The New York Knicks (2-7) should be well rested and ready to go when they taken on top-flight point guard Baron Davis and the Golden State Warriors (2-6) tonight at 7:30pm. The Knicks look to stop their current losing streak which is now at six games, but the Warriors won’t go without putting up a fight, having just defeated the Raptors in Toronto. Don’t let the Warriors’ record fool you into thinking this will be an easy win, they’re a western conference playoff team who just got Stephen Jackson back and have now won two in a row after starting the season 0-6. Ellis isn’t shooting as well thus far this season. The knicks need to make sure to box out Andris Biedrins who is a walking double-double not unlike D Lee, only taller.
The keys to victory for the Knicks will be the same throughout the season: good ball rotation (don’t over-dribble, don’t over-rely on freelance scoring) get the ball inside, reduce turnovers, make free-throws (assuming you’re getting to the line), guard the perimeter scorers. The knicks simply must do all of these things if they’re going to turn it around this season. Sink or swim.
NBA.com has an interesting preview article here.
I’ll be unable to watch this one as I will be away from the TV. Hold the fort down as always.
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dvj, the game’s moving too fast for him on d.
nothing new
harrington has 4 fouls and biedrins has 3. mostly cuz of curry and randolph in the first qrtr.
stephon turned it on during the second quarter too for a hot second. only way to beat GS with this knicks team is pounding the post. any other strategy leads to too quick a pace to control gs.
they’ve had two turnovers in a row but we havent taken advantage yet
biedrins and harington out for the next 5 minutes in the third…this is our shot to get closer and we blow it
Zach needs to shut the fugg up and play ball…..
and quit dribbling so much.
They’re all tryna figure this thing out.
We can’t even get a rebound…
Incredible.
they’re tripling curry now.
randolph is frustrated. i called it though…stephen jackson took him out of his game. curry needed to dominate and didnt. and our second unit is useles against the warriors cuz they play at breakneck speeds all game.
No Lee needs to get his ass in the right spot.
If not…let Zach know when someone is coming from the weaksie…
Damnit Lee
with qrich useless from three, fjones and qrich are basically the same player.
curry is still being called like shaq in his prime. he can’t even battle for position in this euro-nba league. knicks ball is dead in the new millenium.
Do you think Isiah has lost his team?
now i understand what shaq went through. the only way to have a big man nowadays is to have someone else dominate the ball long enough and well enough for your big man to get open.
we’re cooked if we don’t go to the hole more often and alternate that with the entry pass. they triple the entry pass and don’t even wait for curry to get position to converge on him. the weak ass guard play doesn’t make it easier.
I think so, Lives…
If they can’t respond in wake of the recent series of events, they won’t respond to anything….
other than perhaps a coaching change.
curry’s got a fade away hook? what the hell is that?
The pressure is on and they are getting mad at each other. Zach yelling at Lee, but screwing up on the double teams. Are my eyes deceiving me? Marbury seems to be the best player on the floor for the Knicks.
“lost the team”?
nah. I didn’t think NYK had much of a chance to win. They have one shot. And that’s using their big men. If they don’t do that, it’s a wrap.
If we start losing to teams we have legit chances to beat and don’t because of lethargic play, I might have to concede his losing of the team.
JCraw stopped running on the fast break and Lee passed it to him anyway. Beyond the three point line.
Its hard to watch them not take advantage of GS’s mistakes.
Q with the DUNK
And you don’t think we had a “legit” shot at beating the GS AT HOME!!!
Yeah, we’re lowering our standards.
Nelly’s letting us get back in the game with this lineup.
But of course we blow it on defense. Curry’s hard to stomach on D. Same thing from last year.
And the funny thing is? He’s better than he was last year. Curry’s improved. But he’s still too slow to react and doesn’t use his body for nothing.
BFN
Big For Nothing
Fire Isiah???
I don’t know, fire someone!!!!
Bronxboy, I agree.
I see a lack of effort and execution reminiscent of last year.
NO PRIDE.
bxboy. No, did they even win one game against a healthy GS last year?
This is the TYPE of team we have problems with.
Phoenix and GS.
Those are the teams we cannot beat.
Why?
Because the things we are best in, they are better at. They are the fast break teams and they have more experience playing that style.
i figured it out curry is just a scared pussy!
Lives, I tried to tell you earlier.
GS is not an automatic win.
The Ax will be dropped tomorrow…believe it.
again curry is a pussy
Its hard to win when you’re depending on Curry to win.
BARF, I heard you, but you miss my point. It is not about an automatic win. It’s about not being an automatic loss and giving up over 20 turnovers to a team that doesn’t play defense. This is unconscionable.
8-2 guys…cant wait to read the papers
How many times is Breen gonna say “largest lead of the game”?
Seems like he says it every five minutes….smh.
The coach has to be responsible for why the Knicks are losing. MOTIVATION!!!!
If not him—who?
Can’t fire the players…and someone has to go!
