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Poppin Scoski voted for Ron “ice dodging” Artest.
BARF and defenders who like basketball video games:
“So, someone took the time to recreate last year’s historic Game 5 in NBA 2K8. It’s not something I really want to remember, but even I’ll admit this is kind of cool.”
http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-11/pistons-scrimmage-with-cavs/
Maybe some guys can get a “Kobe Kobe Kobe” chant going at the Garden tonight?
Mr. Berman is blogging that Renaldo Balkman could play on Friday
Mr. Wilson Chandler may or may not have stolen his spot by then!
MSG channel THE GAME 365—-6:00-6:30pm
Eddy Curry & Zach Randolph
The first four choices on the list were all pretty good, even staying the course wasn’t all that bad given that the early results on the court are just preseason results– but with that said I am on the Artest band wagon. Mardy showed flashes law year, and hopefully he’ll recover from the knee scope, and get a chance to play this season and show us what he’s capable of. We could use an interior shot blocker, and I was sort of hoping that the acquisition of Z-Bo would free up Curry from having to carry the full load offensively thereby freeing him up to use some of his energy on the defensive end by way of shot blocking– perhaps that’s wishfull thinking.
Ron Ron made the most sense b/c as I’ve said earlier no V Carter or gay as R Jefferson or other star players will try to punk him and he could impose his toughness on this team since their looking soft and confused at this stage– yes I know it’s still preseason.
Orange and Blue,
Did you see Wilson Chandler try to dunk on VC? I’m starting to think that young man has the non-punk attitude that we covet. And his jumper seems to better then Ron Ron. I’m not saying he is better but he’s only 20 years old.
IMO, Chandler and Balkman aren’t “fighting for a spot”.
poppin, 2K8 looks great but come the holidays, I’m still picking up NBALive on PS3. I imagine it’ll feel better although the 2K series usually look better.
Of course, you can put me down for Artest.
Of course.
If the acquisition of Artest number 1, then the acquisition of a pg should be 1a.
Booman,
Yep saw it! And I love Chandler’s potential. Hope he cracks the 9-10 man rotation Thomas is getting together for the regular season– though I’m sure from what Chandler’s shown in preseason he ought to make that rotation. Whatmore I hope we don’t have to give him up in a trade unless it’s for a superstar.
BARF:
Hey thanks for the word on the news I provided. Your the originator of the hyperlink and took our community to new heights with your use of it to increase the amount of info in here, I’m merely offering the highest form of flattery by taking up the art of hyperlinking.
needs
1. dolan to sell ( but that aint happening )
2. a defensive specialist SF. Paging Mr. Artest please report to the NYK.
3. a pass 1st point
I know that John Q, and others were linking us to the Article from Newsday Ken Berger on how the Knicks still have a shot at Kobe. The flip side of that story is in an article by a Chicago Bulls beat writer who seems to come to the conclusion that the Bulls shouldn’t bet the farm on Kobe. Of course I’m blogging I’d prefer Artest over a a premadonna even if it is the Legendary Black Mamba. But hopefully this story will give DVJ something to be happy about and look foward to.
On the flip side of the injuries that have afflicted the Bulls this preseason, there is hope that the Bulls can still get off to a fast start this season but that of course depends on them getting more or less healthy come the regular season.
O&B
Evolution my man. You’re doing a fine job. DVJ was the first dude throwing up full articles on the board. I remember dudes were hating on him for that, now, news from around the league is one of our biggest draws.
I forget who requested the NOHOMO video, but here it is. Funny stuff.
BARF,
Can you repost the instructions for renaming hyperlinks, please.
Thanks.
the starting five I wish to see tonight for the exhibition game:
Mardy Collins
Stephon
Wilson Chandler
ZBo
Eddy Curry
just to see how it fairs against the boston lineup. crawford and q will probably start the regular season games, but I say, experiment with this lineup and see if we aren’t down 20 points at the end of the first quarter. just bloggin’
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Harlem in MD:
try this one out.
my bad barf. didn’t think you were around.
