Vote Now: Who’s About to Get Cut from the Knicks?
October 16, 2007 – 1:41 pmAs of today, the New York Knicks have 19 players on their roster. As we all know, only 15 players can be kept once the regular season begins in two weeks. Recent online conversations have speculated as to who Isiah will next send packing. No disrespect to Walker Russell, who played well on the Knicks summer team in Vegas, but assuming he gets cut, who will be next? Lets take a look at the likely candidates.
Fred Jones. Isiah hand-picked Jones in Indiana, and Isiah believes Fred can help shore up the team’s historically halfhearted defensive system. Isiah has also recently stated that Jones can play the shooting guard, as well as the small forward position. I’m not sure how anyone who has been listed throughout his career as 6′2″ can play the small forward position, but that is what Isiah is saying at this point.
Jared Jordan. Jordan has to be one of the most unproven and unknown talents on the Knicks. He comes to New York with the reputation of being a fundamental point guard who is good at getting his teammates involved with his passing abilities. Sounds like something the Knicks could use should Stephon Marbury’s minutes be reduced this year for conservation purposes. Nate Robinson’s recent development as a more fundamental guard may severely reduce Jordan’s chances of making the squad.
Allan Houston. With all the recent emphasis on speed and athleticism in the NBA, shooting the ball well has become a lost art. Houston may be 36 years old and arthritic at the the knees, but he may be able to give the Knicks something valuable when you consider how many big men they have near the basket. There are rumors that Houston has a front office position waiting for him if and when his comeback ends.
Jerome James. Jerome came to New York from Seattle with the idea that he would be the starting center for the New York Knicks. Then Eddy Curry arrived unexpectedly after his heart fallout with Chicago. Jerome has been on vacation ever since, but his contract and Isiah’s reluctance to admit his mistake keeps him around the bench, year after year.
Demetris Nichols. Rumored to be one of the best shooters in the draft. During the summer league, Demetris showed an ability to score from all over, as well as good defensive instincts. If Allan Houston and Demetris Nichols are competing for one roster spot, Demetris has youth on his side.
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102 Responses to “Vote Now: Who’s About to Get Cut from the Knicks?”
I am honestly hoping that it is Jerome who gets the axe…but realistically I would expect Houston and Nichols to get cut.
By DNM on Oct 16, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Great overview…mebbe it should be two posts, one on who we think should get cut and one on who we think oughta get cut (regardless of contract)?
By Charles Follymacher on Oct 16, 2007 at 2:06 pm
I was actually hoping that Malik Rose and Jerome james were both cut. We have David Lee, Zach Randolph, Randolph Morris, Eddy Curry, Renaldo Balkman and I believ Chandler will play some pf before it’s all over. What’s the reason for keeping these two untalented and medicore playrers?
By boomann on Oct 16, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Charles, agreed. I thought the same thing. Maybe in a few days I’ll do a follow up–I want to do something where you get to pick the 15 as if you were in Isiah’s shoes, but I’m still trying to figure that one out…
Check back tomorrow guys, I might have something for you after that boston game!
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 2:12 pm
hey defenders,
I was just thumbing through the rumors page and ran across an article saying that Arenas is opting for FA at seasons end. When is Steph going to Italy ? 2 seasons ? hmmmmmmmmmm.
By JohnQ on Oct 16, 2007 at 2:24 pm
I think Isiah is going to shock everybody and cut Rose. I think he’ll send Jordan to Europe and cut Russell. That gives us 16 players.
After that, I don’t know what’s going to happen. As much as I hate to say it, James is needed in case Curry goes down. He’ll actually
make it interesting because I think he’s going to be the first back up big man off the bench this year. Give Curry a breather and have
James in with Zach. This way James won’t be the first option on offense like last year and he can focus on rebounding which he is
actually quite good at. When he doesn’t have to focus on scoring (being 1st option) he is more effective. He is a more than decent
defender in the paint. Only thing I can’t stand is the way he picks up fouls so quick. I’m actually getting used to him being apart
of this team now. All the players love him and Isiah likes him also. Last year he had the funniest moment of the season when he
dribbled up court and went behind the back and all. Classic material !!!
It’s either Houston or Nichols. See if Nichols would’ve went to Europe, we wouldn’t be in this situation. I hear he’s doing well in
practice though so if he earns his spot….God bless him.
Can the Knicks add Houston to the roster later in the year if somebody get’s hurt?
By DaVonn J on Oct 16, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Whoops, I meant oughta get cut vs who’s gonna get cut, but glad you figured out what i meant. Great breakdown DJ, cosigned on alla dat.
By Charles Follymacher on Oct 16, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Bring on Boston
It’s only the preseason, but …
There are people in this building who are extremely curious to see how the Knicks match up against the Boston Celtics tomorrow at TD Banknorth Center.
Add me to the list.
Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph are all ready to line up alongside each other for the first time. They will be squaring off against Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen for the first time.
Will it be a one-sided affair, or the rebirth of a rivalry?
Randolph was back at practice this morining after spending time with his ailing grandmother. She’s apparently improving, but it was important to get home for a quick visit.
He’s all ready to go.
“I think we’re going to be starting,” said Randolph, who averaged 23.6 points and 10.1 rebounds in Portland last season. “It’s going to feel good to get out there with him. I’ve been wanting to play with him. He missed the first two games because of an injury, but he feels pretty good. He’s ready to go. I’m ready to go, so we just can’t wait for the game.”
Curry is all set.
Every time his name comes up, Isiah Thomas launches into a hard sell, and I’m not sure why. He keeps talking up the sudden dominance his centerpiece is showing on the practice court.
Curry is supposed to be overpowering Malik Rose, Jerome James and Randolph Morris.
“He was good yesterday, and even better today,” Thomas said. “He’s just good. I look at him and the way he’s moving, the way he’s driving the ball, the way he’s shooting the ball. He’s driving left. He’s driving right. He’s finishing left hand, right hand. He’s supremely confident. He looks good.”
It’s something else to keep an eye on.
Speaking of James, he was scrimmaging with his teammated when we got in the gym here today. We didn’t see much, though.
Here’s the almost funny exchange with Thomas on that subject:
Q: Was that his first full practice?
IT: “I’m not sure if this was a full one. He sat out a couple of plays.”
Q: Was it the first time he was cleared for contact?
IT: “Yeah. Well, it’s the first time he had contact, but he’s definitely made contact with others.”
We didn’t get to spend much time speaking with the players after practice, they headed off the court in a hurry to get ready for the charter flight up to Boston.
