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Yo Blogzilla,

You are on top of your game as usual and the site is by far the hottest ticket in town for the unique perspectives on the NYK…All the BBALLERS are here representing, and so are you BLOGZILLA…Mr. STEADY as it goes coined that Moniker for you…It’s appropriate Homie!

Bend it like Beckham StarburyFan and get you some Z’s. You’ve earned it!

Keep it POPPIN

By cooleyhigh on Oct 18, 2007 at 11:22 pm

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Great Stuff Starbury Fan. 203 posts on the prvevious blog.

For those who don’t know and think that I may have disappeared like in “Without A Trace” or committed Harry Carey, and started rooting for a midwest team, I try not to post unless I can add a little something and/or I feel comfortable drawing some conclusions (I am slower to get there than a few of you). I almost never post during games, but I do enjoy checking in to get a feel for how some folks are feeling, although I always know how DaVonn is feeling. The good thing is that you guys have a lot of it covered, but I offer just a couple of points.

1. My least important point is about Jared Jeffries who is one of the few players out there who looks ready for the season. Yes, Chandler will ultimately have his spot in the rotation, because Chandler brings the dimensions that JJ just can’t: shooting and with range. But I suggest that you look at JJ’s game closer. Last year, bad things happened with great frequency for him. He was fumbling the ball, losing his man, forcing action inside and getting bad calls all the time. Last night, he was hustling; he was in the middle of loose ball scrummages; the ball was bouncing into his hands; he was constantly deep in a defensive crouch; his arms were long and deflective; he brought the ball up far better then Crawford and he looked comfortable. However, all of the above is a minor point because Jared will not be the main reason we win or lose. As Statesman might say, he will be a minor piece of this team or a traded piece from this team.

2. I will try not to draw conclusions on Zeke’s coaching just yet because he is trying to do two things (1) find the right combination to have on the floor most of the time and (2) prepare his players for the season. The decision who to keep was made a long time ago — but I already told you that and if I get in an “I told you so mood” I’ll post it again. That doesn’t mean someone can’t play themselves out of a spot.

3. That brings me to Crawford. All points have been valid. I have constantly had JCraw in the starting lineup because it is clear that Zeke likes his game and scoring ability. For a long time, a lot of you have been suggesting that JCraw come off the bench and that he is a bench player for life. Others have seen his potential and believe he is Kobe-lite, Arenas-Almost, Wade Redux or the Second Coming of John Starks. Well, regardless of offensive potential, Crawford might be the reason Zeke gets fired early in the season.

Crawford does a lot of things wrong but there are two glaring errors that will kill the Knicks. I would not say that Crawford is effortless on defense. He has no defensive one-on-one skills in the half-court set. He clearly has never played defense. For those who don’t, watch him a little more closely. When he mans-up against the speedy guards with quick first steps, Crawford’s body is always out of balance. He plays the ball and not the body, therefore, he is an easy, easy victim for the drive and for a pick (not even a solid pick). Seriously, if you put a yardstick next to him, he would get picked off by it.

This is important because when he loses his man, the entire defense breaks down and everyone has to make decisions which they are not prepared to do. Crawford is constantly waving his hands for help, but he needs to help himself first. Crawford’s best defensive move is anticipating the pass in the lane. You get two of those steals a game which has over 90 possession per team. JCraw is killing Zeke on defense.

Now where JCraw lacks effort and always has, except when throwing alley-opps, is in the passing. He does not concentrate and is not precise with his passes. Good passing takes an understanding of your target, the speed of the game (namely defenders), instinct and remembrance of angles and player movement. He has the alleyopp down pat, but he passes to spots like there is no defender or movement. He is not thinking and he is not concentrating. He doesn’t have the sense of the importance of every possession unless he is preparing to shoot. He clearly has the talent to do better. I know he will get a little better, but I am not confident that he will be good enough for this collection of talent.

4. The offense you see, is not the offense Zeke wants. It is a perimeter offense with no, I repeat “no” ball movement. This team can win with ball movement, picks, screens, cuts, etc. On offense they lineup on the perimeter like the Toronto Raptors and when they play inside ball with Curry . . . well, let me talk about him in another numbered section.

5. On offense Curry is not ready yet. He is not where he was at the end of last year. But I like what I see except, when he gets the ball in the post, he is not making his move fast enough. For some reason he is thinking and waiting for the defense to collapse or for his non-cutting teammates to cut. He is trying to read the court and make decisions, but he waits too long and his teammates are not giving him passing angles. Then the defenders become the agressor all lanes ar cut off, he is boxed in and he can’t make the pass or the turn to the hoop comfortably.
The offense is very stagnant when he gets an entry pass and everybody just watches like he’s Michael Jordan.

Otherwise, you should love his effort. He is trying hard on the defensive end, except that Zeke has not yet taken care of telling him how to guard bigs with good outside shots like Kristic and Nowitzki. He can’t defend down low when they’re up high. He can’t make up the distance to stop the pop and shot fro a big at 15? to 18? from the basket. Can’t be done. That feels like a defensive scheme problem.

There is a lot more to consider, but I will save it for much later as I watch these remaining games. I wouldn’t get too high or low until November 2 (maybe November 4 because a loss to Minnesota would be a heartbreaker) when we take our 15 to LeBron’s house. Remember we did win two games before we got spanked by our most hated Division rivals.

Later.

P.S. Safe and fun travels DVJ. You will really be missed. Maybe I’ll post under your screennames during the upcoming games just to keep us in that energy flow.

Happy Birthday JohnQ

Comment by Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York — October 19, 2007 @ 5:28 am

By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Oct 19, 2007 at 5:43 am

Starburyfan
You know we are all thankfull for this Home you have provided us! Knowing how much you
depise the Nets, you still have the grace heads and shoulders above ANY blog host, to provide
another good intro! Keep it coming!

I did not like Zeke’s posture on the bench last night! He seemed at times, a truly emotionaly
hurting man! I 100% agree with not being sold on Fred Jones. The only bright spot I saw last night
was Curry’s anger! That was worth it’s weight in gold! He needs to expand on that anger, and command
the rest of the team to feel the same way! It’s his team and he knows that, so he lead by example!
If more Knicks played with his anger last night……different story!