Lives,
That Chandler comment was sincere! It was not directed at any single defender. It was a general statement that I read more Hype here about him than I’ve seen! I watched the same games and yes I want this kid to be
great, but I haven’t had enough looks at him yet! I’m not going to praise what I don’t see…YET!
No disrespect to Chandler, but lets see what he really has instead of giving him ROY with
3 minute flashes! I’ll be amongst his biggest supporters because of his Game, but not the Hype!
Barf, Starbury,
Thanks again.
tonight’s preview by the Knicks
http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/boston_071022_preview.html
# 20
That Chandler comment was sincere! It was not directed at any single defender. It was a general statement that I read more Hype here about him than I’ve seen! I watched the same games and yes I want this kid to be
great, but I haven’t had enough looks at him yet! I’m not going to praise what I don’t see…YET!
No disrespect to Chandler, but lets see what he really has instead of giving him ROY with
3 minute flashes! I’ll be amongst his biggest supporters because of his Game, but not the Hype!
I was going to leave your earlier post in response to the Chandler alone but now WTF. What’s wrong with pushing a Knicks rookie for ROY. Other than PAtrick when was the last time there was any buzz in Knick land about a rook. Not even Art Rust Jr. could prognosticate who will or would not be what in the future. Remember? HE said Bernard King could not come back from that injury. The point is not even the best of us can accurately predict who will be what or where things will occur during the season. Once again the kid stated confidently that he wants to be ROY. When was the last time you heard that in print or on the radio/tv from any Knick rook? In case you misssed the point from my post, I want to see the kid get some PT. At this stage only the players and coaches know what he can really do based on his camp performance. What I’ve read is that IT is gushing praise on the kid and he also never backed off from VC. (I got the pics and the coach’s words). So I don’t know if this is diamond or a diamond in the rough but we will never know if the kid does not play. Afterall he is a legitimate first round pick. What I got in your response on a Sunday morning before going to church is all these F*ing F bombs. You Peaceman were pretty heavy for a Sunday AM we We’re only Blogging. Don’t Think I like that SHYT.
Starburyfantastic/Blogzilla:
I sense that because of your work and the work of our defenders the MSM is begining to subtly soften their reporting on our heroes. There seem to be (however small) more basketball relevance and objectivity. Can you imagine that Berman’s column today said:
“You can kill Isiah for many things, but drafting Balkman over Marcus Williams is not one of them.”
That’s my input from the EC
BlessUP
Looks like you feelas been busy today. I voted for a TRUE PASS FIRST POINT GUARD… We really need one!
I’ll check back in later fellas!
Keep it POPPIN
You can put me down for RonRon. I just think that his defense,leadership,toughness as well as his scoring, can take us up to the top.He can guard Pierce,AI(Philly),Bulter(DC), his shot can keep the defense off our E-Z combo. I WOULD think about giving up either Lee or Balk for him. “You got to give talent to get talent.”
St George
1. I don’t care about your sunday Church! I don’t see any difference in a monday
or Sunday, I post without reguard to your religion!
2. Re-read #23, you just said the same thing I did, in different words!
Hope we all get a good look tonight!
Peaceman: Thanks: I understand what I’m dealin with
Random thoughts…
This team doesn’t need a defensive specialist, it simply needs better defense at all positions.
Many knick defenders seem to be in love with Ron Artest, completely discounting his personal history and unstable personality. I could easily see a scenario where Ron Ron comes to the big apple and ends up killing some punk in a bar fight. Meanwhile, I don’t think the Kings are looking to get rid of him, it’s more like Bibby who will get traded.
Chandler has great athleticism, and perhaps a decent outside shot, but he is completely raw, and I think it’s crazy to start talking about ROY, before he scores his first NBA points. I do think it won’t make sense to have him, Balkman and Jeffries all under contract next year. One will have to go.
