Turgolou. If either of
    the guy guarding either of the forwards they will either hit a jumper or a 3pter. This eliminates double-teams
    and spreads the floor, which allows Howard to go one on one. Want a difference a year makes. We have seen
    the Results. Can you imagine Eddy being guarded one on one? Neither can the league. Curry would also post better rebounding numbers, because he hits the offensive boards well w/ only one man guarding him. The defense is bad,
    but in todays NBA who plays D?

    African. How were the Nails for breakfast? You came out going 3 for 1. Mak, Charley, & JohnQ, on 1 post.
    The Knicks don’t need another defensive guy, w/ have too many now. The knicks need to hit shots and mopve
    their feet on defense.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 7, 2007 at 2:57 pm

  13. States,

    Who in todays NBA plays D ? That is such a bullshit excuse. The last 3 championship teams thats who !!!!! and if nobody in todays L plays D, isn’t that an even bigger argument for us to play it ?

    By John Q on Dec 7, 2007 at 3:06 pm

  14. To continue the Curry conversation from the previous post.

    Name other centers (OTP’s) in the league you would honestly say are better than Curry, faults and all. I’ll start it off:

    East - DHoward, RWallace
    West - Stoudamire, Ming, Cambyman (don’t say that 3 times or he’ll come through your mirror and block your shot)

    Maybe I’m leaving somebody off here, but that’s the way I see it right now. I don’t see that many bigs shining these days. If I’m right and we’re talking about a top 6-9 center in the league, isn’t it worth developing him? What do you think?

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 3:10 pm

  15. one thing about isiah, he always raves about the newest aquisition in lieu of the other players. first he glowed about steph when he arrived, last year it was curry and I no longer heard anything about steph, now its all about zach and curry isn’t being mentioned much at all.

    just bloggin’, but I’d like to see what happens if q slides to the two, jamal to the one and chandler to the three with zbo and curry still in the lineup. last year I was obsessed with balkman and he impressed, this year I want to see what chandler can do besides the summer league and a few preseason games. he’s taller than q, better hops, probably shooting better than him to if you look at his 30% field goal percentage lately. i know q is a vet with a competitive spirit but if he continues to slump shooting the ball i’m all for chandler stepping in because Balk and Jeffries have not improved their shooting abilities as of yet.

    By knicksdefense on Dec 7, 2007 at 3:11 pm

  16. John Q,

    Maybe you are watching a different league,but due to rule changes in Stern’s NBA, noone is allowed to play D.
    Howard hit Amare for over 40 last week, Amare hit Jermaine O’neal for 40. I stand by noone plays D.
    Maybe selling Snake Oil has made it hard for you to differentiate Bullshit from REALITY.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 7, 2007 at 3:30 pm

  17. This is a tighter battle but I would add Bogut and Okafor to the list of centers better than Eddy. If Eddy averaged like 30 a game I would say he needs to stay, but he doesn’t score THAT much to make for his atrocious defense.

    Bogut and Okafor rebound and play solid defense. Knicks need defense over scoring.

    And at Tyson Chandler to the list. He gets a retarded amount of blocks, and boards per game. I would say Eddy Curry remains a poor center in the East…

    By PC on Dec 7, 2007 at 3:33 pm

  18. Blogzilla:

    I too would like to see more of Chandler. Why is Zeke holding him back? Is he showing little in practice is Isiah showcasing Q and Balk in order to trade one of
    them? As showcase pieces, both Q and Taz have shown little thus far. Q has been
    especially disappointing on offense, though he has helped with defensive rebounding.
    Q’s elbow has bothered him most of the season, but he seems to be on the verge of healing and hopefully we’ll see a breakout game of 15-20+ points, which he would post
    with some consistently last season. Then again, Knick offense has featured both Zach
    and Curry as well as J. Craw. Q has been an afterthought.

    I agree with Peaceman that Philadelphia should not be taken lightly, especially in tomorrow night’s back-to-back in Philadelphia. Igodala is the key concern in playing
    Sixers and must be kept in check. LGK

    By Post-up Prince on Dec 7, 2007 at 3:39 pm

  19. States,

    I’m not blind bro. I don’t think we are talking about 90’s ball. Stern has implemented rules to benefit teams like Phoenix. I understand that.

    San Antonio won their championships by playing D, same goes for Miami and Detroit. This is what we should aspire to be. How many run and gun teams have a title to show for it even in Stern’s new watered down NBA ?

    I’ll be in your neighborhood tonight to drop off that case of snake oil you ordered. It’ll have to be at around 7 so I can make it to the hood to watch the game at African’s. Is that a good time for you ????

    By John Q on Dec 7, 2007 at 3:46 pm

  20. Re: #1 - Peaceman I’m with you on the Sixers. They may be losing but they always play hard for Mo Cheeks who will probably be canned for CWB. We lose when we don’t play hard. You rarely see the Knicks lose when they bring it. So the key is effort. Dalembert tries to block shots so he’ll be sitting by second quarter. We’ve got to attack the middle. That’s where they’re weakest. We need dunks tonight. Aggression and anger. We should have that chip on our shoulder and dare somebody to knock it off.

    Free Wilson Chandler.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 3:52 pm

  21. Statesman, African, JohnQ:

    you guys bring up a good point. Stern absolutely changes the rule every couple of years to the benefit of the corporately sponsored players. Look no further than shaq, once his prime ended, defensive rules were altered, like you said to help teams like phoenix, and shaq loudly protested when those changes were implemented.