There was no way to get a representative sampling, but Randolph doesn’t have any problem with Boston’s status as frontrunner in the Atlantic Division or Eastern Conference.
“It’s going to be interesting,” Randolph said. “They got a great team. We’ve got a good team, too. … We don’t need to be considered (among the favorites) right now. We’re just going to work our way on up to the top.”
Thomas agreed.
He understands why Boston, New Jersey and Toronto might be ranked ahead of the Knicks at this point.
“All those teams are deserving of the attention they’ve gotten,” he said. “Our job is to go out and earn it and work for it and we’re prepared to do that.”
By boomann on Oct 16, 2007 at 2:54 pm
Phil Jackson’s LSD buddy Charlie Rosen previews the Atlantic Division.
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 2:55 pm
I’ve got an idea fellas. This guy who writes the Knick Knacks blog for the Journal News is fast becoming my favorite Blog spot other then here. He’s getting the updates before Hahn or anybody else and it seems to me he has a very small following. Why not support him because I have yet to see any bias from him, not saying it won’t occur once his spot gets popular from the influx of the Defenders. I think it would be a clever way to get back at Alan because the other guy is the competiton. It’s too bad I don’t even know the other guy’s name.
By boomann on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:01 pm
oh yeah his name is mike doughtery.
By boomann on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:02 pm
boomann
I like doughtery so far. hope you still continue to visit here though homie!
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:04 pm
I’m not jumping on any other reporters band wagons but I will say that Mike D is good. He is up here in westchester.
However, I’m going to tell you know. He is an admitted Chicago Bulls fan and also I think a Red Sox fan. I’m not
saying there is anything wrong with that….I’m just saying lol.
He always gives fair opinions and sometimes he may throw is his shots but it’s never over the edge.
Jerome James is a riot booman.
By DaVonn J on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:09 pm
not sure if syd already posted this, but Isiah has to go back to court in December
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Bulls fan?! At all times, they are the enemy. And the nets too.
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Starburyfan,
I’m not going anywhere. I was just making a suggestion. I came to the party late so I had missed that discussion on Alan but I did read the majority of people’s thoughts on the situation. I saw some people talking about sitting in and others talking about giving him a piece of their mind. I was just coming up with a contigency plan as to get back at Alan without going to his blog to do it. But I’m here for the long run, just thought it sounded good in my mind and wanted to throw it on out there to see if we had any biters. I guess not so it’s looks like it’ll be Knicksdefense fo life.
By boomann on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Booman
I thought about hitting up some other blogs other than the usual suspects–e.g., KK, Bermy’s Post Blog, and KF– but I am reluctant to blow up some other blog site. After the Alan Hahn experience at the Fix, I have less trust for Commercial News Bloggers. However, anywhere a decent story or a good place for mailbag can be had–aside of that whack ass Knicks Fix site– I’m for it. I think a healthy option is to build a decent non personal relationship with the commercial bloggers outside of the mainstream that we know for the purposes of obtaining alternative sources of info via a daily hit or even a mailbag. There is another Knick Knack blog site but it is written by a Steve Adameck. I think either site will do since they both could benefit from hits and some Q&A time.
What do the defenders think.
Starburyfan and Defenders
Did you guys check out my daily news update for today on the previous starburyfan post. There is a story of Kobe having Knee problems which are keeping him from an upcoming preseason game. It might just be exagerration and an excuse by the Kobster but worth reading. Also what was your collective takes on my ops regardin the approach of concentrating on offense during Isiah’s first season as coach rather than on defense? They should be under post #s 140 and 144.
Below are the hyperlinks to both Knick Knack sites either will do I suppose.
http://njmg.typepad.com/knickknacks/2007/10/size-matters.html#more
http://www.lohud.com/blogs/knicks.html
Lives my condolences to you and your family.
Peace and Blessings to all you defenders
By Orange and Blue on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:30 pm
thanks boomann. you da mann. hey, that reporter is pretty good though. i thought he was based out of jersey but DVJ says he’s from upstate. I actually got the news news about Eddy Curry being back from his blog. I think he was ahead of all the other beat writers on breaking that news.
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Can you explain the D-League rules to me? Why can’t the Knicks place Nicholls on the D-League rather than release him?
By Al on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:34 pm
O&B,
when I went to the open practice last year, they only did offensive walk throughs, they did zero defensive drills. Now open practice is a light practice, and I’m sure they played defense in their private practices, but I found it odd that day that none of the drill were for defense.
I think isiah has basically said in public that last year they worked on the offense, this year they’ll work on the defense. hopefully they can put it all together soon and win some games.
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:35 pm
AI
they can place demetris or jared jordan in the d league, but if isiah goes that route than he risks losing dnice to other teams because nba teams share d league players. that’s why isiah wants to send somebody to over europe, he hates to share his talent and would like to reserve rights.
d league is a little screwed up in that respect.
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:38 pm
LIVES,
In my earlier post I was derelict and negligent in not extending my heartfelt condolences to you and yours. My Step- Father’s was called HOME and his funeral was Sunday, so the those hours of bereavement are still fresh in our minds, but in we ALL shall heal.
LIVES I will leave you and yours a little something from the Blessed Word and hopefully in them you and yours can find peace.
“I will ift up mine eye unto the hills from whence cometh my help; my help cometh from the Lord which made heaven and earth.” “Sorrow is fleeting like the evening, because the sun will shine again tomorrow, and Joy cometh in the morning.”
LIVES, OUR prayers are with you and for you. God Bless!
CooleyHigh and Family!
By cooleyhigh on Oct 16, 2007 at 3:58 pm
http://www.knickknacks.com
By Who said that...? on Oct 16, 2007 at 4:06 pm
No way Zeke cuts Nichols! I’ll say it again, No way! And he’s too good to go to Europe!You all know how I feel about Jordan and James!
I have asked this question more than once, is there a Rule against making Alan Houston an Assistant
Coach…..then Activate him as player during the regular season if we have an injury?
That would be the best senario! ANY Defender know the if this is possible? I love Rose, but this is strictly business, Rose,James and Jordan
will not be missed! If something happens to Curry, our smaller men are more competitive than James!
BTW, anyone see that Jason Kidd’s back is starting to give him BIG trouble! I read and article that stated
he left practice to go to a chiropractor! He may have a season like Q did last year, but Kidd’s what 35???