I know Davonn and I were over emotional after the Celtic game, but we are so tired seeing all this talent
not show up and at least give a MAX effort! Did they? I would say Hell NO! I can’t and won’t defend a lack of effort!
I don’t want to go through another year where we are World beaters one night and play like Shit the next night!
It doesn’t look like we have broke that pattern! We can break that pattern with one trade that won’t gut this team
and you know what and who I’m talking about! ZEKE doesn’t have till next year! WE need a defensive leader! One who leads by example and will
get on his teams ASS when they slack as they have the last two games! I could give a shit who we give up, but we need to pull the trigger
on Ron Artest NOW! He wants to be here NOW! THAT is a fact and not speculation or fantasy! Lets get it done. I believe Zeke has 10
regular season games to keep his job! With Artest he’ll have the season because Artest is out the first 7, and with Artest, who else but Zeke could coach this team????

By Peaceman on Oct 19, 2007 at 5:45 am

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Great Stuff Starbury Fan. 203 posts on the prvevious blog.

For those who don’t know and think that I may have disappeared like in “Without A Trace” or committed Harry Carey, and started rooting for a midwest team, I try not to post unless I can add a little something and/or I feel comfortable drawing some conclusions (I am slower to get there than a few of you). I almost never post during games, but I do enjoy checking in to get a feel for how some folks are feeling, although I always know how DaVonn is feeling. The good thing is that you guys have a lot of it covered, but I offer just a couple of points.

1. My least important point is about Jared Jeffries who is one of the few players out there who looks ready for the season. Yes, Chandler will ultimately have his spot in the rotation, because Chandler brings the dimensions that JJ just can’t: shooting and with range. But I suggest that you look at JJ’s game closer. Last year, bad things happened with great frequency for him. He was fumbling the ball, losing his man, forcing action inside and getting bad calls all the time. Last night, he was hustling; he was in the middle of loose ball scrummages; the ball was bouncing into his hands; he was constantly deep in a defensive crouch; his arms were long and deflective; he brought the ball up far better then Crawford and he looked comfortable. However, all of the above is a minor point because Jared will not be the main reason we win or lose. As Statesman might say, he will be a minor piece of this team or a traded piece from this team.

2. I will try not to draw conclusions on Zeke’s coaching just yet because he is trying to do two things (1) find the right combination to have on the floor most of the time and (2) prepare his players for the season. The decision who to keep was made a long time ago — but I already told you that and if I get in an “I told you so mood” I’ll post it again. That doesn’t mean someone can’t play themselves out of a spot.

3. That brings me to Crawford. All points have been valid. I have constantly had JCraw in the starting lineup because it is clear that Zeke likes his game and scoring ability. For a long time, a lot of you have been suggesting that JCraw come off the bench and that he is a bench player for life. Others have seen his potential and believe he is Kobe-lite, Arenas-Almost, Wade Redux or the Second Coming of John Starks. Well, regardless of offensive potential, Crawford might be the reason Zeke gets fired early in the season.

Crawford does a lot of things wrong but there are two glaring errors that will kill the Knicks. I would not say that Crawford is effortless on defense. He has no defensive one-on-one skills in the half-court set. He clearly has never played defense. For those who don’t, watch him a little more closely. When he mans-up against the speedy guards with quick first steps, Crawford’s body is always out of balance. He plays the ball and not the body, therefore, he is an easy, easy victim for the drive and for a pick (not even a solid pick). Seriously, if you put a yardstick next to him, he would get picked off by it.

This is important because when he loses his man, the entire defense breaks down and everyone has to make decisions which they are not prepared to do. Crawford is constantly waving his hands for help, but he needs to help himself first. Crawford’s best defensive move is anticipating the pass in the lane. You get two of those steals a game which has over 90 possession per team. JCraw is killing Zeke on defense.

Now where JCraw lacks effort and always has, except when throwing alley-opps, is in the passing. He does not concentrate and is not precise with his passes. Good passing takes an understanding of your target, the speed of the game (namely defenders), instinct and remembrance of angles and player movement. He has the alleyopp down pat, but he passes to spots like there is no defender or movement. He is not thinking and he is not concentrating. He doesn’t have the sense of the importance of every possession unless he is preparing to shoot. He clearly has the talent to do better. I know he will get a little better, but I am not confident that he will be good enough for this collection of talent.

4. The offense you see, is not the offense Zeke wants. It is a perimeter offense with no, I repeat “no” ball movement. This team can win with ball movement, picks, screens, cuts, etc. On offense they lineup on the perimeter like the Toronto Raptors and when they play inside ball with Curry . . . well, let me talk about him in another numbered section.

5. On offense Curry is not ready yet. He is not where he was at the end of last year. But I like what I see except, when he gets the ball in the post, he is not making his move fast enough. For some reason he is thinking and waiting for the defense to collapse or for his non-cutting teammates to cut. He is trying to read the court and make decisions, but he waits too long and his teammates are not giving him passing angles. Then the defenders become the agressor all lanes ar cut off, he is boxed in and he can’t make the pass or the turn to the hoop comfortably.
The offense is very stagnant when he gets an entry pass and everybody just watches like he’s Michael Jordan.

Otherwise, you should love his effort. He is trying hard on the defensive end, except that Zeke has not yet taken care of telling him how to guard bigs with good outside shots like Kristic and Nowitzki. He can’t defend down low when they’re up high. He can’t make up the distance to stop the pop and shot fro a big at 15? to 18? from the basket. Can’t be done. That feels like a defensive scheme problem.

There is a lot more to consider, but I will save it for much later as I watch these remaining games. I wouldn’t get too high or low until November 2 (maybe November 4 because a loss to Minnesota would be a heartbreaker) when we take our 15 to LeBron’s house. Remember we did win two games before we got spanked by our most hated Division rivals.

Later.

P.S. Safe and fun travels DVJ. You will really be missed. Maybe I’ll post under your screennames during the upcoming games just to keep us in that energy flow.

Happy Birthday JohnQ

Comment by Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York — October 19, 2007 @ 5:28 am

By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Oct 19, 2007 at 5:49 am

Sorry about that misfire.

By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Oct 19, 2007 at 5:55 am

Defenders..Thanks for the updates and color commentary last night. BARF Great job.

By St_George on Oct 19, 2007 at 8:10 am

Ty all for the birthday wishes.

I’m reposting my comments from the last thread because i always end up tacking on the end. Starburyfan must be a nightowl like me.