Now the Knicks are are not looking like the Knicks I was glad to defend last year.
They deserve every boo they get tonight. And every bad press they receive.
I could see them losing, but at least show you are trying to play hard—and right now they’re not showing that.
Curry (and the guards around him) couldn’t handle the tripling.
It’s hard to play the big man game against the Warriors. This is what happened to Dirk in the first round last year. They tried to post him and Nelly throws 3 swing men (his SG, SF, PF) in to triple and put their hands in the passing lanes or go for the strip. If you notice, each guy has a different reponsibility. One goes up high, another mid-level and the other guards against passes out of the triple.
Its great defense. You need A LOT OF MOTION on the offense to give your big man a better chance at passing out of the triple team.
GS is the truth. Don’t sleep.
Garbage minutes let chandler play!
Who can play basketball in this circus? They are mentally beat right now. Booing from the start, booing all the first quarter. IT DOES AFFECT THE TEAM.
I figured we could stem the tide till Christmas, at least……
Looks as if Zeke won’t make it past “Black Friday”.
before I read your “they don’t play defense” I wrote a description of the kind of defense GS does play.
Its the same thing they did to Dallas.
How many teams in the NBA have a motion offense as busy as Utah?
Not many. If GS would have made it past them, they could have shocked the world.
“Lives’,
I don’t know if Zeke has lost these guys, but other then Zach the team lacks heart. Also poor chemistry hurts.
Jimmy Dolan’s got a decision to make.
Harlem, what came first…
The booing or the bad play?
They could stop the booing if they just play with a little intelligence and most of all, HEART!!!
Lives, I’m sorry, that 187 post was to you
I never said it was an automatic win. I said it is one of the games that the Knicks could win and I stand by that. It’s all about possessions. For a time GS’s possessions were not only limited they were missing shots and we were still not scoring. Yhe Knicks have a bad habit of playing down to their opponent. 24 turnovers is ridiculous. ZBO turns the ball over on doubles. Mardy’s passes suck wind. Stephen Jackson help defense is serviceable, but that means he leaves a man open when he sneaks behind the bigs. Lazy free throw shooting.
Sorry guys, Zeke is not exhibiting control of his team and his team is exhibiting no pride and lots of fear. They are playing as though they are waiting for the big hammer on somebody.
Randolph lost the ball again. Ridiculous. Zeke should just let them jack it up at this point.
Until we play a real SF, we will continue to get beat like this. I love Q, but he is not a SF. He is strong enough, but not tall enough to guard most SFs.
New Yorkers are acting like sheep right now.
Still if they get a win in Detroit tomorrow—-ALL IS FORGIVEN!!!
THE KNICKS NEED A WIN—THIS BLEEDING HAS TO STOP!!!!!!!!
THE FANS ARE HURTING(probably more than the players—and that’s a shame)
Defenders, brace yourselves..
It’s gonna be UGLY in the papers tomorrow.
Statesman, I am sorry. If after a year and an amalgamation of talent that I am passing off as a final post-seaso product, I hae a team with no heart, then I have lost my team. It may not have been my fault; they are grown men. But they clearly do not have the tenacity and the belief in themselves that a playoff team has. This is unacceptable.
It used to hurt, its crazy now that I can take the loss…..I guess cause I can accept them doing a big change now!
Bronx,
The guys were tight right at the start. The boos started with Marbury immediately. they just lost 5 straight. Real fans would not boo their team coming off of a 5 game losing streak. No support at home. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind a east-coast trip.
Dolan doesn’t know shit about basketball. If he listens to the media and itchy trigger finger fans to make them happy, he’s the biggest loser in the history of sports.
Denver, Phoenix and GS
ain’t nothing new. That’s the type of team. I said last year and I’ll keep saying it. They have trouble with the fast break teams. As do a lot of teams.
Plus, their biggest acquisition, ZBO, does nothing to address that.
What do they need?
A big who can play uptempo and play defense uptempo. A Sean Williams. A Camby. An Amare.
Basically, they need a PF who can masquerade as a Center.
They DON’T NEED TO FIRE ISIAH, they need to find an UPTEMPO PF/C.
Until they find that PF/C, they are going to have problems keeping players from finishing in the paint. Curry has no shot blocking ability. ZBo has no hops. Balk’s too skinny. Jeffries isn’t quick enough or rugged enough. Morris is too slow.
plain and simple.
Isiah has to go guys..
He can’t cut it in NY
Who can play basketball in this circus? They are mentally beat right now. Booing from the start, booing all the first quarter. IT DOES AFFECT THE TEAM.
Comment by HarleminMD — November 20, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
I hear you, bro!
BUT THIS US NEW YORK—-don’t be sissy and cry—MAN UP!!! I bet they become men when they cash that fat pay check!!
The fans pays to see these guys!!! They do have the RIGHT to be mad! I know I would be if paid money on the game.
The knicks right now should be paying us fans!!!!
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