I don’t like to see people hurt, but that is sweet music to my ears! On second thought, it’s ok to see certain
people Hurt! Um …now that I think about it, I do like to see certain people hurt! Hurt real bad! lol
By Peaceman on Oct 16, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Hey Starburyfan,
I like Follymaker’s idea of redoing the question. I guesse it would go like “Which current player will be the next to get cut in order to the roster down to fifteen and which player do you think should get cut in order to reduce the roster down to fifteen players.”
I was also wondering if you could do another poll and maybe the following question could be the topic of the question and some lively debate. “The development of which current Knick player will have a greater impact on the improvement of this years team?” I guesse that or something of that nature might be a good question to ask.
By Orange and Blue on Oct 16, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Peaceman,
Do you recall there was a year when Len “Tree” Rollins did exactly that with the Atlanta Hawks–player/Asst. Coach. In fact, I may be dating myself here but so did Lenny Wilkens while with the Seattle Sonics. I believe that the NYK will keep one over the limit and rotate him on and off the IR list (active/inactive a la Cato). I certainly see Jjordan in Europe to iron out his craft and to develop confidence and pro-mileage.
I’m surprised that the Green didn’t hook up with someone already. San Antonio usually likes to rummage from our scrap heap. Has anyone seen where this kid landed.
For those of you who will be at the game, I need a baller’s assessment of AH20 (now 7) and his fluidity on the court. I can live with a little gimp on his gait but I will not accept limited lift on his rise for the J (or trey). I want to hear about the jab step to create separation. I saw a bit during practice but that tape may have been “spliced” or “altered”. Just bloggin’ here.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 4:47 pm
There was an expectation that Fesenko of the Jazz would spend all or most of this season in the D-League, but he’s already been signed to a guaranteed contract and no other team has access to him. I think even if they send him down to D-league he counts against the 15-man roster (i understand the Jazz like to roll with 14 active anyway).
I’m guessing it’s about whether or not the player’s been signed to a guaranteed contract or not?
By Charles Follymacher on Oct 16, 2007 at 4:48 pm
from the very useful website Boomann and BARF mentioned entitled the big push. please be advised, mike and the mad dog plus isola = knicks bashing. you’ve been warned.
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Steady,
I believe that the 15-man roster eliminated stashing players on the injured reserve. You can carry 15 players w/ 12 activated per game, but there is not additional room for a player on the IR.
Peace & Blessings
By STATESMAN on Oct 16, 2007 at 5:19 pm
DEFENDERS,
Just an update! The “Wacky Tag” is no longer! But you know what, I feel so comfortable right here, and to tell the truth, STARBURYFAN has been a gracious and informative HOST. Plus, the best minds, the best NYK fans, and the best Gents with the BIGGEST NYC HEARTS reside here. We may fuss and fight, nor are WE always right, but we know how to unite, and fight for what is right, and OUR stand will always keep US TIGHT…
Peace, Love Longevity, and Prosperity…
Keep it POPPIN
By cooleyhigh on Oct 16, 2007 at 5:31 pm
cooleyhigh thanks for the update homie.
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 5:38 pm
The Revolution will not be televised
You will not be able to stay home, brother.
You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out.
You will not be able to lose yourself on skag and skip,
Skip out for beer during commercials,
Because the revolution will not be televised.
By boomann on Oct 16, 2007 at 5:52 pm
Defenders, strength in numbers is a beautiful thing. Cooley it took our Shot Calla to bring the arrogance down. Keep it poppin Star.
By bumrush40 on Oct 16, 2007 at 5:57 pm
FSN New England and YES are broadcasting the Celtics and Nets games. If you are an NBA League Pass subscriber, you can catch these games. My TIVO is ready. The Revolution Begins. Be afraid!!!!
By bumrush40 on Oct 16, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Steady
I may be dating myself but you must mean Wayne “Tree” Rollins. Way to go Tree biting off Ainge’s finger like that!
By shamgod on Oct 16, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Shamgod,
Welcome back from your mini hiatus ;-). I see here that the mini revolution you silently inspired has come to a positive end. You instigator you. I also noted a somewhat muted tone in Isola’s article on Jones today. Could this Defender community be having somewhat of an effect on the MSM? Say it is so Shamgod! All I will say is that the situation with that young hack on the Island did not have to get this “serious” or ugly. He’s young and ten years from now, he will be a completely transformed human being (or we should hope so). I pray that I too will be an improvement of my own self.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 6:27 pm
ALAN CON TOOK “WACKY” down??? Why? Did I miss something?
Yo guys fill me in!
By Peaceman on Oct 16, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Statesman,
I know you know what’s good and so do the GMs. Guess what, they stash players on the IR all the time. This plantar fasciatis is the “fanthomest” of the fanthom injuries. Read into IT’s comments. Why must he tell me that JJ’s tendonitis (knee) is a “legit” injury. Does he mean, as opposed to an illegitimate (sp?) injury? That’s why I often suggest these two words for JJ: medical retirement. Just bloggin’.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 6:32 pm
I just posted, for the last time, the following comments on Alan Hahn’s site:
Alan Hahn:
I write to express my perspective that you entirely missed the point about the bloggers feelings regarding the word “Wacky” in the lead banner on your web site. Many of the bloggers who supported your site all summer did so because they thought you represented a more objective perspective than the prevailing sports media reporting about the Knicks’ organization. The fact that you interacted periodically with some of the bloggers and commented about their posts was a welcome dimension of your site.
Many of the active bloggers who joined the “Knix Fix” were former participants on KNation. A number of us initially posted views and perspectives to counter the frequently one-sided, hostile commentary printed in the N.Y. tabloids: Daily News and Post as well as other media sources. I joined these bloggers relatively late last season. Many were long term active posters who expressed intelligent, thoughtful, and knowledgeable insights about professional basketball and especially Knick basketball. Few, if any, members of the group were so blind in their fan loyalty to deny, see or hear criticism of the Knick organization or to recognize some mistakes made by Knick management. There was a recognizable community of bloggers who found camaraderie and conviviality in their cross-banter and postings.
Upon learning about your site, approximately 70 or more active bloggers who formerly found each other on Frank Isola’s “KNation” blog (N.Y. Daily News) mover over to your Knix Fix blog did so with great enthusiasm. All are avid, indeed passionate Knick fans, who ran up the “hits” this summer and looked forward to interacting with you and each other in the forthcoming Knick season. We readily became “Fixers.”
Sadly, all that has now changed by the placement of the ill-considered word “Wacky” in the lead banner to your site. At first, it seemed that you recognized the Fixer’s concerns. You expressed a measure of sensitive recognition of “the village” and explained that the word “Wacky” was not of your choosing, and indicated that the matter would be fixed once a temperamental “technician” could be contacted and gently persuaded. In the interim, we were instructed to “get over it.”