I missed the game, but from looking at the boxscore can I ask does this game finally prove that Q is a 2 ???? J Crawford couldnt guard a paper hanger. He is a bench player and always will be as long as he doesn’t make a commitment to playing both sides of the ball. Having JC starting at SG leaves us exposed on D. There must be 2 defensive minded players on the court at all times! With that in mind, Balkman has to start at the 3. I’m going to keep stressing this point until Zeke makes this move. Next game I would love to see him mix it up and play Q at the 2 and Chandler at the 3. He’s not Balkman but he does have energy and heart. SM-6?2? Q-6?6? RB-6?8? ZBO-6?9? AND EC-6?11? Thats defensive presence.

Do ya’ll agree, disagree ???

By JohnQ on Oct 19, 2007 at 9:27 am

Guys, I’ve had enough of Crawford. If he stays with the Knicks, then please move him to the bench. And before everyone starts getting on my case about his awesome offensive arsenal. Get this: At the end of the day, on average, his flaws hurt us more than his strengths help us. An ideal situation would be that he’s traded, but I really don’t think anyone would touch him with his salary.

Then brings us to Q. He’s okay for now in terms of starting at 2-guard. I think he’ll be more effective there than at the 3, because lets face it, he’ll get chewed up because the small forward position is very loaded in the Eastern Conference. You have James, Lewis, Pierce, Prince, Jefferson, etc. He’s too small to go against them defensively. Against 2s, however, he has a chance.

Next we have the 3. Who do we start here? Jeffries? Or Balkman? Balkman is the better player, but I still think we go with Jeffries so we can bring Balkman off the bench and dominate other second stringers. Balkman won’t really have a chance to dominate other first string small forwards.

So this would be the lineup:

PG-Marbury
SG-Q
SF-Jeffries
PF-Randolph
C-Curry

Off the bench:
Nate
Balkman
Lee
Jones

By DNM on Oct 19, 2007 at 9:35 am

Johnny Q

Happy birthday in case I forgot. Yes I do think with Curry and Randolph plus at least starbury there will plenty of offensive presence. Q can provide offense from the perimeter and if used correctly could post up smaller 2’s and he plays better D than J-Chuck. Defenitely need a bigger three don’t know who that will be but they have to have more size to play the big threes in the east.

later

By Orange and Blue on Oct 19, 2007 at 9:37 am

Blogzilla (aka Starburyfan),
Useful post on the Nets game. Very useful. You’re not trying to be a journalist but you cover everyone and everything like when Godzilla appears in the big city, hovering over all the skyscrappers. The other blogs must be getting 20 or 40 hits at best. On that other other thought, be patient..it ain’t cooked yet. You know what’s good

Lives,
As usual, you hit da nail on da head. Write On! as Anti- likes to say.

Defenders,
So many scripts, so little time. Steady as IT goes.

BTW, a little off the b-ball beat but worth mentioning. While you all know me cloaked here as Steady, with a tag line “steady as IT goes”, let me assure you that as it relates to the Yankees, I am not “Steady as JT goes”. I’m steady in appreciating what he did for those years in bringing those chips back up to the hill. It was a great to PR move to propose a performance-based contract–it makes you think twice when you start wanting to experiment or ride a broken horse like Kyle Farnsworth or a Moose (for loyalty reasons) for that matter. Read the AP articles where the Boss’ boys talk about the purpose of the NYY–the team’s singular purpose is to win the chip EVERY YEAR. Now that’s being King of the F’n Hill. That’s my make-up bruhs/sistuhs! Win pure, win clean; win by any mean! Even in trying we win. Just wish that the NYK franchise would get to that stated PURPOSE and live it. I’m also giving you a preview that, should it be decided that IT ain’t cuttin’ it or winning, I will be “steady as the NYK goes” and “get that &#IT outa here”! Ain’t startin’ (yet), just bloggin’.

KFLL

By Steady on Oct 19, 2007 at 9:39 am

Knicks ticket season renewals are doing well but article seemed to suggest that the opposite might or should have happened as a result of the ABS Fiasco.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10192007/sports/knicks/knicks_ticket_sales_steady.htm

Also their is some bitterness in the Bucks campe from their player Charlie bell but in on the other side the rookie Yi appears to progressing at Bucks camp.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=676490

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=676446

Kidd’s epidural and rest seems to be the prescription to Kidds healthy return to the Nets.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10192007/sports/nets/kidd_takes_shot_at_easing_stra.htm

Heat will not have any of their centers available for their upcoming preseason games.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/heat/content/sports/epaper/2007/10/19/a4c_heat_1019.html

Sorry for not doing the hyperlink thing today.

By Orange and Blue on Oct 19, 2007 at 9:50 am

DNM:

I like your starting lineup until, at least Chandler can develop his game; maybe by mid-season he can move to the 3 on either the first or second unit. I think you left Crawford off the 2nd unit.
A trade of course changes everything.
Lets see whose there on Nov. 1st.

LGK

By Post-up Prince on Oct 19, 2007 at 10:04 am

‘Lives’

Great analysis. What I also find disturbing is that Crawford believes that he is the 2nd option. Granted Zach is not shooting well but he gets to the line and needs to be rewarded for his boarding. Zach has to be option 1b. Also when the team is unable to make the entry to Eddy, then Crawford and the guards just jack it, (good shot or not). The team shoots too many threes and does not understand the benefits of ball reversal. Steph’s strengths in the backcourt as a 2, benefits the team. Isiah has to find someone that will run the plays reverse the ball and make sure the big guys get touches. I am not sure if that person is on this team.

The team also needs some Alpha Dawgs. You can’t have Vince “Soft Azz” Carter talking trash to players.

@Steady-Torre is an example that benefited from real free angency w/o a salary cap. Before coming to the Bronx he was below 500, fired by 4 teams including my hometown team, and just a miserable manager. George’s money is what made Joe this great coach.

Peace & Blessings

By STATESMAN on Oct 19, 2007 at 10:11 am

You’re right, Crawford should be in the second unit barring a trade. But I’d prefer to get him out of here. Nothing personal, I think he’s a great guy, but his fall away 3 pointers with 22 seconds on the shot clock are too much for my heart to handle.

By DNM on Oct 19, 2007 at 10:16 am

Read the above comments, and it sounds like we’re in need of a legit pg.

Steph and Nate are pg’s with shooting guard instincts.

Crawford is, well, Crawford.

Jared Jordon is not NBA ready.

We’re coveting Kobe and Artest, with the latter being the viable solution, but what we need is a director.

We need someone to drive this Knick train.