    The best thing for Eddy Curry would have been if Oden would have had a monster year this year, then stern would have been inclined to make more changes, but of course Oden is out for the season and who knows how good he’ll be when he comes back.

    this is the power forward’s time in the league. Dirk, Duncan, KG, Okafor, Amare, Howard, all of those guys are flourishing, occasionally called centers by the media but in reality they’d be the first to tell you they’re forwards.

    Shaq sucks right about now.

    By knicksdefense on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:00 pm

  22. Statesman:
    I beg to differ on that statement on not needing a defensive player.
    We need a shotblocker. A player that can guard the rim.
    Picture Camby with Curry. Picture Chandler with Curry.
    Maybe my eyes are fooling me, with that free welfare glasses, but I see the entire defensive intensity being amped up a notch with a shotblocker on the team.
    Three lightweights for breakfast don’t move me.
    I’ve had tougher farts than these chumps.

    By African on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:01 pm

  23. Free Wilson Chandler.

    Those three words came to me in a dream. A dream of what could be. Plus it sounded like free Nelson Mandela which was also for a worthy cause. This is the rallying cry for the future to become the present.

    Free Wilson Chandler.
    Free Wilson Chandler.
    Free Wilson Chandler.

    Oh well, it was worth a shot.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:01 pm

  24. John Q,

    Most of the rule changes were implemented after Detroit won the trophy. Miami won due in part to the number
    of free throws D. Wade was alowed to shoot, due to the new point of emphasis, not because of Defense.
    Althought it did not hurt to have Shaq, and Zo covering. Cleveland was challenge offensively,
    it had nothing to do w/ great D. San Antonio is a decent defensive team. Your examples on the
    surface seem legit, but when you take a closer look they’re specious at best, similar to SNAKE OIL.
    Find another SUCKA, I know KNEE-DEEP SNAKE OIL when I see it.

    Peace & Blessing

    By STATESMAN on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:10 pm

  25. JohnQ:
    Glad to know you’re coming to Da Hood tonite.
    I’ve got some Gubment cheese we could make some grilled cheese sandwiches.
    Yumm Yumm.

    By African on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:17 pm

  26. Knicks’ Marbury attends shootaround day after father’s funeral I don’t fault Stephon for wanting to jump right back into the fire…. and why not? Sitting around watching the team gel without him will not do much for his basketball ego. After seeing that last game against the Nets, how well team executed their game and keeping the Nets at bay; He absolutely wants to be apart of the teams new found confidence. We can only win as a team, unselfish play, passing the ball around and finally making our shots, no matter who it is we are playing. There is probably a new bonding of teammates, they will focus now on ‘wins’ cause there will be no better feeling for them all collectively.

    By Syd on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:18 pm

  27. African,

    Defense is more then blocking shots. Defense also is more then 1 person. At best in today’s NBA you can get good position and stop penetration dribble. Shot blocking is not a must, it is a luxury. The Knicks as a team need to become better defensive players. Sorry, but “Fantasy GM”,bores the sh%t out of me. You are assuming that New Orleans wants to trade Chandler, or Denver Camby, c’mon African, that sh%t is for kids and Sports talk shows.

    BTW, African, we need a point guard that can takeover. Do you have any idea when Calvin Murphy shows up.(LOL)

    By STATESMAN on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:20 pm

  28. States:
    Nice Jab! I felt that one. You have a little of me in you I see.
    Instead of free Chandler we need a “Free Calvin.” Chant.
    Nate did well in the few minutes he got at the swamp.
    I think the scholar has Zeke believing he’s the snitch.
    We all know Nate is no snitch.
    If we’re taking about Folly, now that’s a different story.

    By African on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:32 pm

  29. u bring the govt cheese, I’ll bring the crackers.

    seriously, let’s get a win tonight Gents. GO NY GO

    By John Q on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:33 pm

  30. Centers that are better than Curry in NBA.
    Rasheed Wallace
    Andrew Bogut
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    Ben Wallace
    Dwight Howard
    Shaq
    Marcus Camby
    Amare Stoudemire
    Chris Kaman
    Tyson Chandler
    Yao Ming

    Trade him if you can or tell him to start working HARD.

    By maestro on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:37 pm

  31. Davonn
    That was me on the last thread with the Marbury/Curry post for Shaq and 1rst rounders!
    I believe Shaq has enough reserve for two more titles in the right place!
    Crawford, Jones, Lee, Zach and Shaq would equal the shiny stuff! We would still be young
    and Shaq can groom Morris. We will still have Balkman, Nate, Jeffries and Chandler and Q on the bench!
    We could also find a point guard and big man in the draft. If it’s true that Shaq had to be restrained
    by Zo to save Riley, Shaq would come to the Mecca! He would be revitilized, and we would only need him
    in limited doses for 2-3 years and he would only be 38 and may play a limited role even longer!
    It’s just a senario. I wouldn’t be upset if it happened!

    By Peaceman on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:40 pm

  32. States:
    That jab had me going. I forgot the initial point.
    While I agree with you that D is usually more than one person, my point is that with a good shot blocker, the whole team would/should feed off it.
    We do need to become better defensively, but we’ve been saying the same thing last year!
    We NEED a defender of the paint/rim. We don’t need a scoring big.
    Defense is over rated until you get to the playoffs and find yourself in a gring it out game.
    Ask Phoenix. Ask Dallas.
    Defense does matter a whole lot. Playoffs basketball is defense and post play.