As far as passing point guards go, I’ve got a hunch that Nate has finally figured out that’s the only way he’s ever going to get a nice contract in this league. And this is his year he has to prove it. This is the year he has to raise his basketball IQ on both ends of the floor. Nate is faster, a better penetrator, and a better shooter then Mardy, he just has to play smarter. In any case, I doubt Marbury will be able to make it thru 80 games with his knees and high mileage, so both Nate and Mardy are gonna get minutes.
It’s the 2 guard where we need some consistent play. Q and Crawford have to get their acts together. We can’t have 0-10 nights and matador D
LGM HAS IT FIGURED OUT. TEAM DEFENSE. OUR PROBLEM HAS BEEN WITH CRAWFORD AND RICHARDSON. CURRY HAS BEEN ACTIVE AND AGGRESSIVE ON BOTH ENDS. ZACH HAS HELD HIS OWN. STEPH’S OUR BEST STARTING DEFENDER. JAMAL AND Q’S DEFENSE THIS PRESEASON HAS COINCIDED WITH THEIR INEPT OFFENSE. WITH BALKMAN RETURNING. THE SECOND UNIT IS SET. N8, JONES, THRILL, TAZ AND DLEE. MAYHEM AND MOTION WITH THIS UNIT. COLLINS, JEFFERIES AND ROSE WILL FIT IN AS NEEDED. NICHOLS MAY MAKE THE TEAM AFTER ALL. THOMAS NEED TO ALLOW THIS TEAM TO RUN. IT REBOUNDS WELL AND WE HAVE THE HORSES TO RUN THE RACE. THIS WILL HELP OUR DEFENSE AS WELL. REMEMBER, YOU STILL HAVE TO OUTSCORE YOUR OPPONENT.
@LGM
I agree that the 2 spot is where we need our most defensive help. I think our best 2-defenders are Q and FJones. That’s the reason I see Ron Artest as a fit at the 3-spot.Pushing Q to the starting 2.Yes, Ron has had his off the court problems…but look at us this year. WE ARE THE BAD BOYS OF THE NBA!!! It would be nice if Nate can step up to the role, I like his game….but with a full court pressing “D”. Q at 2, Ron,EC,Zach in the front court.The Kings want DLee or Balk and Nate. Need Ron NOT as a “stopper” but the good d can rub off on the rest of the team.
that was a nice little season preview MSG put together just now. everybody on the team is aiming high, and you can’t fault them for that.
Getting sick of that Knicks commercial with the nerd on the couch talking about the “formidable front line.” Seems more like an actor than a knicks fan to me, but then again I don’t know him.
What, there is no Radio?
I like curry not taking sh*t from scalabrine. steph looks pretty good early on. Good work with Zbo.
Defenders,
You can all imagine how I voted. In fact for me, it was a useless question as the commandment is clear:
Thou shall not covet OTPs. Now even in saying that, it doesn’t mean that IT will not make another move or try to improe the team somehow if another player comes along who can do something better in his eyes (judgement). But don’t get it twisted, this business of constantly moving players does not bode well for the team because it further ingratiates IT to the NYK to the point where he’s making the NYK a team that ALL employed are loyal only to him. Just bloggin’. Watch some MSM pick up on this point and run an inciteful chock-full-a-bunk article on this notion.
Next, I want ya’ll to BARF–no, not throw up! but Be A Real Fan. A Real Fan supports the players s/he gots until another player comes along. I know, Blogzilla started it and we’re just bloggin’.
JohnQ @12,
What’s your problem with JD? Does the MSM coverage affect your thinking in any way. The only way that I judge ownership is if they block progress by not spending for players. JD gave IT and open checkbook and to this point has supported his vision for building a championship. What he does with his time and money is HIS bizness. Who would you have buy da Knicks? What difference is it to you as a fan? Are you embarassed by the corporate politrix that played out in the MSM? As you can see by now, JD could give 2 rats _$$. Furthermore, he only cares about you & me when we are coming through the turnstyle, clickin’ on MSG or buying NYK tickets/gear. I much rather have an owner like JD then some control freak who will be meddlesome and then get in the way of every b-ball decision. And another thing, you want Puff Daddy or Donald Trump (on credit) to buy da NYK for $592 million? If I’m JD I ain’t sellin for no less than $800 mill. Ain’t NOBODY steppin’ up with those coins so let that ownersh!t GO!