By Bronxboy in Md on Oct 19, 2007 at 10:24 am

“I look at our situation as really no different than football,” Thomas said. “When a guy’s not doing it, they bring in somebody else. Rex Grossman led the Chicago Bears to the Super Bowl last year, and now he’s playing behind Brian Griese. You want to keep getting better, and the best people play, and that’s why you open up the process every year and you want competition. You look at it and you put the best people out there that can win the basketball game.”

From Ken Berger’s latest here

By BARF on Oct 19, 2007 at 10:32 am

“No, I was pretty open-minded last year and I’m pretty open-minded this year,” he said. “I would say the only difference is, you’ve got to reward people for getting better and working harder. Everybody deserves a fair shot and a fair look. This process is about taking the best nine or 10 guys that you can go and win games with.”

There might be nothing more to this than tinkering. Look at George Karl in Denver, giving looks to J.R. Smith, Chucky Atkins, and Yakhouba Diawara at shooting guard, and Avery Johnson in Dallas toying with the idea of starting Jerry Stackhouse over Jason Terry. But giving Marbury a night off certainly is noteworthy, considering the obvious fact that Isiah certainly needs to find more chemistry in a starting five than the group that got run off the court in Boston last night. Stay tuned.

By BARF on Oct 19, 2007 at 10:33 am

Comments from the EC (Eastern Caribbean)

Wait a minute. Isn’t this the same Knock team that had us so excited at about mid season last year. Isn’t this the same team that was bound for the post season? I can’t believe anyone is more frustrated than me at this time but if memory serves. JC was a pretty decent player for us last season and we felt it severely when he went down. Q was also an Alpha Dog calling out whoever, whenever and playing stellar defense. Starbury played well and though he wasn’t shutting folks down (Artest style) he was playing acceptable defense. Defenders, I feel your pain but our heroes are just a little bit out of synch right now, they will get all the cogs moving in the right direction in time. Let’s not throw up the panic flag as yet. That said I must confess if they don’t get it together fast some of us are going to start kicking the dog and pimp slap anyone we see with a JC jersey.
John Q, Happy b’day
Starbury, big ups for the site. Coulnd’t get the game on radio last nite but the crew kept me and others not on the mainland up to the minute with score and commentary. The NBA site was not functional until the third quarter. This site is for true fans and we appreciate it. Keep it up and we will support you all the way.

Blessing to Defenders LGK

EC contingent out

By St_George on Oct 19, 2007 at 10:41 am

Here some information for those defenders who don’t know what the fuck they are watching, which is like most of you.

The facts still are:

David Lee is overrated and is not a starter, though a good role player off the bench.

Crawford still suks defensively. PG duties are not his strength either.

Jeffries is useless.

QRich is fat and slow. I was very disappointed in his play. He talks alot of sh!t but played like garbage last two games. If he doesn’t get his act together his ass should be benched and Chandler should start. By the way Qrich at 2 would be a disaster right now. He is two steps behind game speed at 3 and has no chance of guarding any SGs period.

The best line up from last night was Nate/Crawford with Jones Chandler with EZ. They were stopping both Jefferson and Carter in their tracks and were scoring at will during 16-4 run. Zach showed very quick moves and the fastest shot release I ever saw from a big. Ever. So with all things considered Zach will be the difference maker this season, there is no question that he is head and shoulders better then Lee and certainly then Frye was last season. PF spot is vastly improved with him around.

Jones showed athleticism and solid all around skills he is a keeper. Chandler did same, he is starting material.

I caught a glimpse of the Lakers/Sonics last night and Kobe is just great. He can play this game in his sleep and still dominate. He is worth giving up anybody for.

By rush on Oct 19, 2007 at 11:27 am

modi’s latest bomb

By BARF on Oct 19, 2007 at 11:27 am

Isiah did a great job as a GM this offseason bringing major upgrades at both forward positions and at guard. Zach, Chandler and Jones will improve the Knicks considerably. But all in all we still look no better then a .500 team right now. We have alot of work to do.

By rush on Oct 19, 2007 at 11:43 am

According to the old bag o bones Steve Adameck there could be some thought involved in Eddy Curry’s take no shit policy this early in the preseason.

‘EDDY’S TOUGHNESS: He reacted to some pushing by Jamaal Magloire and other Nets big men by pushing back. Says he plans to do that so he doesn’t get beat up like Shaq.

“I just feel like it’s getting old,” he said. “I’m not going to let nobody disrespect me out there.”

Other than the use of the double-negative, Curry’s point is valid, for big-bodies such as him, Shaq and Yao Ming generally get beat up more because of their size without getting whistles. They also hand it out, too, which could become an issue of Curry’s new no more Mr. Nice Guy attitude starts getting him in foul trouble again.

But Curry says he’s trying to build some respect with the officials in the preseason and with Zach Randolph a far better option behind him than Jerome James (and David Lee behind Zach), he might be able to afford a bit of foul trouble to get his point across.’

http://njmg.typepad.com/knickknacks/2007/10/random-thoughts.html#more

By Orange and Blue on Oct 19, 2007 at 11:47 am

Defenders good AM!

LIVES, you most have been a coach in another life, because your analysis was ON POINT AS USUAL…Your breakdown of JC was the same reason he spent one year at Michigan. HIS GAME IS ONE DIMENSIONAL and HE IS NOT FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND! And, sorrowfully, I don’t believe we can win with him, because his defensive ineptness will stunt the growth of ECity defensively, because he just turns his man loose praying for help…Unless he there is complete metamorphorsis he could be traded in a Jedi Minute…

I also agree with your assessment of JJEFF interms of skill-set, but this roster is so heavy at the three, and he is tradeable because his salary is not to out of proportion, and any NBA team with a shot to win would take him in a heartbeat because of his length and versatilty, plus he is not Star but a Filler (I would love for him to stay, but we need another big and Malik fills that role, plus no one wants his contract).

DVJ, glad to hear you’re headed on on vacation. Travel safely and enjoy your time off. And, PLEASE GET SOME REST. You will be missed, but while you’re gone try WU-SAH breathing techniques because it’s early and yor already in frantic mode. Just worried about your Health Defender…

For months, DVJ, Peaceman, and others have talked about the ARTEST FACTOR, and at one time the ame BIBBY was thrown into the equation. It’s possible fellas, that we might need a LEGITIMATE POINT GUARD verses ANOTHER 2/3 (although I would take them both if available), to orchestrate this year’s version of the KNICKS. One that can distribute the ball to the BIGS at the right times, control tempo and value each possession , maintain FLOOR BALANCE (I have yet to see a game, but based on the description of the Defenders like Barf, there has been none), and can feed the post, and also force his defender to guard him because he is a legitimate 3 point threat, and allow Steph to play the two more often, which creates a mismatch, because most twos can’t check him. IMO, BIBBY is that guard, he is a winner, his pedigree is solid, and he will try to defend (not the best, surely not the worst; he’s damn sure better than JCraw). WE NEED A LEADER & A COACH ON THE FLOOR 9anextension of IT)…Steph’s demeanor disqualifies him, JCraw does not play D (enough said), N8 and Mardy are not ready. The other JJ is headed to Europe so he’s a non-factor.