    By African on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:48 pm

  33. Peace:
    Who’s drinking the swamp water now?
    Shack!!!??? C’mon.
    Then you’d say the Knicks are back to their old days of signing old washed up players.
    We’ve seen that movie before.
    It’s a horror. Stephen King style.

    By African on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:51 pm

  34. Af,

    I agree 100% w/ your last post. We just have to make it to the playoffs and we should be able to make some noise. Now the hard part is just getting there.

    By John Q on Dec 7, 2007 at 4:53 pm

  35. African
    SHAQ is better than Curry Now! In three years he may still be!
    No disrespect to Curry, but Shaq would Help bring a title this year!

    By Peaceman on Dec 7, 2007 at 5:07 pm

  36. May I add we also get rid of a 42 million guard contract
    as added incentive!

    By Peaceman on Dec 7, 2007 at 5:09 pm

  37. African,

    What you and the other “Fantasy GMs” miss is that shot-blockers are not falling off trees. The Knicks
    can’t trade the Scholar & N8 for Tysoon Chandler. IMHO the team is set. Zeke has to RISE or FALL w/
    the CHIPS he has. Dolan is not going to take on new contracts, new players, etc. until the season
    is over and Zeke is either staying or going. In this make or break year, the Knicks have to win w/ the
    horses in their stable. Zeke has to “coach’m up”. If the shots start to fall, then the winning will start.
    Eddy is not the problem. Look at the box scores and if the Knicks shot 50% in some of the losses they would have more wins. Calvin Murphy we need you. At this point I would settle for Muggsy Bogus.

    Something else that I noticed w/ the team. Eddy, Dlee, Balk, the young guys did not recognize that each summer that you have to get better. If you come in as the same player as the year before, then you have regressed, because the league will study your game and adjust to stopping your strengths. You need to add a little extra each year. These guys must have been reading the FIXERS/DEFENDERS scouting reports that had 3 allstars on the team, and 2 future stars.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 7, 2007 at 5:22 pm

  38. Statesman re #36:
    Useful post. Very useful.

    KFLL

    By Steady on Dec 7, 2007 at 5:34 pm

  39. The spot is buzzing pre game

    random thoughts:

    AF, you’re holding it down. Grilled cheese would be nice for dinner. For breakfast, crack open a couple of eggs, scramble em up and toss it on a hot pan over some butter, take it out and put it on a plate and pour your choice of syrup over them…ghetto pancakes!

    Peace:

    Crack.

    Stop smoking it.

    Shaq is better than Curry, now? Nah. Shaq is fat.

    Not phat. Fat.

    States:

    Balance is what the shot blocker theme is all about. I brought up the uptempo shot blocker need because it would provide balance to the roster. It doesn’t have to be a Tyson Chandler or Ben Wallace. It could be a Stromile Swift or Sean Williams. A specialist off the bench would satisfy the need. If some people take it as an invitation to dream a grand dream and propose wild trades that have no chance to happen, so be it. But regardless of whether it happens this year via trade or next year via draft, there’s a roster spot for a legit uptempo-shot-blocker. Because of balance. Not because I want to get rid of Curry. I don’t think he’s the problem this year. There’s a lot of new things that need time to implement correctly.

    And as someone else has already mentioned, two wins over Philly this weekend and we’re very close to .500, which I can’t wait to see.

    Rasheed
    Bogut
    Kaman
    Zydrunas
    Old Shaq
    Amare

    Are either not centers or not better than Eddy.
    Sorry.

    And Okafor has been playing out of position his whole career which explains why his teams suck. Okafor is a lot like Elton Brand except that he doesn’t play alongside a big doofy stringy-haired 7 foot surfer-looking Opie.

    Kaman is nice but I wouldn’t want him on the Knicks.

    Not to mention the other 20 teams.

    There’s no reason to trade a 24 (soon to be 25) Curry UNLESS its for something dramatical…like say…another ZBo…

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 5:37 pm

  40. Steady, I was wondering where you were.

    I should be around for the game but the lady will be home…we’ll see. Can’t ignore her on a Friday night. It wouldn’t be in my best interests.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 5:40 pm

  41. Pre-Game Triva question.
    Did the team on the series “White Shadow” ever win a title?
    I was asked that and don’t know the answer! Anyone know?

    By Peaceman on Dec 7, 2007 at 5:42 pm

  42. Man you guys are down on Shaq?
    Crack? That’s what Curry should be smokeing
    to lose some weight!

    By Peaceman on Dec 7, 2007 at 5:48 pm

  43. BARF at #38

    You were right on point and then again you almost always know what you are talking about. I would trade Curry for any of those guys.

    I would trade for Shaq though if the Heat would take JJames or Mike Breen

    By Jazz on Dec 7, 2007 at 5:50 pm

  44. Thank Jazz. I’d trade Mike Breen for a used staple.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 6:14 pm

  45. LOL @ used staple for Breen.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 6:32 pm

  46. BARF
    The Heat play against your boys tonight,GSW @ 10:30!
    Lets see what the old man Shaq can do!

    By Peaceman on Dec 7, 2007 at 6:34 pm

  47. Peace… I got the crow in the freezer just in case.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 6:38 pm

  48. breen is garbage, where is mr. gus johnson? hopefully he’s calling the game tonight.