Yet as the days passed, nothing changed. Each day one or more of the “Fixers” drifted over to an alternative web blog site: http://www.knickdefense.com. Many moved over to express what they hoped would be a temporary message of protest, waiting and anticipating that the troublesome word in the “Knix Fix” banner would be soon “fixed.”
As I see it, the word “Wacky” appeared, unfortunately,
at a momentous time in the saga of Knick basketball history. After many years of poor performance and hopeless seasons, the Knicks, as many bloggers believe, are poised to field a winning, playoff bound team. Isiah Thomas has,
from the terrible cast he once inherited, purchased, traded and above all drafted a competitive team on the verge of success; and he has done so despite much media criticism.
Unfortunately, the term “Wacky” appeared just as the Anucha Brown-Sanders “trial/scandal” reached a critical stage—the jury issued a finding of “guilty” against Isiah Thomas, James Dolan and the Knick organization. The New York media wasted little time in vilifying Thomas and Dolan, some calling for David Stern to purge the MSG franchise from top to bottom. This was soon followed by threat made by Al Sharpton to promote a boycott of all MSG games. The N.Y. tabloids, Newsday included, talked about the “boobirds”
flocking to the Garden to boo, hiss and embarrass Isaih at the introduction of the coaches prior to Knick games. Suddenly, the Knick season was about to be undermined irreparably by the press hysteria demanding Zeke and/or Dolan’s head.
The insertion of the prefix “Wacky” before the “World of
Knick Basketball” struck many of us as one more kind of demeaning, spiteful and hurtful term in the context of the hostile press wounds being inflicted upon the Knicks. Those of us who previously sought comfort and solace in your blog site, were now understandably distressed and wanted the noxious term removed.
Then came your blog post of Sunday, October 14, 2007
in which you denounced the group who deserted your site (albeit temporarily for many anticipating a fix to the banner). Here, in my opinion, your hubris and bravado superseded good judgment. You characterized the absentees as “Bullies” and “Alpha Dogs” and declared that the blog site to be “my house” and implied that you would not be intimidated into changing anything. Thus at this time, the banner remains unchanged, –the word “Wacky” prominently displayed to gratify the owner of the house—a permanent stigma demeaning all who visit.
At this point, I for one, among many others, no longer feel comfortable posting at your site. I do not know if you are interested in repairing the damage done or even if matters can be repaired at this time. I for now, along with some 70 or more bloggers, increasing each day, have moved over to http://www.knickdefense .com. There I can find kinship with knowledgeable Knick fans, who post insightful hoop news, engage in agreements and disagreements in lively exchange, and share their thoughts on what promises to be a turnaround Knick season. Readers, I suggest that you check out the site and judge for yourself. I leave you Alan Hahn in your house divided and sadly broken. KFL
By Post-up Prince on Oct 16, 2007 at 6:33 pm
My fellow Defenders,
I’m not sure what to say except that I Love You with all my heart. (Yes, Kissy Kissy, Zeke Style). Congratulations. It is an honor, an absolute honor to fellowship with you and to be a part of this group.
I was about to sit down and write my response to Alan after I caught up on all the wonderful posts including the great lead blog Starburyfan offered and all of the heartfelt condolences from my colleagues. But I was very happy to see post #30 by Cooleyhigh. Each and everyone of you deserves kudos for taking a stand and demanding to be treated properly and respectfully. I guarantee that a multi-pronged attack is what accomplished the result that may lead to a well deserved apology.
A multi-pronged attack means that your leaving the blog, your posts here, and your protests at Knick Fix got a deserved result whether you decide to go back or not. I loved the discussion about tactics and was happy to chime in about why I believed all of you had appropriate approaches to achieving some form of satisfaction. I cheated a little. I really did not want to post at Alan’s blog but I was prepared to spend the entire night writing “The History of the Wacky World of Knick Nation.” However, I really hoped not to waste my time doing that and I decided after considering all of your great posts that I would try an inside shot first and if that did not help, to write Alan off line as I know some poster would and did.
Based on the great comments from you guys I decided to do something I think a couple of others did — early this morning at 10:10am I sent the following e-mail to the editorial board and an old teacher of mine Les Payne. For those of you who know Les Payne, an icon of an African American reporter and a senior editor, you will know the significance. I have taken out my personal information which I had hoped would jog his memory about his impact on my life. My letter follows:
Hello Mr. Payne,
I am certain you will not remember me, but I am ***************, more or less one of your students and followers over the years. I have had many opportunities to sit with you and listen to you about working as a journalist, the role of race in the business and the power of our voices. In fact, you were one of the encouraging reasons and supports, beginning with your visits to. . . . . So it is with that background and connection that I write you about a small problem festering at Newsday that may require your attention.
Unfortunately, one of your young and talented reporters, Alan Hahn, has dispensed his professionalism and incorrectly taken requests by many posters on the sports blog, Knix Fix, personally. The result is a testerone filled conflict that can lead to unintended problems for Mr. Hahn and Newsday.
Specifcally, overnight Newsdays Knick website began to receive huge participation due in no smal part to a large and lively community of posters who were dissatisfied with the Post and Daily News reportage and found Mr. Hahn intelligent and accomodating. Over the summer the number of rgular bloggers increased to over 70 and Mr. Hahn received considerable praise.
Apparently, the hits helped encourage Newsday to make cosmetic changes on the blog including the addition of advertising and the addition of a tagline which referred to the “wacky” world of the Knicks. The wacky reference was an insult to many of the posters for a couple of reasons. The reasons are best expressed on the blog itself, but to sum it up, many of the posters migrated to Newsday to avoid the apparent bias in the media towards the Knicks as a team and the members of the team.” Some viewed the term an extension of the media’s efforts to demonize black athletes and others simply believed the term insulted and demeaned their reason for posting on a fan blog. Consequently, they expressed their views and requested that the term “wacky” be removed.
Unfortunately, Mr. Hahn took the request personally and responded personally advising the posters to “get over it” and subsequently collectively referring to the posters, who felt his response was poor customer service, as “antagonistic bullies,” “wanna be activist” and “alpha dogs.” The comments also took on what, I hope, was an unintended racial consequence when Mr. Hahn likened himself to Sal the white pizza owner in the Spike Lee’s racially charged movie, “Do The Right Thing.” Posing himself as the white victim seemed curious given that it was clear a good portion of the dissatisfied posters were black.