I’m really interested in your feedback Defenders…If I’m off base, please explain why…I’ll be waiting!

Keep it POPPIN

By cooleyhigh on Oct 19, 2007 at 11:56 am

@Rush

Yer right about Q and Crawford, but Jones sure ain’t the answer. He can’t shoot the ball, and his handle is suspect. At least slow-ass Q can drain the three on occassion.

Hopefully Q’s back is 100% and all he needs is to get his fat ass in shape, cause I doubt Crawford is ever gonna learn to play D. At least Crawford can create his own shot, that’s a key for the 2 spot.

This means we have to play Jeffries and Chandler at the three till Balkman’s healthy. We simply can’t afford to have Q and Crawford on the floor at the same time.

By LGM on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:02 pm

@LGM

Jones is better then you think. Jeffries is a completely useless “dumb ass”, fouling people for 3 and making mistakes all over the floor. Q is a real liability right now and he needs to improve rapidly.

Carter is a hard matchup for Craw same as about half of SGs in the league but we need his scoring. He was out of his element playing PG last night.

By rush on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:12 pm

How many years does Qrich has left? If I was Isiah I would consider getting rid of him at this point.

By rush on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:15 pm

According to Steve Adameck Jerome James might be going under the Knife to address the swelling in his Knee. Sadly no procedure is currently available to reduce the swelling of his gut!

‘Jerome James has four screws loose. Inserted in his left knee during 1999 surgery, they need to come out, he said, because they’re causing the irritation he’s suffered throughout the preseason.

So he said he’s having surgery. Whether it ends his season, or even his career, is uncertain.

Tears weren’t exactly shed by Thomas, who handed Big Snacks a five-year deal that still has three years and $18.6 million left _ a big chunk of which insurance would pick up if James couldn’t play any more.

Right now, I’m being very optimistic and hoping that I do play again real soon,” Big Snacks said. “That’s my motto, push it til it breaks.”

Fill in your own punch line here.’

http://njmg.typepad.com/knickknacks/2007/10/stating-the-obv.html#more

By Orange and Blue on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:21 pm

Rush:
How dare you come in here and insult this established community? Slow down little fellah. There’s a wealth of knowlege here.
This, coming from the same person that said Magic and Bird wouldn’t even be drafted in today’s NBA. What great knowlege you posess.
Please make your point without the drama. You lack credibility to begin with, so just ease in. Don’t jump up like a punk, cause you know what happens. Don’t start none.

Did anyone check out Alan Con’s site lately? It’s slowly reverting back to the pre-Defender days. At this point he’s got to learn a lesson. Welcome back to earth.

By African on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:25 pm

Today you guys sound like you believe the roster has serious flaws and that changes need to be made to it right now.

The floor general that we did not have last night could be Mardy Collins. Mardy did not play at all last night, it would have been a great opportunity, because steph was out, to see what he looks like as a starter. He can run the point, has good size and plays EXCELLENT defense. The thing with mardy is, he’s not 100% because of that secret knee surgery, so I think that is why Isiah chose to bring in Jared Jordan to begin with.

Q isn’t 100% either. These guys just look like they need better conditioning. I don’t know if the ABS trial had anything to do with their ability to practice hard or not, but it did look like the nets and the celtics were faster and better teams than the knicks recently.

Mardy, Steph, Balkman, Randolph and Curry.

I would like to see that starting five out there for a pre-season game to see how it defends. Only problem is Balk is still out. Balk doesn’t have that bad of a jump shot, and mardy hopefully will learn how to shoot. Kidd wasn’t a great shooter when he first came into the league either. I think we had that debate last year on KK or KF.

Everyone seems to think Crawford needs to come off the bench for now. How is he going to play off all that extra weight he put on? He needs to loose some of that, it has messed with his game. Maybe he’ll get used to it, but a large portion of his effectiveness was due to his “feline quickness.” simply physics tells us that more mass requires a greater force to accelerate, therefore it is going to be hard for crawford to be as quick as he was last year.

We have two dominant big men in a time when everyone may be leaning towards small ball. It has a lot to do with how Mr. David Stern sets up the league rules. He changes stuff around almost every single year. Too bad Oden got hurt, because he may have changed it around again if he turned out to be the next big thing. Then again, he plays in Portland.

By Starburyfan on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:25 pm

@ African Do me a favor and don’t mention word ‘credibility’ anywhere in your posts. It doesn’t belong there.

By rush on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:31 pm

Mardy didn’t play last night? I could’ve sworn he got dunked on by VC.

I know what he looks like..I must be trippin

By BARF on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:35 pm

I think right now, David Lee is a better player than Kurt Thomas ever was for us. KT was an excellent help defender, but to be honest he never had hops and I think D Lee is a better natural rebounder than KT. KT can hit the jumper, but I think if D Lee gets 30 minutes a game this year you’ll see him start to stick that jumper as well.

By Starburyfan on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:37 pm

Barf:

http://www.nba.com/games/20071018/NYKNJN/boxscore.html

maybe they round down to zero if you play like 3 seconds? LOL

By Starburyfan on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:38 pm

my point about KT is that he started for the knicks for many years, but D Lee looks like he’ll never be a starter now that Zbo and Curry are there, because you need some defense at the three because of those two guys.

By Starburyfan on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:41 pm

sbfan, yeah i looked at the boxscore after i posted.

i thought it was weird. unfortunately, i didnt record the game so i can’t make sure.

I’m not in the camp that thinks its the end of the world. then again, i have never said we are a “finished product”. we are still a few trades away. i’ve been said that. i will continually say that

By BARF on Oct 19, 2007 at 12:53 pm

Where are the people who said the Knicks would win the division? At this point, I’ll be happy with a 6th, 7th or 8th seed. We’re not finishing in front of Boston or NJ. When when Kidd and co are gone we’ll be better then the Nets.