    By knicksdefense on Dec 7, 2007 at 6:41 pm

  49. Re: #39 - BARF you gotta man up on this one and include her in your plans to watch the game. When she asks what the two of you will be doing tonight, using your deep voice you tell her, “We’re going to order a pizza and watch the game. If you could blow me during timeouts and commercials that would be awesome.” Go on to explain how this will heighten the Knicks experience for both of you and bring the two of you closer together…

    …If she frowns up at that suggestion, try dinner at a sports bar. If your cell phone has internet access you can still blog so it wouldn’t be a total loss.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 6:41 pm

  50. I just spent a little time over on Gilbert Arenas’ blog site, http://my.nba.com/forum.jspa?forumID=400032200 , copy and paste it in your address bar if it doesn’t hyperlink. He shows some love to WaltClyde in this quote:

    “Why I’ve been thinking about the Ravens game is because I’ve been reading this book called The Game Within the Game by Walt Frazier and I have a lot of respect for him now. I did already because he’s a pioneer and all, but now I have a lot, lot more. Like, he’s one of my favorites now. He never got a technical in his whole career. That is amazing. That is amazing. As much as this game is an up-and-down emotional game, he’s never lost his cool. That’s what reminded me of it when I was watching that football game. If he would have read Walt Frazier’s book, maybe he wouldn’t have thrown that flag.

    There are a couple of other interesting nuggets, so I’ma play spy and see if he dishes any usable goodies on his team.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 6:54 pm

  51. JB, there’s something a little funny about a headjob while watching 10 sweaty men run up and down the floor. Ever heard of the dog and the ringing bell? Pavlov’s dog? I have to be mindful of conditioning myself by mixing two of my passions.

    I got two TV’s, wireless internet and a girl who remembers taking a picture (which she has somewhere poster-sized) of John Starks taking (and missing) a three pter in one of their playoff series. So its not like I have to hang out with her or that she hates sports (bball is my only sport, lucky her) but that I feel compelled to. The weekend’s here, the week’s been long and after work the night’s are short…I got DVR and stay up late anyway…

    but lucky for me, the girl’s gonna be out. good for her.

    Games about to start

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:10 pm

  52. So far so good. Zach is looking to pass into Curry quickly. Nice.

    Curry at the line after drawing a foul on Hunter(?, who’s their PF)

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:13 pm

  53. 6-2 Knicks to start the game after a JCraw steal.

    Sixers look like they don’t want to play tonight.

    Ooops. Dalembert skips by Curry for the and1. Misses the freebie. 6-4, Knicks

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:15 pm

  54. Dalembert’s having a real problem with Curry. The Knicks are feeding him like his mother during the holidays.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:20 pm

  55. ZBo is having a problem with Reggie Evans in the post. Weird. Dude averages 5 and he has that 5 minutes into the game.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:20 pm

  56. Reggie Evans with 2 more buckets for 9 points.

    I’m not too worried cuz there is no way that can continue. Other than rebounding and hustle, Evans is trash. Straight trash.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:22 pm

  57. The two future Heat players are on the bench! This team on the court looks better!

    By Peaceman on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:32 pm

  58. 27-26 Knicks after JCraw hits a 2 in Louis William’s mugpiece.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:33 pm

  59. End of the first quarter.

    JCraw, ZBo and QRich have played the whole quarter.

    Steph and Curry were replaced by DLee and FJones. With JCraw at the point, FJones at the SG, QRich at the 3 and LEE and ZBo at the big positions the roles are more obviously defined.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:35 pm

  60. No turnovers after one quarter

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:36 pm

  61. I think I’m having a baby.

    Curry looks great.

    Offensive rebounds…a big block…post points…man, I’m loving it

    close game though. This Sixer team is def in the game.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:41 pm

  62. Marbury drivin’ after the Curry block (you heard right). Marbury scores two points for the team and the MSM are rollin’ in their graves.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:42 pm

  63. Gus is bringing the verbage tonight. Refreshing. Sup Defenders!!!!

    By Vic Corbit on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:43 pm

  64. The one thing that is missing is guard penetration.

    No free throws for any of our guards or forwards.

    Curry’s 1-4 from the free throw line, 9 pts in 9 minutes, 4 rebounds, 1 block 8 minutes left in the 2nd.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:43 pm

  65. Second fould on Curry but I’ll take that.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:45 pm

  66. Curry and Lee look like the better duo tonight. ZBo had a few good shots in the post and some good passes (2 assists) but Curry and Lee look better so far

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:46 pm

  67. Evans is killing us on the boards.

    By Vic Corbit on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:48 pm

  68. I can get used to JCraw at the point and FJones at the SG.

    FJones to the bucket with a left handed layup after a JCraw assist. 40-34

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:48 pm

  69. Freddieeeeeee!!!!! Get loose baby!

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:48 pm

  70. Iguodala hits an and1 on the break after Balk lost an offensive rebound. JCraw tried to foul him and keep his arms down but Ig is too strong for him.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:49 pm

  71. A very sloppy 2nd quarter. We should be up by 12 instead of 2.

    By Vic Corbit on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:49 pm

  72. There is about 5 minutes left in the second quarter and this second quarter has been all defense. And…it’s so much more fun to watch.

    Dalembert has erased a bunch of easy buckets for the Knicks. Knicks need a shotblocker real bad.