Mr. Hahn has allowed his emotions to overrule his commonsense. Initially, he blamed the “wacky” on the IT guys who offered a dismissive response to the consumers complaints, before he took on his “alpha dog” stance as though he were defending hsi manhood. A simple problem is growing out of control. It was a customer service request that could have easily been handled. No one was challenging his right to write his stories with any words he choosed. The request concerned the introduction to a blog many of you customers were beginning to call home.
Mr. Hahn’s response has no place in a professional setting. Yes, a blog is informal but it is Newsdays new interface with its customer base and should be treated as such. It is quite ironic that Mr. Hahn would melt down amidst challenges during his job as though he were Ron Artest getting a beer thrown at him while at work.
I am writing you, because I know you will fix this problem where others will look in the mirror quizzically attempting to understand the big ado. Please take care of it so that I don’t need to join the other 30 or so posters in writing more letters to the editor and to the advertisers to express our dissatisfaction.
Thank you. Peace and blessings
I have no idea what impact this letter had if any. For all I know it could still be in his e-mail box unopened. But what is that it was not a single effort or tactic alone that received the desired result. I AM SO DAMNED PROUD TO BE A DEFENDER. LATER.
By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Oct 16, 2007 at 6:51 pm
Steady,
I didn’t think my objection to the term “Wacky” would take on a life of its own like it has but I guess it was for the best. I noticed Isola wasn’t his usual page 6 self today, could it be? MSM knows they have to have their stuff together now!
By shamgod on Oct 16, 2007 at 6:51 pm
Post-up Prince I would not have done any better. BRAVO
By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Steady,
I agree in the past the GMs could stash guys on the injured reserve, but last year I believe the increase to 15 players (over 12), on your team also eliminated the injury reserve stash. Please let me know if I am wrong. I thought that Isiah was posturing for a medical retirement w/ James, but James enjoys the life of a baller too much to retire. He does not enjoy playing, he enjoys the bennies (honeys included) w/ being a baller, so I am sure he is balking at medical retirement.
Peace & Blessing
By STATESMAN on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Lives,
You ARE the bear.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Statesman,
Oh! those bennies!!! I was at the All-Star Game in Atlanta, GA and the bennies were out in sartorial splendor. Let’s see how the script plays out. “N.B.A. stands for Nothing But Actors.” Shaquille O’Neal
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:26 pm
I am so glad Alan finally took down “wacky.” You guys did it, all of you. You don’t take no sh*t from nobody, that I can see. I seriously respect that.
Hopefully this war we didn’t start is over now, and we can now talk about how many points we’re going to beat the Celtics by tomorrow. i’m thinking 10, maybe 12?
KG, ZBo, Alen, Allan, Piece, Marbury, Curry returns, a new Crawford, a repaired Q, a rejuvinated D Lee, its going to be good. Unless of course it looks like a pre-season game.
Let’s see how many minutes go these guys who might get cut get. Allan Houston in a knicks jersey for the first time in YEARS. The first game at the Fleet Center for their new trio, the game is all kinds of interesting without it actually being an official game.
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:34 pm
Lives,
I didn’t see that part before, I am very sorry for the loss you suffered lately. My condolences and prayers to you and your family.
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Prince,
Brilliant in #39. As I’m Steady and said that I would not post at that place until the word “wacky” was removed from the banner, I will avoid wearing the veil of hypocrates and submit a post entry there now that the word is removed. I will try to avoid grandstanding or burning the oil fields on my way out :-). You, O&B, and Lives have said all that needs to be said about the matter. My intention is to blog on a non-commercial site or not blog at all. I’m envious of Don’s “Let’s go Knicks” line. Tuzobiraba.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Lives,
Wow…………………..just wow……YOU ARE THE MAN!!
My thoughts are with you.
By D L T Knicks on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:40 pm
How about this lineup at some point in a game
PG - Stephon/Nate
SG - Q
SF - AH20
PF - Zach
C - Curry
Power post-up, penetrating point guard, 3-point specialists on both sides of perimeter. Sounds like Ray Allen/guy in Orlando with a legitimate power game. That would be a nice linuep.
By HarlemBoyinMD on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:43 pm
REPOST–REPOST–REPOST We’re home Defenders and our voices are resolute. Our silence is our force. Here’s the timeline and statement of facts.
It all began with this at the other place:
Posted by Shamgod | October 8, 2007 22:05 Go courtside with news and commentary on the wacky world of the New York Knicks.
Wacky world of the NY Knicks? C’mon what kind of ad is that? Sounds like they are making a joke of the Team
Anyone has the boxscore of tonight’s game?
And then this followed:
Posted by starburyfan | October 8, 2007 22:11 Shamgod
agreed. i was offended when i read it, but it is alan’s blog ultimately, so if that is how he sees it…
Followed subsequently by this:
Posted by BARF | October 8, 2007 22:27 Thats effing usless
I’m not idiot
And then ultimately this:
Posted by Steady | October 8, 2007 22:36 I’M BAAACK–Working on a major post. Will hold off until Newsday shows some respect to the Fix community here and change that “wacky world of New York Knicks” banner and get its overall act together. You all know what’s good–take a stand here KFLers.
KFL
To which others chimed in like this:
Posted by Orange and Blue | October 8, 2007 22:39 Steady
Do you mean a temporary boycott of the fix untill a headline more respectful of the Knicks Team is put up?
And this:
Posted by Orange and Blue | October 8, 2007 22:44 “The Wacky World of the NY Knicks”
As if the Team– never mind the organization– were a bunch of hysterical insane clown possy. Regular Comedians that anyone and everyone can poke fun at and disrespect. While maybe there is some cause for that depiction of Dolan and his careless antics overseeing the organization. The players shouldn’t be treated as clowns or jugglers fresh of a Penn and Teller re-run for mere bread and circus style entertainment. Don’t throw our troops to the lions of sports hyperbole and reaction they deserve respect and by the post I’ve read this summer many have worked hard on their games and on their chemistry to take another step.
Do the players on the team some justice and Change the Name!
ALAN
Show them and us the hard core fans some respect b/c we are the ones who have helped to build your Fame!
In the legal sense, this is the time line of what happened. But I still love Lives’ literary version most.
KFL
Comment by Steady — October 11, 2007 @ 11:29 am
I can forgive but I can’t forget!
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Hey guys, I’m not sure if you have direct tv but it says the game is on channel 620 CSNE. I don’t know if it’ll be blacked out but I set my tivo to record it.