By ed drossman on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:03 pm

a 40 win season would be an improvement to what we’ve been winning the last few years. Right now I don’t expect the Knicks to beat boston or NJ. But NJ’s players retire and Boston players get older (they are already old) then the Atlantic will be ours.

By ed drossman on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:04 pm

Roaches! Roaches! Roaches!
Starbury, I thought you said you had the exterminator in this week?
Where’s that anti-jam gun when you need it?

By African on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:10 pm

I’m being realistic. Knicks won’t win the Atlantic this year. If they make the playoffs, and win a few, I’ll be happy. That would be a major improvement from years past. African and that idiot KKKandiman (who might be the same person) have been saying they’ll win the division and when one person goes down with an injury you’ll al blame injuries. I’m saying they’re not as good as Boston or NJ. NJ has another year or two as comprised and Boston has the same.

By ed drossman on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:12 pm

No one cares what makes you happy Dross. Just go back to your mom’s basement.

By DNM on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:14 pm

Drossman,

considering the parity in the eastern conference, I don’t think it is mathematically possible for the Knicks to make the 7 or 8 seed IF they come in third in the Atlantic Division. they have to beat at least one of those teams, if not both considering that Toronto won the division last year.

Bottom line? how many teams from the Atlantic are going to make the playoffs? There are only 8 spots, obviously, and three divisions in the east.

By Starburyfan on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:14 pm

I said the Knicks would finish below Boston who I think will win the Atlantic and NJ, who still have Kidd and Co. Their first two loses in the pre season were against Boston and NJ. I just think right now the Nets and Boston are better teams. In the future when Kidd and co are gone and Boston is old, then the Knicks will rule.

By ed drossman on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:15 pm

Roaches! Roaches! Roaches!
Starbury, I thought you said you had the exterminator in this week?
Where’s that anti-jam gun when you need it?

Comment by African — October 19, 2007
African doesn’t have the balls to post his real name… Now he doesn’t even have the balls to post my name.

By ed drossman on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:21 pm

can’t we all just get along, guys?

By Starburyfan on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:25 pm

O & B,

my submission for the punchline is ” I keep pushing it until it breaks” ” my belt that is” That was almost too easy.

By JohnQ on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:40 pm

I still think at the very least a 10 game improvement is possible. I know many have hit the panic button and the same old gloom and doom is taking a foothold on the fan base but the preseason is for experimentation to decide who the starting fie will be who will be the 4-5 players coming off the bench and what roles the players will have this year.

With all that said I agree with DNM and Post Up Prince about the need to get Artest. I’m not saying this out of panic mode but b/c I tend to think that the Knicks are a team deep in soldiers and halfway players who have no War Chief. I saw it when Carter puffed Lee and told him to “stop crying” and when Pierce and KG asserted their will on the game. I don’t care how deep the knicks are or how many players we have that can fill several positions without a guy in the house who will pick up the level of heart and intensity on the team and keep in check the other teams dominant personality/ies then it won’t matter how many soldiers we have. On the point gaurd tip Starburyfan makes a good point and I believe someoneelse has suggested that Mardy should see some time starting at the PG with Marbury at the off guard and a reverse match on defense. I’m gonna wait and see but twice two teams came in with the intent to send a message and had there big dawgs bark at us unchallenged, twice we were in dissaray. I’m hoping these kinks are worked out before the start of the season or early in the season at latest.

By Orange and Blue on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:41 pm

John Q

Yeah he’s a real character that Jerome Snaxx James. He hurts himself in the offseason and pops the screws in his Knees and to compound things he pops the his belt while eating at Big Joes Greasy Heaven. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But seriously if he has that surgery why can’t we keep someone. I’m hoping the surgery puts him out of his misery for good.

By Orange and Blue on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:44 pm

O&B, if it were up to me, I’d cut Jerome and be done with him, but obviously that’s Isiah’s call to make.

By Starburyfan on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:55 pm

Defenders;
Please ignore the Dross. He’s seeking attention, and before you know it, he said the same thing 100 times, and the blog has turned into Knick Knation.
Let him go play with Assola’s and Mark’s balls.

By African on Oct 19, 2007 at 1:58 pm

Cooley,

Never got into the “Fantasy GM”. I agree w/ Steady’s “Let’s not covet OPP”. Once you start that game, you open a pandora box. I am waiting on the let’s trade for Duncan. BTW-Bibby is not the point guard that the Knicks need. He is a scoring point. If you look back at the Kings when they were winning the offense was run through Webber, or Divac at the high post while the other guys cut to get open. Bibby is never one of the top assist guys, he’s more of a scorer. We have enough of those masquerading as point guards..

@Starbury Fan- I’ve said all offseason that I thought Mardy should run the point. I am not sure if he is physically ready at this time. However, you can’t put Mardy and Balkman out there together. Neither has a outside shot and teams would just pack it in on the big two, and play 5 on 3. I have not given up on the season. The glass is half full. I recognize that this is a journey. It appears that most defenders want to get to the destination but they don’t want to take the journey. I still believe 43 wins and playoffs. That is 20 more then 2 years ago.(23Ws, 33Ws 43Ws, this is progress) I believe the Southeast Division will be weaker this year so the Atlantic may get 3 teams in the playoffs. Yes defenders the Knicks will lose games this year, there will be spankings, but Growth & Progress is the key. The Spurs did not become the Spurs overnight. Some of the major disappointment is due to the unrealistic expectations. There was talk of winning the conference.division, going to the finals, winning 57 games. These things don’t happen overnight. Unrealistic expectations will always set you up for failure.

Let’s go Knicks

Peace & Blessings

By STATESMAN on Oct 19, 2007 at 2:04 pm

Dross & Rush,

The Real BBALLERS are still here and we have not waivered, nor have we be shaken or sturred by a few PRESEASON GAMES. Like I told Rush awile back, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE WANNA-BE BBALLERS, but don’t come into the Play Pen of real Dawgs talking smack, making absurd comments, or demanding answers from MEN of Distinction. Rush, I told you once before, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS (same goes for you Dross, the minimum is $1K), I’ll give you my Paypal info and we can make it fly ASAP. Dross, your reputation proceeds, and I must say it is not an impeccable one, but I normally judge a Man based on my own interaction with him, so if you want to step to ME Intellectually, Spiritually, Cosmically, Physically, or Exponentially, I’m your HUCKLEBERRY; I learned a long time ago gents, that there is a difference between Knowledgable folks and Intelligent Folks. Considering you recent posts, it is apparant to me that you do not have the ability to MANIPULATE data, so that excludes you from the intelligence Modual…

You see gents, DEFENDERS debate, wash, dry, hang-up to dry, review all angles, we break down form the top to the botton and click all sides of the NYK debate daily with a rhyme and reason to our PASSIONATE MADNESS…Now knowing Blogzilla as I do, his door is always open to posters with an IQ for BBALL and and a love for the Knicks, so if you’re going to post here, please be clear, we are Men of Distinction, with A QUEEN (we love you Robin) side by side on the throne, and Like Moses we all carry big staffs, and we will KNOCK YOUR BLOCK OFF with intelligence and biting guile.