    Also, I love having Fred Jones on the floor. And it seems when Jamal runs a lot of the point, we have had less turnovers.

    I love defense! Let’s get some!

    By PC on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:49 pm

  73. Post # 70 said it was a sloppy second quarter. Ha, this is great. The knicks team has destroyed defense so bad nobody even recognizes it. The second quarter was two teams defending!!!!!!!! Recognize

    By PC on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:50 pm

  74. Randolph should start dunking more. He misses chippies all the time because he’s addicted to his smooth touch. DUNK IT

    By PC on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:52 pm

  75. They’re gritty Vic. This isn’t a rollover type team. We will have to beat them for the win. They won’t give it away.

    If you don’t think so, stop reading the NY blogs and start reading more articles. Cuz after reading the city’s blogs you’d think all these teams are sh!t and we have a shot against anyone.

    Truth is, this Sixer team is loaded with talent and their coach is good but they need one or two more vet guys.

    They’re starting to push the pace more on us. We have to go back down into the paint and dictate the pace. They’re doubling Curry hard.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:52 pm

  76. Philly is an undisciplined team. They thrive on chaos. Knicks need to settle down and punish these guys.

    By Vic Corbit on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:54 pm

  77. This is tough to watch. We are playing in a fog. We need to wake up.

    By Vic Corbit on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:55 pm

  78. Crawford beginning to heat up. 9 points and 5 assists already.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:56 pm

  79. Jason Smith hasn’t come out of the game. He’s giving DLee and ZBo problems.

    With Dalembert blocking shots and Green hot, the Sixers might take the lead before the half. Dang!

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:56 pm

  80. ZBo’s off.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:57 pm

  81. Nice. We’re going back into the paint.

    If they want to have a chance at the end of the game they have to keep attacking the basket. Phuck Dalembert. He can’t block everybody

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 7:59 pm

  82. ZBo’s scared of getting his shot blocked next to the rim and blows another easy layup because he’s rushed.

    They have to take him out.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:00 pm

  83. 53 - 49 Sixers at the half.

    Keys to the 2nd half:

    -Re-establish Curry in the paint.
    -Use ZBo to feed the post because defensively he’s having problems
    -Attack the basket and try to get to the line to give the bigs a break

    And last but not least..try to play some D.

    It feels like we haven’t stopped them in too long.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:04 pm

  84. Another team getting 50 by the half. We have to increase the defensive intensity.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:06 pm

  85. Are we still happy to see Curry?

    I’m not.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:21 pm

  86. Can’t blame this 2nd half start on Steph. Turnovers from everywhere. Crawford, Jones, what is
    going on.

    By STATESMAN on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:24 pm

  87. He’s playing well Bx. What’s wrong?

    You still think he’s gonna wake up one day possessed by the spirit of Wilt Chamberlain or something.

    He’s doing okay. Challenging shots too

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:25 pm

  88. Curry and ZBo had problems with someone be it Dalembert or Evans.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:26 pm

  89. @ Barf…

    I think most folks have set the bar pretty low for Curry….if he blocks an occasional shot, grabs a rebound or two, or does anything out of the ordinary (for him) we think he’s doin’ “ok”…..

    More needs to be demanded of Curry…..not just the occasional stuff someone with his talent should be doing anyway.

    He can start by getting in shape. I need to get a bigger TV just to see all of him.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:28 pm

  90. after those 2 drives by FJones for back to back turnovers, I missed Steph.

    ZBo looked slow and out of it, so he was pulled

    Curry leveled Evans after a post battle for position and he was pulled.

    Now we have a small lineup and are making some noise

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:28 pm

  91. If they would just take their time on their moves and keep their bodies between ball and defender, it would be easier. Plus, the guards are making them mad because they are taking too long to get them the ball, forcing them to exert more energy on the blocks. Hard to hold off a defender for 15 seconds waiting for the guard to pass.

    Ball movement still is good.

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:29 pm

  92. If we only had a perimeter shooter…

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:30 pm

  93. I think your standards are too high for Curry. You know what we had in him from last season. He’s better than that. Not much better but he’s making progress.

    I dont think my standards are low or high…

    I just enjoy watching my fav team.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:30 pm

  94. That’s the way to run the pick and roll, Q and Lee!

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:30 pm

  95. Q for 3!!! Let’s go!!

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:31 pm

  96. 9-0 run since Curry left the game…

    The ball is moving, and we’re rebounding better as a team.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:31 pm

  97. @ BARF…

    “I just enjoy watching my fav team”…

    Ditto bruh..

    Curry just pisses me off, that’s all.

    All that fuggin’ talent.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:32 pm

  98. Lee is having a very good game. His help D is awesome!

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:33 pm

  99. DLee should be nicknamed Inspector Gadget.

    Go go gadget Lee. They way he picked up that offensive board off the JCraw miss was amazing. It looked like his arm stretched out for it.

    Either gadget man or Mr Fantastic.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:33 pm

  100. He pisses me off too. You better know that.

    But give him some credit too. Every now and again. He’s having a good game. Even threw Evans on the floor…which i liked.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:34 pm

  101. The flopping in the NBA is RIDICULOUS!!!

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:36 pm

  102. Argh!

    Offensive foul on Crawford.

    how many turnovers have they had during the third?