Just keeping the fellas informed.
Lives, your recent pieces have been great.
BARF it’s good to have you back.
Shamgod, welcome from the mini vacation lol..
Steady…keep it coming bro…
Statesman, Peaceman of course and everybody else.
Cooley don’t stop.
This is going to be such a good year.
I can’t forget mr post up and bumrush..
you guys all rock!!!
man I can’t wait..I hope i can see the game tomorrow.
By DaVonn J on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:50 pm
HarlemBoyinMD,
How about my ALL Defensive Knick Team at some time in the game.
Jones
Q
Balkman
Lee
Curry/Zach
Hustle and Muscle with some scoring!!
By D L T Knicks on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Dr. Harlem,
Be careful that JohnQ not call you “nostalgic” for including AH20 with that fluid like water jumper as part of the starting five. I know, you’re just bloggin’. Doing the same bruh because I’ve got AH20 coming off the bench for 15-20 minutes and averaging 15-20 points per (if featured @ spells). He called me that and STILL, I blog.
Defenders, the rotation will not work like hockey or pick-ups at the Y where the players come in waves (1st team, 2nd team) ;-). It will happen according to match-ups. If there’s a point in the game where the matchup favors our side and we can burry a team with bombs every time down the court, then my “realist-full-cup-ass” says that a Houston and Nichols could be those bombers.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 7:57 pm
Lives, I send my condolenses (spell check) to you and your family man.
You guys did it man.
I can’t believe he took that tag down.
Incredible!!!
Man, I hipe this game isn’t blacked out………please lord!!!!
By DaVonn J on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Yeah Steady, I can see AH getting 15-20 easily, playing off the bigs. AH2 wouldn’t have to work so hard as in ‘99 to get his shot off.
DLT,
Yeah, that’s a good one. I got another one. How about this lineup against Phoenix’s second unit?
Nate
Jones
Balkman
Chandler
Lee
What about this lineup against Toronto?
Marbury
Q
Jeffries
Zach/Lee
Curry
And this one against Miami if Curry gets a quick two fouls?
Marbury
Crawford
Balk
Zach
James
So many possibilities!
By HarlemBoyinMD on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Harlem, MD,
You know what’s good. That’s why I call you Dr.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:21 pm
nah Steady, you Lives and African are the real doctors, teaching us pups how to protest effectively! Much respect!
By HarlemBoyinMD on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Now that the ice has been broken, I had to set the record straight on Knicks Fix, this is what I just posted.
>>>
I can’t add anything more to what my homie Post-up Prince has already typed above except to say thank you Alan for finally taking down the “wacky.” It made a lot of us uncomfortable posting anything here because we want to help, not hurt this team. I’m glad to see that word go out the window.
Glad we can get back to blogging about the Knicks. Just a few things I’d like to clear up…
emac2: quite frankly, you’re a johnny come lately. is that the trend now, to try to keep posts as close to two sentences as possible? “get a grip,” “get over it,” please show a little respect for those that came before you on this blog that were offended. that’s what this whole thing was about, respect. you show no respect and you get no respect.
yo trane: “The white house?” C’mon man. I’m just a simple knicks fan with a blog. I’ve had my blog for months, long before this “wacky” fallout just so you know. I don’t see why everybody can’t have a blog to write about how they feel, this literally is the last frontier for the first amendment. Everybody should have the right to publish, not just a select few. I have criticized Isiah numerous times on this blog and on knicks knation, fought people over it, but maybe you skipped over those discussions. I know they’re in the archives so I won’t worry too much about how people interpret the TITLE of my blog.
Respect to the original fixers:
DLT Knicks, Steady, BARF, lives in jersey, davonn, orange and blue, peaceman, don, don ado, JohnQ, trane, db.one, STATESMAN, willis, sunil, HarlemBoyinMD, BronxboyinMD, rush, Kevin Harewood, Dan,Cooleyhigh, Mak, general, DNM, HOZ, Adam L, African, stopmikelupica, SaipanKnickster, Tman, David, Tony, St_George, Henry, The Life, Legend, Post-up Prince, Alan Hahn, Ali G and Ken Berger
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Good Evening
I posted the same(following) at the end of the prior thread so if you read it there
my apologies. I was a now and then type poster at the most recent site you all came from.
I just wanted to say I sincerely commend your stand and the sense of togetherness displayed by you all
Much success here.
I also am looking forward to different Knicks season than those we have had to endure in the recent past, that is
as far as the team is concerned Frye put is so eloquently and accurately when he said “piranhas”
Best wishes Be well
Lives…holing up your family in prayer
Out like a scout on a new route!!!
By SaipanKnickster on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:37 pm
WE
I AM VERY PROUD AND IMPRESSED WITH ALL OF YOU.
I am glad that kissy, kissy ends tonight, so we can fight again. Too much praise brings too much responsibility and pressure. LOL.
Thank you for all the best wishes. I know that as you have been together each and everyone of you have gone through lifes experiences too, I just decided to share that moment because it was on my mind as I posted. I also offer hope for the best and comfort in your daily lives. Let’s have some fun. Hopefully we can stop being “activist” for at least 40 games and deal with the business we are here for. LET’S GO KNICKS
BARF, you should never leave man. Your absence fucks up the vibe. BTW, is African in Watcher mode again. I know I said no more kissy, kissy, but I gotta make an exception to say to you that I recognize major league poetic talent when I see it. Do you have some books in your government name that we could check out? You’ve been slipping stuff in on us for a while. Is it all yours?
Goodbye Alan Houston Goodbye. Jeffries keeps number 20. But seriously, I hope AH has a superb game tomorrow. I favor old guys making comebacks. But AH is no Michael Jordan. Hint. Hint.
I peeked in on Knicks Fix. Great Post again Post-Up Emperor. The blog has turned into sour grapes, but I will post there from time to time depending on my mood. My home is where you are.
I’m out for the night. Thanks for the fellowship.
By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:38 pm
re #60
Lives that’s holding up your fam………….
and by the fish comment I maent the misguided media and there hidden agendas
By SaipanKnickster on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:40 pm
sorry for all of the typos long day peace
Starburyfan good job!
By SaipanKnickster on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:47 pm
hey guys,
Kenyon Martin is back, running and dunking like his old self. Denver is going to be interesting.
By HarlemBoyinMD on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Starburyfan and Steady. I’ve got your back at Knicks Fix. You post. I post. Well, not immediately, but at some point. Smile.