When you check in next time gents, be mindful there is a LADY present, I’m quite sure you’re not accustomed to that over at KF, so be MINDFUL, WE DEFENDERS KNOW TO TREAT OUR LADIES… You see, the Defender Portfolio is as Diverse as A Goldman Sach’s Mutual Fund, the ROI here is off the charts, because we Take A Balance approach. WE ARE ALL LEADERS HERE PARTNERS…

Check back in when you have something of value to share and leave on the table, because otherwise you two don’t meet the INTELLECT THRESHOLD to invest on this BLOG…

New York Knicks W-52 L-30; Ain’t nothig change CHUMPS but the name, NOT THE FLAVA…

Come back and see US after you do your HOMEWORK and if MOMMY (AH) will let you OUT to play…

Keep it POPPIN DEFENDERS…(sorry I flicked like that DEFENDERS; I do have that TENDENCY; It’s the S. BX in me)

By cooleyhigh on Oct 19, 2007 at 2:08 pm

“he Spurs did not become the Spurs overnight. Some of the major disappointment is due to the unrealistic expectations. ”

By the way, the Spurs aren’t exactly a “model” for how to build a franchise. The were very competitive with DRobinson manning the center spot. DRob went down for the season and they lucked into the lottery where they drafted TimmyD.

That’s not exactly a formula you can tell franchises to follow.

Now, Detroit? That’s a formula.

By BARF on Oct 19, 2007 at 2:37 pm

@ Cooley…

“sorry I flicked like that DEFENDERS; I do have that TENDENCY; It’s the S. BX in me”

No need to apologize homie….I do all i can to keep that TENDENCY under wraps, but some cats make it extremely difficult.

Actually, an occassional flick is what’s need to keep punk-azz antagonists at bay.

When flickin’ is needed, we got all bases covered in here….trust that.

Now let’s resume talkin’ ball….

Like I stated previously, we need somebody to drive the Knicks’ locomotive…..a pure driver, not a driver with asperations of being doctor. Feel me??

By Bronxboy in Md on Oct 19, 2007 at 2:39 pm

I’ve got a feeeeling
I’ve got a feeeeling brothers
I’ve got a feeeling

That Isiah told these boyz to hold back
But when the regular season start
It won’t be no shit like that

I’ve got a feeeeling
I’vvvee gotta feeling brothers
I’ve got a feeling

That the Knicks are poised
to make some noise
And bring all the Defenders
Happiness and Joy.

Seriously fellas this is pre-season and the Knicks look to be playing just to get in game shape and practicing unorthodox things to see if they can make them part of their repitiore. I mean come on people, David Lee was taking 22 foot jumpers last night and we all know that’s not his game. Hell I don’t know if a 15 footer is apart of his game. And since I got started with David Lee let me say this, I think he was the main culprit for last night’s debacle. He was getting prison handled by Magloire and conceded to use his jumper which was for the most part broken. We should of been able to get a bigger lead in the 2nd quarter but Lee was not playing David Lee basketball at that point in the game. Now to my main man jamal crawford. Crawford is by far my favorite player on the NY Knicks and I more then anyone would like for him to succeed, but he dosen’t need to start if his defense continues to be this atrocious.

By boomann on Oct 19, 2007 at 2:47 pm

Barf,

Even before the Spurs drafted Duncan they were winning 50 games. They had Robinson, Sean Elliot and others. The Duncan draft took them over the top, but before he arrived they were building to be a champion. That is a formula also. It requires some luck. Just as Detroit was able to get Rasheed for nothing. That was luck.

Peace & Blessings

By STATESMAN on Oct 19, 2007 at 2:49 pm

BX

Those two are like Dark Clouds hovering in the sky; they need to South and our Brothers and Sisters out down there with the drought…..and remember, that CHILDREN are to seen and nit heard…LOL Elaborate further on your choice of PGfor your HOMEBOY…Cause I dig your vibe

Stateman,

For the record, it is not about stats, or we would be set with Steph at the point…It is about styles of play and the 4.7 lifetime assit numbers does reflect the style of play at Sacramento played, in which the big men were great passers and the O literally ran through them. But, that does not mean MR. Bibby could not run the O required for NYK…Other than Nash and Kidd my firend all of the top POINT GUARDS are scorers first and Dime Dishers later (AI, Arenas,
D Williams, Chris Paul, Parker, Billups, B Davis, TJ Ford, Cassell, (Kobe and Wade and Lebron because generally initiate the O even though they’re all 2’s) Mo Wms, M Jame, JTerry, Heinrich; you see they all PATTERNED they games after OUR COACH IT…A Point Guard with a scoring mentality and his Partner in in crime JOED was the same. Fellas if you can name that GUARD 4 ME, I’ve got an open mind…(please don’t say Skip 2 My Lou…LOL)

Keep it POPPIN!

By cooleyhigh on Oct 19, 2007 at 3:15 pm

Cooleyhigh,
While I was on my journey, I read with much interest the back-n-forth between you and the poster cloaked under the name “rush” at the old place (KF). I stumbled across his/her “pecks” on the screen during my brief time on KK and then saw some more at KF before the exodus. In fact, I thought “rush” was about to stay there at KF. I also recall specifically that the poster cloaked under “bumrush40″ made a point to distinguish himself (HE said so) from “rush”. Talk about originality.

But I digress as my purpose here is to appeal to your godliness as you were created in His image. Your inspirational posts confirm this view for me. Let them go–there’s a bear upstream. And that Paypal account, after sending BARF his coins for the right to post (recall he gave you a discount) I would suggest that you add the amount of your winnings to this week’s offerings or another charity as you most likely do already. That whuppin’ you wuz fenna put on him? The local Boys & Girls Club could use an additional hour from what you probably give already for the kids in da hood. Such actions would be more consistant to the Cooleyhigh cloaked here, whose company I have come to respect and value.