    Damn..

    nice comeback though. We need a strong fourth.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:36 pm

  103. We got to have this game.

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:42 pm

  104. No one’s getting to the line.
    That’s the big difference.
    That and they aren’t hitting their open shots.

    72-67, Sixers end of the third.

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:43 pm

  105. Zach is in London…

    Craw is gettin’ it done….but he needs some help.

    Or maybe not…

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:56 pm

  106. How can you double off of Korver?

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:56 pm

  107. Zach is having trouble shooting over Evans and Dalembert

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:57 pm

  108. craw’s having an amazing game. zeke’s given him the green light to shoot it. who’s team is it now, steph?

    By Charles Follymacher on Dec 7, 2007 at 8:58 pm

  109. We played like Shyt!
    Game over!

    By Peaceman on Dec 7, 2007 at 9:03 pm

  110. That kid Williams is the truth…

    Game over.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 7, 2007 at 9:03 pm

  111. Playing like that right out of high school? Wow.

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 9:04 pm

  112. wack

    i’m out

    By BARF on Dec 7, 2007 at 9:12 pm

  113. Zeke as the culprit. Nothing But Actors.

    I’m out like Zach shouldabin!

    KFLL

    By Steady on Dec 7, 2007 at 9:14 pm

  114. Oh, 3rd year. Very good game for Lou Williams. Hopefully Marbury can slow him down tomorrow night.

    By HarleminMD on Dec 7, 2007 at 9:16 pm

  115. Raptors losing to the Celtics by 34 in the fourth. Yet no one cares.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 9:26 pm

  116. Like I said 6-8 best case.

    By Tom on Dec 7, 2007 at 9:59 pm

  117. Like I said 10-4 worst case. I knew you’d be here Tom. I just freakin’ knew it.

    By Jay Bee on Dec 7, 2007 at 10:07 pm

  118. Very sad night.

    See what happens when you put Steph and Curry back in the starting line up?

    We are better without Steph and Curry.

    Jamal looked great tonight. Another reason why he should lead this team and not Steph.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 7, 2007 at 10:43 pm

  119. Google Alert - new york knicks Fri 12/7/2007 10:28 PM

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    By Syd on Dec 8, 2007 at 3:58 am

  120. Like most everyone else I assumed we should pull out wins vs Phlustered Philly, but then again we stole a game we weren’t “supposed” to win. Still stickin with 7 wins for December. LGK!

    By Charles Follymacher on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:17 am

  121. JB,
    6-8 is an big improvement over your 1-2 month and your 6-12 year.

    By Tom on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:49 am

  122. The Bulls signed Nichols last night.

    By Trane on Dec 8, 2007 at 11:25 am

  123. Testing.

    By Charles Follymacher on Dec 8, 2007 at 11:27 am

  124. Third time for DNice…what’s the harm?. Hm. Tried to put in this link earlier this am, but I got the heisman. All good now?

    By Charles Follymacher on Dec 8, 2007 at 11:28 am

  125. Ah, seems system is rejecting comments with links? Spam control measure, KD?

    JB re #114, raptors won atlantic last year, playin .500 ball right now, bosh hurt, roster of likeable, “hard workin” players, and relatively low-profile market (did you see the Simmons piece on NYKs and market size the other day?). all adds up to getting a pass from everyone for the time being. locals are takin it as just an embarrassin loss, nbd. but, b’lee me, change a couple of those factors and fans’ll remember how to make a loud noise.

    By Charles Follymacher on Dec 8, 2007 at 11:35 am

  126. African

    Stick that Whole life Policy up your……
    I’m Playing for the Bulls! I’ve changed the Phone # you have for Me!
    I was going to give you some free tickets to see us when we come to NY,
    but you made fun of me! I’ll give them to Folleymacher instead!
    P.S. I’m gonna score 50 on you guys! lol

    By D-NICE on Dec 8, 2007 at 11:47 am

  127. Steph and Curry suck.
    Why can’t Isiah see that?
    Is he that bad a coach?

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 12:06 pm

  128. Check out that kid Budinger on ESPN right now.
    He’s the guy I was telling ya’ll about last week.
    He’ll be a top 10 pick this year.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 12:07 pm

  129. Knicks must bounce back from last night. Zbo missed too many shots.
    Marbury appeared as if his head was not in the game. J.Craw and Lee
    did o.k. I agree that J.Craw is playing better than Marbury at the
    point. LGK

    By Post - up Prince on Dec 8, 2007 at 12:07 pm

  130. Marbury always appears as if his head is not in the game.
    He’s trash!!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 12:11 pm

  131. DVJ,
    Is it not enough that you have been designated the Fan GM of the Community? I know you typed here that you don’t care about credibility for DVJ so I won’t bother to verify the credence of the “suck”, “terrible” and “trash” assessments you spew here. Never mind, I’m lettin’ that skip pass bounce right outa bounds. ;-)

    KFLL

    By Steady on Dec 8, 2007 at 2:08 pm

  132. LOL @Steady

    I’m only speaking the truth my friend.
    As everybody saw…without Steph we were able to beat the Nets in Jersey.
    Steph and Curry come back and we lose to the Sisters in Philly.

    I think it’s obvious now who we should keep and shouldn’t.

    It’s obvious who should be on the trading block and who shouldn’t.

    Steph and Curry must go!!!