By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:50 pm
Nuggets also has that kid Von Wafer, he’s the guy that was lighting it up on us in Summer leagues, taking 3’s at halfcourt with ease. Denver is going to make noise.
By HarlemBoyinMD on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Like somebody said earlier, I’m hoping curry isn’t coming back too early with the shoulder thing.
I know Curry’s injury was the lab***, but that rotator cuff injury keeps people out for a long time, don’t know if he’s at risk…
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:55 pm
Tip o the hat to LINY. Well done, sir.
Anyone been keeping track of Q’s shootin percentages so far? Is he relible?
By Charles Follymacher on Oct 16, 2007 at 8:56 pm
charles, somebody on the knicks hit three 3pt shots during the maccabi game, not sure if it was Q, but I know Jamal hit at least two 3’s.
In reference to the boston game, somebody mentioned league pass as a way to watch pre-season games, but it is my understanding that the only channel league pass will get you in the pre-season is the NBATV channel, can anyone confirm?
By Starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Big ups to all the Defenders
Happy to be around so much knowledge
Ready to knock down the C’s 2morrow.
Go NY,Go NY,Go……………
By D L T Knicks on Oct 16, 2007 at 9:17 pm
Big ups to all the Defenders
Happy to be around so much knowledge
Ready to knock down the C’s 2morrow.
Go NY
By D L T Knicks on Oct 16, 2007 at 9:18 pm
Lives:
Thanks for the high praise. Coming from you, I am quite touched.
Your own letter to the Newsday editor was outstanding, and I believe, contributed to Hahn finally removing the “Wacky” term. Alas, too
late perhaps to matter much, but maybe an olive branch?
At any rate, I am sorry for the personal loss in your family and
wish you the my best in sympathy.
By Post-up Prince on Oct 16, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Yo! Lives and Cooley.
Great posts! I just got the news about The Fix. Strength in numbers. I think we should demand an apology from Hahn before we go back, then never go back.
That turd, trying to demean the very village that lifted him through the storm.
I say we stay at our house, and let him have his house by himself and die of loneliness. I feel warm and cozy here Starbury.
Like someone said before, once the season starts, there would be no more info that we would not have access to. Hahn’s insight does nothing for me. I would much prefer Lives’ breakdown of the East.
Lives, sorry to hear about the death in the family. You know you’ve got pillars here to support you. You’re ours, and we’re yours.
That game tomorrow should be on the FSN New England channel. You know how much they love the Celtics up there. I doubt they wouldn’t televise it.
So Hanh now has his tail between his legs! I love it! He’s the dog. Better yet, the bitch!
By African on Oct 16, 2007 at 9:29 pm
The media doesn’t show the Knicks support so why should we show the media support?
Starburyfan, I think your right about the NBA Pass but if you have the sports package (channels 601-699) you can get that cities sports channels.
It says the game is on channel 620 tomorrow at 7:30PM. I turned to the channel and it is the sports channel for New England. It comes in clear as day now.
Lets see if it’s blacked out tomorrow for the game. I’m hoping it’s not.
By DaVonn J on Oct 16, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Starburyfan
I believe Curry will be fine. With the mistakes of last year, the medical staff
will be over reacting to to an ” Acute otitus media” which simply means an ear infection!
Good job guys! I’m proud to be a part of the Best Knick Blog in the Nation!
The best part of this season, is we are going to be butting heads about
what Knick made the best plays in all the wins we’ll have this year!
BARF
I want to hear an audio of you singing Marvin Gaye’s “Who’s gonna save the Childern”
I can see the emotion on your face as you hit the high notes!!! lol
Seriously, Marvin is my all time favorite! Just not that song!
By Peaceman on Oct 16, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Sorry; Post-up I meant you and Lives with the posts.
By African on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Starburyfan,
Love what you’ve done with the place. Polls, Pictures what’s next video? Very impressive Mon!
By shamgod on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:08 pm
MSG,NY saying reports of Kobe going to Dallas—and Josh Howard LA bound. Kobe cleared out locker as well. Don’t know how factual.
No report if DaVonn would switch sides and become a Dallas fan—-if trade would happen. (a little jokey joke)
Lives, I’m sorry for you your family lost—I wish you all the best!
Lives, your writing as always on the money. I wish you were one of the Knicks beat writers —then no need for me to be Anti.
Steady,Post-Prince—DEEP DEEP DEEP————-WRITE ON
By Anti-NYSportsNews on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:13 pm
If Rose makes it and Houston doesn’t. That will be one move I am against Isiah on.
I just don’t see why Rose should be on this team.
Like I said, I respect him for everything he’s done but he just doesn’t fit here.
Plus he tries to do things he can’t. Sometimes it’s like he wants to do a reverse 360 dunk
but he only gets 2 inches off the ground so it results in a turnover. Pretty funny stuff
but we don’t need that this year. This year…..it’s win or die.
By DaVonn J on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:14 pm
LOL Davonn
Your on the money with that last post!
By Peaceman on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Yo, I’m watching the Dallas vs. Sac game and Artest is shutting Stackhouse down. Man, I wish he was in a Knicks uniform.
I know he will be next year but I wish it was now.
By DaVonn J on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:44 pm
OMG,
Please show some games so we can stop all the patting each other on the back already. LOL.
Deffinitely getting too kissy kissy here w/ no games.
Steady,
You gonna beat that H20 drum all day man ? He’s not making the club ! James is staying for better or for worse and Jones is IT’s boy. He’s not cutting Malik because he’s the only battle tested vet they have. Where does that leave Houston ? On the outside looking in.
By JohnQ on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Atlanta, Denver and Chicago had good games tonight.
The talent has really improved on a lot of teams.
Can’t wait to see Zach and Curry tomorrow.
We have to get production from Jeffries and/or James. There are a lot of good forwards out there.
By HarlemBoyinMD on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:58 pm
JohnQ,
Houston is Dolan’s boy. Houston is on the team if he can run the floor and stay in front of his man. I doubt Thomas wanted him on the team; I’m sure he knows AH20 is the next front office executive for the Knicks.
By HarlemBoyinMD on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:01 pm
JohnQ,
I read your fixation in addressing me regarding the AH20 revival. You’ll note that Harlem MD penciled him for major burn as a starter in #50 above. Still, be that as it may, I accept your invitation to be non-kissy-kissy. Tell you what, if AH20 makes the team, you will type 20 lines (no cut/paste) and post the following here at knickdefenders.com: Steady as AH7 goes. My cup runneth over because AH7 is a bomber on my side. What’s good?