I also take issue with this pass-first PG fixation. That is all bunk people who blog it are in recycle mode with that last HOF coach who’s lurkin’ on his next backstabbin’ victim. A PG who knows the game, who is born (as BX or HarlemMD said?) and not made knows when to pass first or shoot first. IT was that PG. KJ was that PG. Magic was that PG. They simply know when they need to take over a game because they let the game come to them. This ABS about “playing the right way” was another media metaphor for “Get that N… outa here cause I don’t want to coach him no more.” No player/baller should be “anything” first. Put yourself in a player’s position. You come down the court, rock in hand, you’re a “pass-first” coach’s left nut, the defense drops to the post because they know you’re looking to “pass first”, then what do you do? WTF do you do? Do you pass or slide down to the top of the key and take that 12-ft baby J (or better yet, that open trey). Pass first my ass. You let the game come to you. SM is our PG for now until IT moves him or he can’t go no more. Where did all those people go who praised his game/transformation from last season for “buying into IT’s vision”. What about those folks carrying Mardy’s jock for what he did while Starbury was out? Come back @ me but re-read first
KFLL
got done with my bob vila urge and I’m here to say…
just saw zach with a nice backdown post move on powe. dlee looks good but kg is guarding him so…
Marbury looks like a beast tonight. e’s easily getting into the paint and even finished at the rim strong(no homo).
Malik rose in. 25-24 Knicks
For as good as Lee is at rebounding, Powe always horses him.
Steady:
loved that post. Love that passion. Great points.
Steady
I’ve been on that wavelength the last few days too. But remember, they’re just being “objective”
what up af
DEFENDERS, I SAID THAT IN THE FIRST MEETING WITH BOSTON, STEPH IS THE DIFFERENCE. BOSTON HAS NO ANSWER FOR HIM. WE JUST HAVE TO CONTAIN THE BIG THREE AND MAKE AT LEAST 45% OF OUR SHOTS. GOOD START. LET’S FINISH THE JOB.
Chillin’ in the cut. Lovin” Nate. Lovin’ Jefferies. No Homo
Nate is bringing the whole package!
LLLLLLLLLLGGGGGGGGGGGKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!
12-0 RUN. HOLLA!!!
N8 IS IN THE HOUSE!!!!
Bumrush:
We don’t even need to finish it. This is pre season. You can’t show your hand. You’ve just got to get that confidence that you can do it, then experiment with difference line-ups.
I’m confident that we can do it!
Jeffries looking good on defense!!!
NATE got a floater on the run????
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
Defenders,
I see we’re a little TESTY this evening. Maybe we can attribute that to a bit of anxiousness regarding tonight’s game and the adrenaline is pumping. Whatever it is, I just assume folk are bloggin and just ain’t in kissy kissy mood this evening.
Nevertheless, base on the last score I saw, the Knicks are competing and the game is close. Pretty much want all of US wanted to see early, and expect to see as the season begins.
Steady, we could go back and forth on the PG issue, but I won’t. Peaceman, maybe you didn’t have to be so hard on St. George, but both of you ARE GROWN AZZ MEN, and I’ll let that be too because that should and will be resolved by two MEN (I respect) WITH GREAT PASSION FOR THEIR POSITIONS and OUR BELOVED NY KNICKS…Now I might catch some flack for this post, but we should be PULLING TOEGTHER, like IT is hoping his TEAM will as well..If I get smacked, I’ll just turn the other cheek…
LGM, like you, I think this will be a break out year for N8 and it couldn’tcome at a better time. His shot will come around just like maturity does as each birthdays comes and go; his hard work and dedication this off season will not go in vain. He’ll be that sparkblug/ingnitor that this TEAM needs, because HE IS ALL HEART…
Sorry you can’t catch the game on the Radio St. George…The Defenders will do the best their can to keep you in the loop my caribbean brother from another mother…
Keep it POPPIN