    Let’s see what happens tonight.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 4:33 pm

  133. “As everybody saw…without Steph we were able to beat the Nets in Jersey.”
    without Jason Kidd that team is nothing.
    Stephon played 13 minutes total. Can’t blame it on him, he sat at the half and the knicks were still in striking distance but failed to get the win. ZBo couldn’t buy a shot, Curry, well, let’s see what Curry does tonight, he’s pissed off about Dalembert talking sh*t, so he should give 110% tonight. he should give 110% every night, but how many players currently employed by the new york knicks give 110% every night? only isiah thomas knows the answer to that question and many more.

    By knicksdefense on Dec 8, 2007 at 5:20 pm

  134. rematch!

    By knicksdefense on Dec 8, 2007 at 5:24 pm

  135. Aight Knicksdefense…..

    Didn’t know that Dalembert was talkin’ trash to Curry, so with that said……

    If Curry possesses any intestinal fortitude, it’ll be on display tonight.

    Cause like you said, considering all Steph has been through here lately, you can’t pin last night on him, although Isiah should’ve made an “executive decision” and not played him at all last night.

    He shouldn’t play tonight, either.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 8, 2007 at 5:46 pm

  136. If Crawford is starting, your team is losing. The record does not lie. A 3rd guard at best. Never plays
    D, and makes the CRUCIAL MISTAKE. Don’t let last night fool you, game became Craw w/ ball and do what he wants.
    Zeke has to take Craw out of the starting 5.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 8, 2007 at 7:52 pm

  137. I personaly think Curry should’nt start, as you see Zeke takes him out and the guards can take it to the hoop or penetrate and pass it to an open man for the outside shot…..I really think curry should come off the bench…..let lee start.

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 7:58 pm

  138. Did you guys see that look on the Knicks faces?
    Uh Oh…Phillys gona get there ass kicked!

    By Peaceman on Dec 8, 2007 at 7:58 pm

  139. Rest my case….Lee should strart

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 7:59 pm

  140. I told yall…Jeffries is retarded!!!

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:16 pm

  141. I’m so sick of curry…..cant rebound to save his life.

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:19 pm

  142. It’s so hard to watch this team.
    We are mediocre at best.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:21 pm

  143. Crawford needs to be the sniper tonight!
    He just takes a little too long to flow!
    It will come, these Knicks will not lose tonight!

    By Peaceman on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:21 pm

  144. Guys
    we haven’t played 20 games of an 82 games season!
    Give it a rest!

    By Peaceman on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:23 pm

  145. I’ll keep my mouth closed and won’t say anything negative unless we lose tonight.
    There is no reason why we should lose tonight.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:25 pm

  146. david lee time

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:27 pm

  147. The starting 5 not only lacks defensive presence, but they are as a group slow on getting back on D.
    They are putting the team in a HOLE once again, in THIS GAME.
    Talent but poor chemistry. Zeke needs to hurt some feelings by making the necessary adjustments.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:31 pm

  148. @ DVJ..

    Nah bruh..speak your piece…

    We’ve mentioned it before,and I’m saying it again…

    The Knicks seem to play better, more fluid ball without Curry, and to a lesser degree, Steph. Not saying that they’re a better team, just saying they seem to play better.

    It’s the truth folks, whether you like it or not.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:32 pm

  149. Why is jeffries stil in da game?

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:34 pm

  150. Davonn

    I Guarantee we won’t lose tonight!
    How much more shit can we pile up on this Knicks team this year?
    ABS, Currys life threating event, Zach’s loss,the Suns game away, Marburys loss, the press
    hounding for Zekes fireing? The Boobirds? You can’t make this shit up!
    CHILL …we will be fine!

    By Peaceman on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:37 pm

  151. You forgot the blow out with da celtics

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:38 pm

  152. @ Statesman…

    “Talent but poor chemistry. Zeke needs to hurt some feelings by making the necessary adjustments”

    So true….

    Several pieces that will never mesh…..

    Remember when the Knicks had Walt Bellamy and Willis Reed at the same time?

    Lot’s of talent, right???

    They were treading water with those two in the lineup together, but when they traded Bellamy (Curry) and Komives for Dave DeBusschere (Lee), they became a championship caliber team.

    Chemistry…something this team surely lacks.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:39 pm

  153. This is terrible.
    Makes me ashame to be a Knick fan.
    Somebody want to please explain to me how we have the highest payroll in the league and we can’t win one game against the “Sisters”?

    Double digit hole…..AGAIN!!!!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:40 pm

  154. @ Peaceman..

    “I Guarantee we won’t lose tonight”…

    I’ll take some of that.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:41 pm

  155. Peaceman,

    If Zeke puts the same starting 5, out there it will be hard to win.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:41 pm

  156. Is this a new fucking rule?
    The rule was instated for the shot clock being legit, not a player being out of bounds??????
    WTF? Make up shit as we go????

    By Peaceman on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:43 pm

  157. Am I the only person here that wants to see the Knicks lose enough to see Isiah fired so we can
    literally tank this season….get a high draft pick….hire a known and well respected GM (Jerry C or his son Bryan (Raptors))
    The new GM will trade some of the players we have now mainly for draft picks this year and just take it from there.
    We already have Zach to build around in the post.
    That’s the way to go guys.
    It may sound mean but that’s honestly the way I feel.
    I don’t think Isiah can coach….I do think he can draft his ass off but he just can’t coach or he has the wrong players.