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:12 pm
So Harlem, you think after Dolan gave Zeke the keys to the Garden, he is going to overule Zeke on the matter? Don’t get me wrong, its totally possible but he been so “hands off” so far I can’t see him undermining the man he put in charge.
I think giving Houston this chance is a feel good PR move at best. Another story other than ABS ( A BullShitter) whose picture still adorns the daily news basketball section of the web (Lupica the idiot keeps it there the LB loving SOB ! ) Basically its a diversion from the bad press that has been outshining our warriors in orange and blue. Nothing more, nothing less.
If he hits a few shots tomorrow night are you guys going to be waxxing poetic over it for days and days ? The man can still shoot. There is zero doubt about that, but having his body endure the rigors of an 82 game season ? No way man.
By JohnQ on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Steady,
I’ll do that as long as you promise to type ” I need to wipe the 99 outta my eyes” 20 times when he gets cut.
By JohnQ on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:20 pm
African, Steady, Starburyfan, Anti-NY-Sports News: thanks for the positive feedback. Your posts are always on point and meaninful to
“the village.” Many of my thoughts in the post came your prior
commentaries. I will now stop the mutual admiration stuff–with
apologies to John Q.
Harlem-Bovin MD: I love the first lineup of a Lee, Balkman, Chandler,
Nate and Jones===a small team with great energy and ability to
play an up tempo/pressure defense and fast break.
I will offer some feedback tomorrow on the matter of which 15
players Isiah will likely keep from the 19 currently on the roster as
well as some options that may be available.
KFL
By Post-up Prince on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:26 pm
Beck previews tomorrow’s pre-season meeting in Boston.
(not the musician)
By starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:36 pm
that didn’t work
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/17/sports/basketball/17knicks.html?ref=basketball
By starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:37 pm
“Jerome James went through a full-contact practice Tuesday for the first time this month.” You gotta be kidding me!!
Jerome is practicing now, AH7 playing, boston’s big three (they need a less generic nickname, they should have a contest like golden state did in the 90’s), E-ZBo, the new crawford, the improved D Lee, the repaired Q, the selfless stephon…
too good not to be on tv. i don’t care if it is preseason, it’s going to be interesting.
By starburyfan on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:44 pm
JohnQ,
Gotcha. Just curious though. Have you ever played on a team or do you currently participate on one–at work, in sports, your local gym? While in college? Parks and Rec? Any where? I do recall you basing your comments dismissing AH7 on the fact that you are 36 but I’d like to know of my chances of winning this little wager before cuts are made. I may need to rest my fingers in order to deliver on your requested prize.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:49 pm
A compund fracture of the leg ended my bball when i was in JH. I still play at the park in the summer from time to time.
By JohnQ on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:59 pm
JohnQ,
Good to know. Still, stay true to your passions.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 17, 2007 at 12:14 am
I would’ve been in the NBA but I was a special ed kid and the league has rules about that
By DaVonn J on Oct 17, 2007 at 12:21 am
kobe hasn’t practiced with the team in three days.
john hollinger reports that the knicks should try to land him.
duh
http://www.nysun.com/article/64680
yo dvj? think there is any way to get kobe?
I don’t know why he’d want to go to chi if he is trying to avoid all the MJ comparisons.
By Starburyfan on Oct 17, 2007 at 1:58 am
yo defenders, kobe has cleaned out his locker. the word is dallas has a deal sending D. Harris, J. howard and draft picks to the lakers for the mamba. If this happens, the lakers should be shot in public by a firing squad. Somebody tell me this is not going to happen.
By bumrush40 on Oct 17, 2007 at 2:13 am
It’s Game Day. Hip Hip Hooray.
Join the END KISSY KISSY CAMPAIGN and get NICE ‘N NASTY, LGK
DVJ with the smiley face. I want one. Did you just put it in the text or use hmtl stuff?
Time to work on that Atlantic Division Preview. It will appear here first, before the season begins.
Keep It Poppin’
By Lives In New Jersey, Loves New York on Oct 17, 2007 at 4:55 am
Seems like I missed alot yesterday afternoon and onward. I want to congradulate all the people on this defenders website for sticking to their principles and helping produce change over at our former Knicks Fix site. To that end I believe it took the efforts of the village with special efforts by LNJLNY and Post up Prince amongst others. Kissy Kissy lovey do!
Anyhow I’ve heard alot of banter about Kobe that he cleaned up his lockerroom and that he has alrady or is nearly on his way out to Dallas. Well I decided to check out some links regarding the matter and it seems that currently Kobe’s locker is less than full, and that although the Laker’s Phil Jackson also said that Kobe isn’t going anywherer Jackson is reconsidering whether he’ll resign with the team. Although Jackson claims health is a concern for him due to his hip problems, Jackson also seems to suggest that how the team plays and shows on the court will have much to do with whether he stays– read between the lines and you’ll see that Jackson is concerned of not having a superstar to make him look good as a coach. Also despite his disclaimer that Kobe is going nowhere, Jackson conceded that one can’t tell at this time. Just check out the links below.
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/phil-jackson-los-1892894-angeles-lakers
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers17oct17,1,2859766.story?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=8&cset=true
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-heisler17oct17,1,6510249.column?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba-lakers&ctrack=7&cset=true
BARF:
Don’t know if you pondered the thought of Kobe heading to Golden State? If you did I think the following article seems to discount that possibility.
http://www.mercurynews.com/timkawakami
Lastly as it regards the Knicks, I wonder if the supposed ill will between Buss and Kobe may result in Buss oking a trade of Kobe to the Knicks as a way of “punishing” him? What Buss don’t know could definitely help us land Kobe, and we more than have enought talent to trade for him and be very competitive with Kobe.
Allright I’ll be back with more NBA news when I can.
By Orange and Blue on Oct 17, 2007 at 8:54 am
Lives,
bumrush40,
4-real. Then I’d really be all conspiracy, all the time.
KFL
By Steady on Oct 17, 2007 at 8:56 am
Lives,
, 
, 
We don’t want that last one though.
Starburyfan has this site hooked up with the bells–whistles may cost extra. If you type the colon or semi-colon like you do to make type smileys, they will appear in your post thusly:
KFL
By Steady on Oct 17, 2007 at 11:44 am
Is that a new way? I want to improve my potential aspect I have a nice fresh joke for you people) What do you call a drunk who works in an upholstery shop? A recovering alcoholic.
By MifeFrertytof on Oct 29, 2008 at 2:47 pm