As for the other posters or “im”posters coming here startin’ some, beware. Before you start talkin’ bunk about who sucks what or who ain’t worth whatever, state your credentials. From what basis are you making those points? In what league did you play: Parcs & Rec? CYO? Rucker? NBA? Cosmo league? What team if any have you participated in? At work? At your college or High School? Let us Defenders understand from whom are we hearing this great “JJeffries is a bum” quote. Take an example from JohnQ. He put Steady to a “friendly” challenge and he de-cloaked by telling Steady about a fracture that took him out of the game. Now, at least I know that I’m dealing with a former b-baller who may still get it going with the Sunday warriors at a nearby gym. Cooleyhigh wants you to eat some crow “rush” and challenged your game ’cause you spew only venom “rush”. The veil of hypocrates is the filter on your screen. Maybe you are really Marvin Webster cloaked as “rush”? Yeah, I was a fan then too. There’s a certain maturity level that is a pre-requisite to posting on blogs. Being disagreeable just to be an ABS makes it difficult to have meaningful exchange. Don’t start none, won’t be none. But I ain’t the Blogzilla here–I’m just bloggin’.

KFLL

By Steady on Oct 19, 2007 at 3:37 pm

Defenders,
It just dawned on me that some posters get woodies from the post or attention directed to them. Tman has the infinte wisdom on this point–just don’t humor them or engage. Blogzilla, let their names appear first I tell you! It may not be bad enough yet, you make the call. At least folks could have just skipped over my “mini” here. You da man Starburyfan!

KFLL

By Steady on Oct 19, 2007 at 3:44 pm

MSG says FANS DON’T NEED REPORTERS, WE’LL GIVE YOU THE ENTIRE TRANSCRIPT

By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Oct 19, 2007 at 3:53 pm

LIVES U DA MAN! The link is totally FRESH…

Steady, when you’re right, you’re just RIGHT…Like BX in MD said, I have overcome the Hair Trigger anger/response mechanism and it has taken some time and effort (my Son’s got stories, so do quite a few fellas in FT. Apache, along with Black Spades, Ghetto Bros, and the rest of em) to do so, neverthless I have, and I do know that Peace Like A River so many chirp about in song; so thank you for caring enough to remind me MY PARTNER & DEFENDER…

Barf I owe you tithes and offerings MAN…LOL

Keep it POPPIN!

By cooleyhigh on Oct 19, 2007 at 4:27 pm

Cooley,

Style has a priority over numbers, but numbers don’t lie. I could not have quoted Bibby’s numbers, but I am surprised that they are that low. If you look at the first 3 guys (Wms, Paul, &Parker), they are guys that run a system, but can create for others. They are point guards that can score. Bibby is a scorer that can play the point. There is a difference. Andre Miller would be the ideal point for this system (I know that trade won’t happen). There are still pure points in the league who are rarely showcased on SportsCenter.

Peace & Blessings

By STATESMAN on Oct 19, 2007 at 4:34 pm

states, as usual you got a point. but to that i say, there is no exact formula then. you try to put your team in a position that will best welcome new talent on a periodic basis. To be able to do that, means you have to have a well-defined culture.

which leads me to the point of how idiotic it would be to “FIRE ISIAH”. You get rid of him now, with a roster full of Isiah-Followers, and it will be a disaster. No doubt about it. Just look at what happened to Indiana. And remember, its not like they were a losing squad either. Carlisle took them to the playoffs year after year. Still, that resentment broods and develops like a cancer. Best believe that.

What our young team needs now is stability. Stability leads to comfort, comfort to confidence, confidence to freedom…and freedom…well freedom is what we are all after right?

Freedom is where “the zone” is.

Cooley, tithes? Man, you better shut your hole.

You should know by now I do this cuz I’m happy to. It was a blast to type all that stuff down last night. I’ve been itching to watch bball just as much as anyone here. And plus, I won’t be able to do that for 82 games out of the year so…

hope the newbies don’t think that’s my job or nothing…

I got a chance to do that cuz my girlie just happened not to be home the last two game nights. Got to sit down with the laptop, “rewindable” DVR and watch it live. Otherwise, as is usual, when she sleeps early, I watch the recorded game later. Be it that night or the day after. But again, I’m glad some of ya’ll found enjoyment in it. I know St George is out of the states and is dying for some up to the minute Knick info. I can’t do that…but describing some of the Knick game is the least I could do.

Much respect to ya’ll. Have great weekends!

By BARF on Oct 19, 2007 at 4:59 pm

@ BARF,

Much respect to you as well, bruh. You have a great weekend too…..hopefully you’ll find a little time to kick us a little knowledge.

@ My main man Cooley….

I dig your vibe as well, bruh…

As I stated previously, great minds think AND vibe alike, yanno???

To answer your question on the right pg for the Knicks, no one specifically comes to mind, but I’ll tell you this….we don’t need the high-octane, explosive scoring pg, but someone with a high bball IQ, and very importantly STRONG LEADERSHIP abilities (I was that pg back in the day…I turned the reigns over to my son, but that’s another story).

STATESMAN mentioned Andre Miller…..excellent choice.

If Jared Jordan had a little more athletic ability, he’d probably be an excellent choice. I know that’s what Isiah was trying to ascertain when he brought him in.

Keep in mind fellas, this pg SHOULDN’T be very hard to find.

We need to see what pg’s are being cut from other squads…you’d be surprised what you can recover from the dumpster. You know what they say about one man’s trash………..

@ The DEFENDERS as a whole…..

I really believe that this is the forum where ALL of the great Knick fans, gentlemen, and scholars have assembled.

I feel truly honored AND privileged to post on this venue. I feel like I’m among greatness. I really do.

By bronxboy in Md on Oct 19, 2007 at 6:07 pm

Great compliment BXnMD! I always say you tell on yourself by the company you keep. I mean, look at the way O & B answered that Celtics fan–mature, poised, knowledgeable and courteous. Peaceman said the word repect has been removed from the dictionary. I need to double-check the ones in my library to be sure. Otherwise, I’m throwing them out and going to an antique book store to find a 1st edition Webster. That lack of respect is a symptom of some of the newbies who can’t remember or never bothered to learn how the world got this way. I learned so much by playing with/against older cats back in the day. Let me stop before JohnQ jumps on Steady for being “nostalgic”.

KFLL

By Steady on Oct 19, 2007 at 7:16 pm