    It makes me so mad because it seems he doesn’t realize what he has to do in order to get better.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:45 pm

  158. STATESMAN
    I’ll bet you a STEAK dinner that the Knicks win tonight!
    If I’m right, it’s @ Uncle Jack’s 9th and 34th st!
    If your wrong(believe me you are) you choose!
    Watch this Knick team the second Half!
    Watch us work! WORD!

    By Peaceman on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:48 pm

  159. OK BronxboyinMD!
    You can have some of this action!
    Are you in or Out? Same deal as Statesman!

    By Peaceman on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:50 pm

  160. Why do people continue to say that the Knicks are full of talent? What’s so talented about these guys?

    I don’t see anyone doing anything talented. Talented people score and pass and play defense. Our guys are just a bunch of excellent athletes that were at one point in their career highly touted as having tons of potential.

    By PC on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:51 pm

  161. This team is going nowhere….FAST!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:52 pm

  162. Peaceman,

    No doubt the Knicks have players. I just question the mix on the floor. The starting 5, was down 11,
    subs were made, and the Knicks up 1. Starting 5, back in game and deficit is 12. The guys as a
    group will not get back on D. Poor shooting, need to STRESS get the ball inside. Everyone has the
    GREEN LIGHT. Even the SCHOLAR comes off the bench shooting, and we know he doesn’t have a shot.

    Peace & Blessing

    By STATESMAN on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:53 pm

  163. Did yall hear what Clyde suggested?

    The same everyone but Isiah seems to see…

    SHAKE UP THE LINEUP!!!!

    We were in a ten point hole before we knew what hit us, and the bench brought us back..

    The main culprit….Curry.

    He doesn’t rebound, doesn’t intimidate ANYBODY..

    and bogs down the offense.

    Start Lee!!

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:55 pm

  164. Zeke has brought just shit$y basketball players to the Knicks. How can your startegy as a GM be to trade for guys that have never even sniffed wins. Meaning that they put up numbers but they suck and nobody wants to play with them

    ESPN the mag did a thing on Brandon Roy and in the article they said that ZBO used to stand in the locker room after the game and just yell out what all his teammates deficiencies were. They mentioned this because Roy eventually called out ZBO and became the leader in the locker room. How does Zeke not know this guy is a disaster. He’s a big guy who shoots 20 footers and is allergic to defense — SIGN HIM UP!

    By PC on Dec 8, 2007 at 8:57 pm

  165. @ Peaceman,

    You can defend this team if you want (and you defend them better than they defend themselves), but they’re pathetic.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:00 pm

  166. Are you serious right now?

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:04 pm

  167. This guy Isiah doesn’t even know when to call a timeout.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:08 pm

  168. DaVonn,

    I’m with you enough is enough, I’m tired of people saying its still ealry in da season. That is still unacceptable I want them to fire IT trade curry and rebuild around Zbo.

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:09 pm

  169. Bronx:

    but they’re pathetic.

    Hopeless, without focus, maybe psychologically F’ed-up, Changes are warranted. There is no way that professionals should conduct themselves this way against equal competition.

    Sheet and double sheet

    By St_George on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:11 pm

  170. Oh, and mike breen should get raped by a big curry look alike!

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:13 pm

  171. Thank you Knicksome…

    Like I said..I don’t want to sound mean because you all know I was ride or die with Isiah.
    This just makes no sense.

    We need a new leader up stairs (GM?President) on the sidelines (Coach) and on the court (Players).

    I’m not siding with the media at all…it’s just the truth.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:13 pm

  172. JCHUCK
    1 FOR 10. Look at shooting the last 5 games (w/ last night included. He is 3rd guard at best.
    Too many jump shots. Feed the Post.

    They will make a run and come up short, or even win. This style will not work against good teams.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:14 pm

  173. Mike breen “why not foul him?” what an asshole!

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:14 pm

  174. Davonn
    I will agree with part of your post!
    KEEP CURRY’S ASS ON THE BENCH THE REST OF THIS GAME!

    By Peaceman on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:16 pm

  175. Has anybody seen Fred Jones this half?
    Why does Isiah do that?

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:16 pm

  176. The problem is quite simple.
    Jamal Crawford, has one good game in three.
    Eddie Curry had one good game in seven.
    And they are supposed to be our franchise players ???
    And an even bigger problem is that we can not trade them. No team wants loooooosers.
    And the biggest problem of all, there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

    By maestro on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:17 pm

  177. HARD FOUL, just what the team needs.

    Peace & Blessings

    By STATESMAN on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:18 pm

  178. Maestro

    Da question is Who is telling the Knicks not to run to the light?

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:19 pm

  179. LEE should broken his fucking Neck!

    By Peaceman on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:19 pm

  180. They’re being outrebounded 34-16 with Curry sitting on the bench..

    He outta be ashamed of himself.

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:21 pm

  181. I actually thought curry was going to come out strong.

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:23 pm

  182. Jamal under the screen again.

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:23 pm

  183. Peaceman,

    Supposed Williams was your son???

    By bronxboy in Md on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:23 pm

  184. Why is Jeffries out there…..great no chance of a come back

    By Knicksome on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:24 pm

  185. Curry is a fat fuck that got everything he wanted before he got to NY.

    Welcome to the real world big boy!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:24 pm

  186. These girls ain’t made to play in our city.

    Get these chumps out of here and GIVE ME SOME PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By DaVonn Jefferson on Dec 8, 2007 at 9:26 pm